I will right more at this at length
Yeah I am at 120k.
Khan in my case was really powerful for where I was. I was growing so fast and was facing many challenges with all the opportunities coming. I manifested lots of opportunities that I seized and I was not ready for most of them. I ran Khan at the pace of 1 stage per 1-2 month,
I was (I wish I was but yeah
) Trump in his first election. Rose quickly to the top and somehow unprepared to lots of challenges. Yet very bold, confident and polarising.
At some point I had to tone down my Khan side as you canāt be too bold or overly confident if you lack some basics in a highly competitive field. I added EWTP but it was not as fast acting as the PCC version so I went back to an Ascension + True Sell combo to go back to basics. It went really well and allowed me to take off again. I have now a better position, I work for my state and above me is the state governor.
Khan is great for these top dog roles but I would not run it again for this goal until I master the basics. Maybe after a year in my new position. I would still recommend it to people who need that sexual drive and who donāt mind getting bruised along the way. Khan is scary powerful sometimes like a rail of coke. But after a while I get tired of always be fighting alone, I am now building a team of powerful allies. My reaction to Khan may be because of my listening pattern too I donāt know.
There was also a chain of events fortunate and unfortunate that led me to that better position, closer to be my ideal position of a CEO with the governor on hot dial on my phone, banging my secretary before going to the country club. In fact I am already there but I still have deep work to to deal with stress and PR stunts. Or maybe just accept that these positions have these inherently.
To be fair I know I can in a few job moves go to 200k. But outside of my path I would not know how or where to start. Around me people make that kind of money through deals, physical businesses, political mandates, advisory. I feel growing this side for me is more of HOM area.
I have my take on this aside from running subs, and Iām happy to share if youāre curious.
Shoot 
Wow, itās a while since I posed, Iāll have to get back to this thread.
I have a date tonight with someone I had a date with before she moved out of town. We have crazy chemistry for years but the timing has not been right. Sheās always been into me, I ran ROTNW, Khan Stage 2, and Wanted Black last time we meet and chemistry was off the charts, but she wants to be exclusive, at least for a time, last time we saw eachother. Itās been almost a year since I saw here and we only have a bit of time.
Iām having trouble deciding to try Wanted Dream Boy or Wanted Black before I see her later. They both have their advantages. We wont be able to get too physical today given the ātwin villany of logistics and timingā but it would be great for things to get as intimate, fun, memorable as possible.
I would likely run a little primal romance with Wanted Black if I went htat route
@Niles after running WDB whats your sense here? For a one off date.
I think based on the girl and what she was looking for, WDB is definitely the way to go but she will probably start to push for things to be more serious. PR and WDB would be a good combo.
Havenāt ran it however around any other girls, manly in my LTR so not 100% how it would go on a date yet, but based on the objectives and expierience thus far, probably very well. I think itāll be interesting to see how they respond differently compared to while using Khan/WB etc.
My only concern is will throw off what worked so well before, the high status sexual dynamic was great. But it is likely a better fit.
How WDB going on your endā¦in relationship and socially/around other woman?
It still feels very sexual, stacking with GLM instead of Khan mainly because Iāve been running GLM for 4 cycles and want to keep progress going.
I notice the results mainly in my social and day-day interactions most, havenāt spent a ton of time with my girlfriend recently so donāt have much to report
Could not decide so did
30 seconds Wanted Black
65 seconds Wanted Dream Boy
20 Seconds Primal Romance
40 Seconds Khan Stage 2
and 1 minute ROTNW

This is WAY over stacked but still worked awesome
Date went incredibly well, I could see where there was some dissonance/conflict at moments from overstacking but it was not really an issue.
Things flowed, she seemed gobsmacked smitted with me, did most of the talking. We touched a ton, laughed, it had that raunchy Wanted Black vibe, where we talkd dirty stuff while laughing about it, with lots of magical moments as well.
Primal Romance was kind of the odd man out, Wanted Dream Boy creates depth. Still, it stays in the reverie of the moment, Primal Romance is like truth serum, where women start putting it all out there, taking about life stuff at large, this created a bit of dissonace in the date, and then at the end Primal Romance pursuit came out strongly. I told her that I want to date her when sheās back in town. I found myself semi-courageous and saying things I normally wouldnāt, and semi-concerned it was too looking for a response. She wrote me shortly after on how good a time she had, and wants to try to see me again while she is in town.
Also technically she is dating someone else exept, they had a fight and sheās going to break up with him. So she says. I realized after I walked away, that in my freedom and limitless sense of possibility, the stakes are probably way higher for her with everything. I also learned- I should probably be a little more straightforward about what I want. She kept commenting on how being around me made her more sane, and how touching me grounded her with my masculine energy, we were joking about it, but she definitely meant it as well.
Iād say WB and WDB definitely mix in a certain way, but have their strengths in being separate. Primal Romance has a little bit too much of a ātherapeuticā output, which kind of works really well, but kind of not with the combo.
Iāve experienced this on dates with women I know, like we were in a relationship, and they were just laying it out there/venting. It could be different with a new woman. I never get this with Khan or anything in Wanted series solo. It is a sign of trust and intimacy but a different dyanmic.
Initially, I thought no WB next time, but remembering the end of our last date, things got more physical, this time partially cause we were rushed and less intoxicated, perhaps, but it was less like- we could āfxxā now and more like classic courtship. Iād say its more a function of the situation and potentiall slightly off calibration at the end of the date- then WDB vs. Wanted Black.
Primal Romance is like truth serum, where women start putting it all out there, taking about life stuff at large
How much have you run PR solo? Iāve experienced this effect a bit on WDB too.
Amazed at the awareness you have!
To me it seems she was not primarily responding to āyouā, but she was responding to who she is becoming in your presence.
I will add the days after I do these big experiements, my sales drop like crazy
and I do deal with moderate to strong recon. Itās not a big deal, and I get through it quickly.
But the diversification outside my wealth drivers and/or the recon can affect work performance. So Iām smart with how I time it , and only do it when my months are on track.
PR completely solo very little
with Khan and Wanted Black some experience but not extensive.
Last year closed out epically well
My final stack since September consisted of
- ASBR/ HOM custom
- True Sell/RICH custom
- GLM/ ROW Custom
I did about 1 total loop of each a week, broken up intuitively. Often no rest days with lower listening amounts, and rest days when I ran 5 or more minutes of a title.
I added some Khan stage 2 or custom variants, Wanted (Wanted custom) Variants, and Spartan: Beast Unleashed customs for 10-60 seconds at certain times. Was fairly consistent with 10-30 seconds pre workout Spartan: The Beast Unleashed as a fourth sub. Not recommended, but worked well for me.
This is a rainmaker journal, so going over financial metrics first.
- In 2025 I did $100K more in my sales job than in 2024 - I was by far the top salesperson overall
- My financial health outside of income took a big jump. I saved another $100K, and separately from that invested $100K across various IRAs, crypto, 401K, and Private Equity investments.
- Despite performing better, I worked less, 40-50 hours rather than 60-80. I took more time off, two-week-long Island vacation/retreats, as well as a week away with family. And during the months I took time off, I still did better at work
- I feel like Iāve evolved to a place of peace, not satisfaction around $. I feel the survival concerns or 'not making it like a distant dream. I donāt have much pride in saying they couldnāt come back, but as of now, I feel the universe is inherently abundant, and I am destined to flow with money and resources; itās just a matter of being able to open the nozzle wider and wider. This is distinct from income, as even when I was making hundreds of thousands, I felt strong concern for everything failing or sliding back last year. I feel the ceiling is a new floor, and Iām ready to build a 1 million dollar business while doing my current work full time by 2027.
Non Financial
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I did 112 gym visits out of 365 days and one home workout session a week, so the most Iāve done in years. Consistent with that. My strength went up enormously.
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I donāt PR, but I estimate my bench is at 330lb. I was finishing the year repping 225 for 20. When I started, I could eke out maybe 225 1-3 times. At one point on Spartan-Beast, I was getting my vertical back and was feeling amazing. I had a minor quad tear (my fault, with bad warm-up, overdoing things but fully recovered quickly), Iāve been feeling a bit inhibited with explosive movements since then. My box squat was repping out 5x5 275, which is not very good generally for my weight - (I used to do over 550 lbs full deep squat at 180 lb). I could likely do 315 for 5x5 but I am very careful with squats while I bulletproof my spine. I also trapped bar deadlifted 315 for 10 and 225 regular for 10 with ease. My nagging hand injuries are significantly better.
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I had about 1 social/family event at least once a week, so much more time in connection, socializing, and having fun.
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While my friendship, work, and community ties evolved. I still spent the year mostly solo, with minimal dating and romance. A couple of awesome moments and experiences, but not the norm. This year Iām intending/creating have way more partners and meaningful romantic relationships
I have my take on this aside from running subs, and Iām happy to share if youāre curious
Hey, Iām curious about it, so if you could share it, Iād greatly appreciate it!
I will get to this at some point and tag you.
Donāt want to detrail the other trhead. Are you keeping Khan out in favor of GLM?
Stoked- seems like the perfectly aligned sales career sub right now. Having a lot of momentum with GLM, EOG 1, BRO however.
Would you reccomend long term EOG 1 inner work before transitioning to C&C? Seemed to be the strategy people like @Jouissance used in the past for best results, but curious if the new tech somewhat negates the need for deep healing.
Context: Plateaued sales rep making to look significant career leaps. (B2B/SaaS), more political hierarchy/promotion based then skill and performance based.
Long term: leverage high salary/commission position through progressing at current company to build start up Capitol and get into entrepreneurship. Financial discipline/basics are also things I need to continue to work on.
Do you know what field in entrepreneurship you want to be in?
Also with C&C and EOG have you considered just sales to for personal income but building startup capital through raising/partnerships?
If your just supporting solopreneurship thatās one thing but start up capital can be in the tunes of hundreds of thousands to millions
There is a general capp even for the highest performance until the company grows or changes structures, some sales roles can be 1 million plus in Saas I suppose though, and you could fund something in a couple years of strong sales success.
Temporarily, plan is to go to back to Khan, but I am taking a 2-6 month ālock inā season where I plan to not go out, less socializing, no drinking/dating, and GLM has specific scripting for impulsive control as well as enjoying isolation, without the intensity of Emperor Black.
Iām not certain on entrepreneurship path, but short term 3 years I want to start some type of boring service based business (labor, etc), and just go clean up in a less competitive market with everything Iāve learned from sales, marketing, A.I. much less barrier to entry and capitol requirements then going to compete in markets with tech giants.
Long term passion endeavor is to end up in the entertainment industry, putting on live events, maybe adventure trips, music festivals, maybe own a bar/restraunt. Probably out not hyper profitable compared to other industries, but thatās where the passion is.
As far as the start up amount, I think most labor/service based businesses you can probably launch successful with tools/marketing costs for $100K. Could save that pretty easily with high level tech sales and I have a relatively low cost of living.
I like the idea of running something labor based, because at a high level the business mostly revolves around lining up jobs (sales/marketing) and maintaing the right crew and consistent workers, but outside of that your collecting the cash up front for the jobs so if your doing it all right itās not super Capitol intensive.
Yes, you can absolutely use the rebuild function. HoM isnāt even in the system anymore. We replaced the HoM module with C&C in our system. Only need to rebuild entirely if you want something new.
thanks was not sure because it didnāt mention product upgrades for eligibility just changes in mask and build strength
Just ordered but think I was undercharged- since I added solace masked. So it should have been $80 marked down not $50 just a heads up.
- Order number:2031091
- Date:January 19, 2026
- Total:$37.50
So ran one minute yesterday of Crown and Capital, and will give my initial thoughts below. (I took a mini washout from my typical stack, then ran C&C with True Sell/RICH custom.)
Later yesterday evening, I ran another 3 minutes and today I ran another minute with my True Sell custom
I will caveat- Iāve removed GLM and ASBR from my stack, which are EXCELLENT. For sales, my results could also be influenced by their removal. Next week I will add both back in to test with C&C, unless my performance drops, in which case Iāll add HOM/ASBR to get some traction before testing C&C
1st day
On a general Front
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Definitely felt some altitude in my thinking, from stack planning to longer-term plans, itās like my immediate vision and thought process was expanded.
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To speak a little abstractly, itās not a lone wolf, but an individualized vibe than HOM. HOM had a warmth and ease to it, this has edge, itās still soft, this feels related but strategic in every interaction, the patience is WAY less on this than HOM. HOM leads with relational and strategy second.This feel like everything/one has a place or it doesnāt
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Found a resource in my Audible library that is incredible for financial development and exactly what I needed
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Starting to question in a good way where I put my time, effort, and energy as it relates to both capital and general return on investment.
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Starting to see what is between me and the next level of financial success from a very clean, clear way.
On a sales Front
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This feels 100x more like Emperor than HOM ever did
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2 high-quality leads out of the blue reached back out after months of being out of touch, one lead to a small sale , and the other will 99% lead to a bigger sale later today. (edit still in the pipeline for later this week) Closing is common, but a pending reach-out is rare. 1 in a week is a high manifestation sign, let alone 2 in a day
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My sales style needs heavy recalibrating on this. I did 30 seconds then ran my true sell custom, and then switched back to 30 seconds of C&C. Post True Sell/RICH custom, my sales felt completely off, forgetting words, judging myself. Feeling zero influence capacity, like all leads were dead ends, super frustrated. I thought it was recon and it may have been. But after running another 30 seconds of C&C, things shifted quite a bit. (The adaptability scripting may have cause recon in my other custom @SaintSovereign is this possible?)
My rapport started to play out a lot better, and I started to dance more meaningfully in convo. I could feel a recalibration to questioning rather than telling, but it didnāt feel quite connected or natural yet. This does lack warmth compared to HOM, it feels more removed and strategic- which is a double-edged sword. My sales on HOM have this ability to have people want to fill the gap and step forward -to meet the rapport like a friend explaining themselves, this ability and super power was not present today. Maybe it will kick in later-I really hope so- itās so key to inside sales, or maybe I was less engaged because people felt less qualified. From reading the copy, I somewhat expected this, less focus on general relationships and social mastery and more focused on specalized relationships-it seems more filtering and aligning than influential and expansive like HOM.
This could still raise my overall performance in a month, but I still need a bit of that āalchemistā quality in turning āworseā but workable leads into gold.
The presenting information without persuasion is key in many fields; mine is definitely not one of them (or at least not entirely). My sale is service-based, relational, and highly niche. The more matter of fact, I am without people emotionally related to people, the worst it can be in many cases. To move leads where alignment is not already basically there requires high levels of ease, charisma, rapport, persuasion, humanizing and people feeling like not needy but really there for them. I found my patience very low for this etc. Presenting information on outcomes, such as results, counterintuitively wasnāt working (edit this continued to evolve); itās not a responsible proposition. In fact, I found myself shifting gears to this, then having to go back to the power of process and its benefits to move the needle with people. Maybe I was imagining it, but I started to see in real time how I could shift to aligning people with process and support as the outcome they were ultimately looking for, rather than specific guaranteed results.
- Iām pretty intuitive and donāt feel l the same level of present relationship connection as after running HOM. Is there anything akin to a transcendental connection in here? Iām curious. Anything for family? My brother who Iāve been developing a much better relationships felt like the last priority on my list. Prior to adding HOM this last year, while I cared about people, I felt super distant and removed. I felt in a similar space again.
Also noting after a few -day washout from HOM/ASBR custom, the indomitable rapid fire presence and āon-nessā were definitely missing. And so was the sense of relatedness I have in the background. I still salavaged a great day, but the resilience and performance aspect of ASBR in sales is astoundingly strong I noticed.
(@SaintSovereign -note that for EOG: True Sell- whatever is in ASBR takes sales to the next level. True sell is also amazing itās just lacking a lot, but the core essence of it, influence, charisma, presentation, verbal mastery need to translate over to the new version- not just filtering sales or aligning - that is a great sales ability-and one of the most important parts -but as the base of sales in a bigger context on top of influencing people, and āconvincing anyone of anythingā (ethically) is is even better)
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Definite shift- or awareness from Iām going to close everyone and donāt care if I donāt (even though I still qualify and filter, that feels like the driving impetus) to - most people are not fits, and itās a waste of time, so let me find the right people. This could still improve overall performance, but given itās an inside sales job, the people scheduled to me definitely make things less fun.
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I find a definite conflict in the verbal fluidity of ASBR and True Sell with the quite magnitude of this sub. This is likely reconciliation rather than non-compatibility, but Iām curious to see how theyād resolve. Partially,it could be the energy expenditure calibration. I find my own wind being pulled out when I start riffing with my āmusicā. Itās the kind of thing that can turn people around and give them real thought, shifting things down the line. Everything in me was screaming -this is a waste when I was impulsive about that today.
Not the easy transition from HOM, at least in my sales role, that I expected (well before I read the copy), definitely has that artisan feel of a black title. Super intense and focused, re-orienting everything in an off-balance way for the betterment of a bigger goal. Also definitely excited for the adaptation and to see how powerful this sub can be in my current role. Looking to double my income again this year, while I build passive/ entrepreneurial income structures
Iām a definite state big goals and live into it guy, so also curious to see how this will support that with scripting that has actions speak before words.
Closed at 2 sales despite a rough day, not necessarily because of C&C but things still flowed overall, and Iād say 1 of the sales was possibly strongly influence by the new addition.
Day 2
General front
- Feel an incredible pull towards action, action, action action, - energy and wanting to use time well
- This is not fully comptability with my sales just yet, and will discuss below.
- Strong sense of clarity and indominability but lower emotional regulation than Iāve had on my stack. I find my bandwidth for dealing with people very low, agian very Emperor-y not sure if my response or the scripting really diverged in the re-imagining. For certain fields, executives, finance professionals, this would be so on point but itās just a very large departure from the fine calibration Iāve had for my role.
Sales wise -
Part 1 of the day
- Could see C&C posing more intelligently in sales. Felt a patient and flow with things.
- Feeling a bit locked out of access to my best sales self, but calm and very solid still. Much more patience and less urgency to get people across the finish line. This is also a double-edged sword. Lovingly push and discernment is best here.
- The dissonance between verbal fluidity and high levels of speaking and quite a magnitude of saying concisely what was needed was resolved.
I ran my custom for 10 seconds after- and thatās when things went wonky- This souds bad, but I still can see how resolving moving through this could lead to better results. (This reminds me of Khan for business in recon, haha, which is exactly what I wanted! And I can see the potential of it, but I need to get through the transition/ readjustment period.
After just 10 seconds of my custom today everything shifted
- Mindset shot, calls feel like a waste of time, no sense or belief in my ability or even the ability to close people. The worst of all the experiences Iāve had coming to the surface.
- No closes today, thatā rare for me. The landscape is not great this month but still plenty of success this week
- 1 great lead who, at the last minute, pulled out of moving into intensive due diligence.
- If felt everything that can go wrong did. People talking themselves out of the calls or on the calls, being too blunt when sensitivity was required. Normally I push people away to a degree as part of a powerful strategy, this felt like people were immovable or running lol.
- Everything I say in key moments felt like it had no power or influence, its dead in the water. That Iām at a speed that people canāt match etc. or that people just were so indifferent, disengaged. I couldnāt shake people out of it.
- Iām taking things personally in a way I rarely feel, not like upset personally, but feels like Iām stuck and failure in a weird way I almost never feel.
I donāt think this is lack of ASBR and GLM, since itās only been not evena week.I think Iām in recon on Crown & Capital or the adaptation script triggers recon from other subs. Or just recon. Not sure Iām going to take a few days off after this evening and then will likely need to switch back to my tried and true stack.
just to recalibrate and get performance back on track and reintroduce C&C
Will share more tonight so far my intution about C&C throug reading the copy and then in my experience is this is this is no longer a good fit for my sales role. Super dissapointing after waiting a year for this. Its actually almost anti-sales both in the mindset thats best for my role, and in my ability to communciate with everyone.
Its even like there is a āblockā on people who would normally move forward moving forward. Iām doing my best to discern between intution and recon and when hearing clarity on certain things it seem I am in minor recon adn my intuition is right.
It has huge value for larger life purposes but may not to useable in my current role. Further testing to determine and will post more reports tonight