This looks like a focus on manifesting money and success.
I give it 2 thumbs up and a 
1 loop per program per listening day, 3 times a week max. More rest days might be better. Some people are getting results with listening once or twice a week.
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No. Just got a lot going on personally and financially Iām dealing with.
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Thank you, Iāve placed the order.
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Iām currently listening every single day, 2 loops of the sub, with only the occasional rest day, and itās working very well for me.
Up to now Iāve always followed the listening instructions, and would get immediate effects, but those effects would fade and I wouldnāt see any of the deeper benefits of the subs. It was getting to the point I was thinking of giving up on subs, because they offered me no lasting benefit, just a temporary perception shift. And yes, I tried listening less with more rest days, and that did nothing for me. I donāt seem to get any bloom from extended rest days either.
Thatās one reason I started this experimental journal, to see how other listening patterns worked for me. It turns out, with Emperor at least, I can listen to it daily with no recon, and just an increasing sense of happiness, positivity and sense of building inner power. I can feel my mental state and perception of the world shifting gradually.
For whatever reason the recommended listening pattern is just not optimal for me, with Emperor anyway. And I have no intention of going back to it.
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Iāll continue as is until the custom arrives, likely Friday, then take 3 days rest and start with 1 loop daily of the custom, then adjust up or down as needed.
At this point Iām not actually sure why I bother with cycles anymore. If I recall correctly, on reason for them was to experience the bloom. And I donāt get bloom. The extra structure from cycles doesnāt seem beneficial for me that I can tell.
So Iāll just start the custom the following day instead. 1 loop per day, as stated.
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Iām not trying to be a dick, but this is exactly what I was talking about the other day. Thereās no tolerance for experimentation at all, or acceptance that weāre individuals and respond differently. I find it very frustrating.
The main reason for all of the listening guidelines is to avoid overwhelm, overly intense reconciliation, and processing gridlock.
I think itās always about optimizing this ratio:
Ease and speed of processing and execution :: Exposure-related and Processing-related stress
The idea is to get the left side as high as possible while keeping the right side as low as possible.
The ālistening cycles with subsequent processing daysā structure is intended to enable clearing-up of āprocessing backlogā. This may or may not be accompanied by a bloom effect. But itās more about clearing the pathways for continued smooth processing.
Iāve tried my own departures from the listening guidelines here or there in the past. Usually, after (like you) first observing them for a long-enough time.
My biggest experiment was pre-ZP back with Qv2. The guidelines with Qv2 were ā1 loop every other dayā. Although I heard a lot of talk on the forum about how overwhelming Qv2 tracks were, I, personally, had not really experienced any challenging reconciliation symptoms up to that point, and I wanted to get a sense of where my limits might be.
So, I played my two Qv2 customs twice a day for 21 days. From May 12, 2021 to June 1, 2021. I quietly mentioned it somewhere, but didnāt make a big deal out of it.
The result of my 3 week experiment was that I still did not get some of the specific recon symptoms that Iād read about from others, but I did feel a kind of āpressuredā quality that became quite noticeable. By the time, I ended the experiment, it felt like stopping was a very good idea.
I realized that when it comes to subs, 1) I can deal with a lot, but 2) that does not necessarily mean everything is going well. I may just have the subliminals equivalent of a āhigh discomfort thresholdā.
Now Iām more interested in the other side of the ratio. How can I process subliminals in the smoothest, easiest, and most effective ways possible?
One possibility, as youāre exploring, may be āBy increasing duration and frequency of exposureā; but Iām still actively thinking about other factors.
Iām thinking that this is not, primarily, a mechanical stimulus. Itās an informational one. So, while direct mechanical factors should play some role in filtering the stimuli (e.g., volume, speed, duration), Iām thinking that factors related to interpretation and receptivity would probably play more significant roles.
Seems to me that when my mind is faced with the scripts, an assessment will be made of the scriptsā
Attractiveness
Convincingness
Appeal
Compatibility
Degree of Difficulty/Complexity
and so on.
A question I have is:
What kinds of factors would maximize my mindās perception of how attractive, convincing, appealing, and compatible the script is, and would minimize the perceived difficulty of the script?
This is not keeping me up at night really, but itās still the direction of questioning that I find most compelling.
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Iāve been following the recommended pattern since December when the ZP preview started. Sometimes I tried less, sometimes I tried more, but 95% of the time I followed the pattern. And it has not been going well. At which point do I give up and try something different? Or just give up and move on? I used to enjoy running SC subs, and now I donāt. At which point do I ask āwhy am I wasting my time, and money, with this?ā
So those are my two options - change or leave. Iāve been here 3.5 years, and overall itās been awesome, so I donāt want to leave without at least trying something different.
I donāt intend on going back to the recommended pattern, because finally I AM enjoying it again, and will probably push things a lot further just to see what happens - so if thatās unpalatable to this forum I can move my journal offline. That would be a shame, I still think such things have value to others, but Iād rather do that than leave altogether.
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Right.
Did you think I was attempting to convince you to return to the listening guidelines? If so, I was not being clear.
Iām saying that whatever experimentation you are doing, one of the goals probably needs to be to locate the optimal ratio for you between rate of processing and stress of processing.
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Ran 2 loops of Emperor this morning.
For the last hour Iāve been experiencing this incredible sense of strength and power, like I can do or have anything my will dictates. Thereās also a palpable flow of energy up my spine and into my head, which is leaving me somewhat light-headed, so I need to consciously circulate it.
One odd thing Iāve noticed the last couple of days is my sense of smell has become far more sensitive, Iām not sure where thatās coming from. My other senses are unchanged.
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Coming down now, feeling more grounded. That was a fucking trip.
I have to go into the office tomorrow so itās probably a good time to take a rest day.
Feeling really happy and relaxed now. Just sitting here with a smile on my face.
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Slept less than usual last night but woke up feeling more refreshed than normal and with greater energy. Been in a great mood all day.
Whatever happened yesterday has left me feeling pretty amazing. An underlying tension that I didnāt even realize was there has disappeared and I feel really relaxed and happy and energized. Itās like somebody flicked a light switch, everything seems brighter and more positive.
It feels like that experience yesterday may have cleared out some emotional or energetic blockages.
Thereās still this sense that Iām the master of my reality, though nowhere near as intense as yesterday. Everything feels vaguely malleable, not fixed and unchangeable.
Taking a rest day today, will go back to 2 loops daily from tomorrow.
Ran 2x Spartan this morning.
Vivid dreams last night, where I was back living in London at my old house, with friends moving in with me and renovating the place. Some renovations I accepted, some I rejected completely. Obvious symbolism there.
While Iām waiting for my Emperor custom Iāve been thinking about the longer term. In total I have 4 subs I want to run over the next year:
Emperor/RICH custom
Spartan/Survival Instinct custom
Alchemist ST4/Sage Immortal/Mindās Eye custom
EOG
I want to work through EOG before I consider putting it into a custom, at which point it might just replace RICH in another Emperor custom. Not sure yet. I donāt really have major money hang-ups, I earn an excellent salary + bonus from a major investment bank that I work for, but I canāt get past thinking of myself as being an employee - thatās what Iād like EOG to work on. Emperor likely works on it too, but Iām thinking EOG is even better for that.
So thatās 4 subs, consisting of 8 majors. The question is how to approach that. Running all 4 is probably not a good idea - such a diffuse set of goals represented by all 8 majors in that set would take a long time to become visible in my life.
My first thought is to start with the EMP/RICH custom solo for 2-3 weeks, then introduce EOG1 and stick with that stack for a while, maybe 1-3 months depending on how it feels. At that point I can consider introducing a third, not sure which one yet.
A potential wild card - HERO is supposedly a combo of Spartan and Survival Instinct and more, and no doubt a lot better balanced than my custom. When that comes out it might just replace the custom.
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Iāve noticed that when I run 1 loop per day the effects are pretty immediate, but when I run 2 loops thereās this pause of several hours, and a feeling almost like a contraction or perhaps like a long inhale, before the effects hit suddenly. Although the effects are more potent, I think I prefer the immediacy and consistency when I do 1 loop per day. The effects are just always there.
Either way I had planned on going back to 1 loop for the custom, but itās good to have an understanding of the effect when I run 2 loops. And thereās no denying Sunday was pretty awesome, so Iāll still throw in the occasional double loop to see what happens, but for the most part I think Iāll stick to a single loop per day.
have you tried doing 2 loops per day, but space them apart? Like say 12 hours apartā¦to see if you get the immediacy from each to last throughout the dya.
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Yeah I did it a couple of times, it was closer in effect to a single loop than 2 loops, but I havenāt tried it consistently so might do that pattern until the custom comes in, most likely some time Friday.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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