Best subliminal/stack to deal with helicopter parents

Run a single loop and see how it goes for you. If you still feel good throw in another loop the following day.

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@Grimm1390 whilst true that our parents shape our beliefs, as an adult you now get to choose what to believe.

“I don’t believe I can survive by myself in the big bad world” - how does that feel?

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Part of me feels like I can’t survive on my own or make my own decisions. Hopefully overtime that changes

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Opinion:
Focus on the actions first.

Your thoughts and feelings don’t have to be the boss of you. They’re like wind inside of you. It does help a lot when they’re blowing in the direction that you want to go; but even if they’re pushing against you, you can still walk forward. You don’t have to change every doubt before you can start taking action.

Be compassionate and patient with yourself. It’s understandable that it may take a while (and take a bit of behavioral evidence) before narratives, beliefs, and perceptions that have been with you for years begin to change.

Just remember this quote:

Sometimes very confident and authoritative voices are just dead wrong.

The Commander supercharger. I’m not saying it’s an overnight cure. But it’s a good reminder that you can do this shit.

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Thanks for your kind words and everyone else’s on here. I really appreciate it. I unfortunately had a severe relapse and binge session on porn this week . I took steps this week to make this a priority daily. I wrote a list out why I’m doing nofap, what are my triggers, what are my tools to use for recovery, what tools to use in the heat of a intense moment where I wanna fap. I started attending smart recovery meetings and saa meetings. I’m no stranger to 12 step groups I used it for my alcohol issues and porn addiction/ codependency issues in the past for a period. I prefer smart recovery even though it’s more geared towards alcohol. I like going to Saa men’s meetings so i can be around more people who have this issue like me. I also started reading a book called rational recovery. I had it for a few years. I’m taking notes. It talks about the mid brain aka beast brain and neo cortex which is us. The midbrain all it wants his pleasure and all it cares about is the short term and doesn’t care about your goals. The neo cortex is the you that thinks things through for instance “ should I edge “ “ maybe I’ll just watch some porn but don’t fap “ etc
It’s a good book for battling addiction outside the parts where it’s preachy and talks about how AA doesn’t work for like 50 percent of the book.
The saying “ as soon as I come I come to my senses “ when we are in the Midst of a relapse and are gonna do the act are primal brain has overridden our pre frontal cortex. Once we orgasm our pre frontal cortex takes back control and this is where we wonder why did I even just fap. your brain literally does come back to its senses from when the primal brain just took over.
I have a issue with sexual repression which tends to pour out into porn and fapping. I need to learn to channel this energy in healthy ways. I’m just guessing one side benefit of not fapping and watching porn is building up my sexual energy. This energy can be channeled for me to get independence. Like since I binged I can care less about staying home now I’m okay with it and I’m upset I feel that way. I
Like raphael has said on here from time to time nofap is a stacking module, it’s a very powerful one. i need to learn to harness this energy. For instance primal is to much for me I can’t handle it. All I wanna do is hump a girl, pillow or fap. This is not good I need to learn to become sexually mature and handle these urges in healthy ways not like a little kid.
read a comment on reddit about way of the superior man talking about harnessing sexual energy and making love to the world. This concept sounds very interesting I’ll take a look into it

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I would say EmperorQ would be good for you and I will tell you why. I have heard from a friend that EmperorQ is a sub which can maybe activate your dark side. Not the serial killer kind of dark side. But the dark side that goes after what it wants and dooesn’t gives a f about anything. You might think that you need confidence,self esteem and such positive things. But what you need is to know how you and your emotions are being manipulated to serve your parents desires. Your parents don’t give a damn about your dreams, desires or feelings. They just care about how well you can serve them, because there was a time ,you were a kid and they ingrained that in you, that your purpose is to keep your masters(parents) happy. Because the religion says so and . Only if your parents are happy, will you find happiness and heaven. I could go on , but tbh you need help. I would say you need subs which help you reinforce boundaries that you don’t allow anyone to cross. Subs like EmperorQ, GMQ, Ascension and Regeneration. Also look into trauma therapy.

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I had to point this out because it triggered me.
It should be the other way around. Because this is not logically sound. How do you owe your children everything when you, the parent, have birthed them?
That you owe your parents nothing phrase made me fucking cringe.
Fuck that radio host. CUNT!

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Both perspectives can be argued logically. Personal values are not arrived at by logic. Personal values are about the priorities that someone has subjectively chosen (or more commonly absorbed from others). They’re usually guided more by past experiences and reactions of temperament than by logic.

Imagine that someone were to come to your home this evening and give you a 94 million dollar stealth fighter jet. They just show up and your house and say ‘This is yours. It’s a gift. …Oh, and also it’s your responsibiility to keep it working in optimal condition. …Oh, and also, we expect you to use this stealth fighter to keep the region safe and protect it from any possible attacks.’

You’d probably think that this person who gave you the 94 million dollar jet ‘owed’ you: 1) an explanation as to why this ‘gift’ was being thrust upon you, 2) training in how to maintain and fly the thing without hurting yourself and someone else, 3) a dedicated staff and team of people who can make sure that everything is handled properly, since you’ve likely never managed a ‘gift’ like this before.

One reason that you might feel you were owed this is that you never asked for a stealth fighter jet. It’s a very valuable gift, but it’s also something of a burden and protecting the region is a heavy responsibility. You never planned or prepared for this. Instead, for some reason, this person/people somehow decided you’re the right person for the job. You’d probably feel a bit put upon, to say the least.

That’s the logic behind a statement like

"You owe your parents nothing and your children everything"

The idea of that statement is that the onus of care is on the giver of a thing. As most adolescents will say or think at one point or another, “I didn’t ask to be born!!!”

But then, there’s the other point of view. Raising a child entails so much sacrifice, so much giving, so much hard work, and through most of that, the child is returning very little tangible value to the people who are sacrificing so much for them. Therefore, when the child is finally able to produce some value, some of it ‘by rights’ should be offered to the people who have possibly given so much.

Both positions can be argued quite logically.

Meh. Personally, I don’t really agree with either point of view. But that’s not because they’re illogical. It’s because I don’t want to live with people who are only doing things for me because they feel that they ‘owe’ me. To me, that sounds more like a company or a courtroom than a desirable relationship. But those are just my own subjective values and preferences.

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thats a harsh way to word it dont u think

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Regarding the children owing parents something, think of it this way. When parents birthed you, they did it for the sole purpose of continuing their line. They didn’t love you before you were born. Sure, they might have treated you well and given you what you wanted, but it wasn’t really solely for your benefit. It benefited them to reproduce. Parents can’t live forever so children are a piece of their immortality.

And a child has the choice to reciprocate but I see too many parents using children as their retirement plan. Instead of saving up for themselves and understanding that children are independent beings with their own plans and desires, they hold on to them as if parents owned them with the money they spent on them before. The parent-child relationship then becomes more of a master-slave relationship.

As a child though, all that you can do is give them some part of your money when you can (after taking care of yourself), visiting them once in a while and being good to them (all of this if they are good to you). But all this isn’t an “owing” thing. It’s more like you love each other.

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I think the last part is exceptionally true and valuable.

Sadly, I am facing a different family situation right now. My sister is going a different route and literally leaving the family because of her boyfriend who is intellectually stupid without any former eduction as he shows her that life can be so simple without any goals in life. She broke up with the whole family and accuses our parents of being too harsh and bad parents as an excuse to live her lifestyle which just makes me sick knowing what lovely parents they have been and how much they cared about us. She is literally mentally killing all of us including her, her boyfriend and her future …

You don’t owe them anything, but don’t be like my sister, show some damn respect because this is what they deserve. Your parents should be and most probably are the ones that only want the best for you.

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Is your sister a Pisces or Scorpio? February and May for Pisces, October and November for Scorpio.

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How old is your sister ? I can’t help but read what you wrote and think of rollo. Rollo has said when a women finds a " alpha" " bad boy" " high status " man any one of these 3 or can be all 3 in one man, women will denounce family, friends, religion etc to be with these men. They will adopt the sports teams of this man, adopt his thinking and beliefs etc. Whatever gets in the way of being with the alpha even if that alpha is a bad guy to be with women are emotional creatures, you cant use logic to tell them why they shouldnt be with this guy.
He wrote a article on this topic and i completely forgot what it was called.
Sorry to hear about the whole situation though

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@Hermit Yes Scorpio

He really isn’t anything of these 3. He is the most beta low status good boy I ever met (for his age). Maybe he is good in bed, I can’t comment on that though. He is actually not the biggest problem because it is more a manifestation from her. She now successfully created her own bubble where everyone around her is not so smart so that she feels like the greatest.
I don’t want to go in much more detail but the family of her boyfriend seems to also be involved, possibly being a cult…

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Oh okay sorry to hear ill just say one more thing and leave it at that. In my family and friends of family etc since i was a kid there are stories of someone doing voodoo to get what they want from a particular person. Its common in my culture i know its not the same as a cult but i definitely understand where your coming from

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Yeah, it is just scary how influential we are… You don’t need to be particularly smart, gifted, or educated to hypnotize somebody, manipulated them, or do other voodoo things I don’t even know about. But as I said, it really is a manifestation from her own…

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Just wait it out, it’s a process many Scorpio’s are going through. At the end, everything will be well. For Scorpio’s are mutable water signs and tend to use emotions over logic, especially when it comes down to sexual relationships, Scorpio’s are rulers of the Sacral Chakra…

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@Hermit - that’s interesting. Does Leo have any connection with the third eye Chakra? I used to be always interested in the third eye and used to watch loads of documentaries about it.

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Leo’s most active and powerful chakra is the Crown. Now you see we have all signs present within us, it’s just a matter of how many energy is being poured through in your Natal Chart. Your Sun Sign, Ascendant, Moon Sign are the most obvious energies to notice in a persons character.

For the situation with Friday’s sister above, it is different, because the snapshot of the skies currently give a tendency for persons with a Sun Sign in Scorpio and Pisces to experience lessons in sexual relationships. So that’s really just a reflection of the above into the below. Macrocosm onto the microcosm.

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@Hermit - Well am a Sun sign Leo, Moon Sign Libra and Ascendent Scorpio.

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