@Serafim gave me a great idea to add Essence: Human Connection. So, considering that and/or Transcendental Connection.
Will share there as well.
Great suggestion in dynasty -
@Serafim gave me a great idea to add Essence: Human Connection. So, considering that and/or Transcendental Connection.
Will share there as well.
Great suggestion in dynasty -
Love to hear that. And congratulations! I run that custom for in person networking and its so powerful. Do you have a journal with specific results/ experiences? Would love to hear how it’s affecting you.
I ran Khan: Wealth and Power all December. It gave me recon because of my dead end job so I decided to change that by getting back into the field where I can utilize my strengths more.
At the start of the year upon review of my investments, I wasn’t happy with the performance of my high risk portfolio so I ran EOG ST1 alongside Khan:W&P. EOG ST1 seemed to unlock the charisma of Khan W&P to a whole new level.
Running C&C now and long term in a custom once it arrives to also turn around my portfolio and to amplify growth in short and long term investments. So far I’ve ran it for a few loops of 1:30-3:00. It’s already changed my investments outlook to more long term view. At 3 min I had less patience so went back to 2 min for today’s session.
Current stack is C&C, ASBR, and WDB. Will start slow with the custom then build from there.
What’s your experience with C&C so far?
How about vs. HOM if your familiar with that?
HOM did indeed have a bit more warmth with people then C&C which is somewhat all business so far. I’m confident I can consciously guide it to be more HOM like especially with Essence: Beyond Connection.
At 3 min I find my patience lacking. Went back to 2 min for today’s listen. Also I’m in a transition period regarding work which may have contributed to the impatience.
C&C has had an aura of calm related to my investments. I realized I’m too overweight in high risk stocks like MARA, MRAL, and other high beta plays. After it swings back to the upside I’ll liquidate a good chunk and re-position to more blue chip companies.
I toggled yesterday and switched back to 30 seconds of ASBR/ HOM sub
great mood, 2 beautiful sales, 2 amazing leads.
Ran 10 seconds of C&C for the second half of my day - impatient, all business, no ability on sales calls. (not a completely clean test)
Finished the day with WDB gym custom
Got into a really weird situation at the gym- won’t go into it now, but definitely super out of the blew ackward and seemed recon-esque
finished the night with 30 seconds GLM/ROW and my normal ASBR/HOM and True Sell/RICH stack. Today was back to a great sales day again.
As of now with the filtering, impatience, Emperor esque drive and fixation, Crown & Capital is not compatible with my main income driver in sales. In fact, it’s the opposite, and it actually says it as much in the copy. Something like " Not looking for the next quick win or mistaking motion for progress." The nature of that role is next quick win and motion. It is a form of progress over time. This may change with EOG: True Sell but for now it may not be a fit.
I am grappling with continued testing.
I asked ChatGPT to analyze Crown and Capital Copy and say it long term intended goal and the metrics of success
This copy is built around a two-throne model:
To become a person whose authority is internally anchored and whose wealth/influence is externally systematized—so your results persist through volatility and even beyond your lifetime.
The copy repeats this outcome in multiple ways:
If I compress it into one precise deliverable:
Enduring sovereignty + enduring compounding structures.
You become “hard to move internally” and “hard to break externally.”
The copy itself gives measurable signals; they’re just embedded in metaphor. Here are the operational metrics that match what it claims.
Decision finality
Boundary strength
Nervous-system stability under pressure
Social gravity / presence (observable)
Simple scorecard (monthly):
% of calendar that is “chosen” vs “obligated”
Nonlinear income / leverage
Resilience / downside protection
Deal quality
Network architecture
Information & privacy hygiene
Simple scorecard (quarterly):
% income that’s recurring / equity-based
Months of runway/reserves
Average deal terms vs last year (price, control, protections)
The copy’s ultimate claim is persistence beyond your presence.
If you stepped away for 30–90 days, what still works?
Track:
If those hold, you’re building what the copy calls “fortress” and “legacy structure.”
This line is the hidden KPI:
So the best single metric is:
How much of your life’s outcomes require your constant presence?
As Crown & Capital “works,” that ratio should fall.
Embodied authority + compounding systems that endure volatility and reduce dependence on your constant effort, creating legacy-level continuity.
By decision gravity, boundary integrity, calm under pressure, deal-term quality, income leverage, resilience, network centrality, and the “absence test” (what still works when you’re not there).
(If you want, I can turn this into a one-page tracking sheet (weekly + monthly metrics) tailored to your PE/fundraising world (LP outreach, deal flow, terms, reputation, and operating cadence).
If the copy indicated metrics in increase incomeor wealth or just a % of of income from presence not required
Yes — and the distinction you’re pointing to is exactly the right one.
Here is the precise answer, grounded in the copy you pasted.
Crown & Capital does not primarily suggest a metric of “how much income or wealth you make.”
It primarily suggests a metric of how income and wealth are structured — specifically, how little they depend on your constant presence and emotional labor.
Income and wealth growth are expected outcomes, but they are secondary indicators, not the core measurement.
If we strip the metaphors and look at what’s repeated again and again, the copy is obsessed with structure, resilience, and endurance, not raw accumulation.
Key phrases signal this clearly:
These are architectural metrics, not income targets.
Dependence on Presence
The most important implied metric is:
How much of your income, influence, and stability collapses if you step away?
If stepping away causes:
→ Crown & Capital has not succeeded yet.
Structural Leverage
The copy consistently points to:
So the real question becomes:
Does effort convert into structures that keep producing?
This is not “how much did you make this month?”
It’s “what did this month build that will still work next year?”
Resilience to Shock
Another core metric is:
How well does your wealth survive volatility?
The copy emphasizes:
So wealth is measured by:
The copy does not ignore income — but it treats it as evidence, not the goal.
Acceptable secondary metrics include:
Notice these are quality-of-wealth metrics, not gross income numbers.
There is no promise of:
That absence is intentional.
The copy rejects these as success metrics:
It even says:
“They mistake motion for progress.”
That is a direct rejection of income-chasing as a metric.
If Crown & Capital had one master KPI, it would be:
The percentage of your life’s outcomes that function without your constant involvement.
As that number increases:
Crown & Capital’s copy suggests that income and wealth matter only insofar as they are:
It does not frame success as “how much you make,”
but as how well what you’ve built survives absence, pressure, and time.
Part of my continued questions to ChatGPT is a re-orientation on the stated purpose of major subs
Concepts create context that IS the result as much as the external metric now.
How does it related to income?
The copy repeatedly references mechanisms that only make sense if income/wealth are expected to increase:
Income Growth SignalsThese are income-positive mechanisms.
You don’t build them unless income is expected to rise.
Wealth / Net Worth Growth SignalsThese phrases explicitly imply balance-sheet growth, not just cash flow.
Net worth, not paycheck.
The copy avoids:
This is not accidental — it’s positioning.
The copy is written to attract:
“How much more money do you make?”
“Do your income and wealth now scale, persist, and survive pressure?”
So income/wealth growth is treated as:
The implied causal chain is:
So yes — growth is absolutely implied, but through architecture, not acceleration.
The copy suggests Crown & Capital will support increasing income, wealth, and net worth indirectly by transforming how money is structured, protected, and compounded — not by promising raw income gains or fast financial results.
Short Term Metrics for success

Crown & CapitalShort term here means roughly weeks to the first 3–6 months of use.
Crown & Capital is not designed to show success first in income or net worth.
It is designed to show success first in authority, structure, and friction reduction.
The Core Short-Term Goal (in one line)To stabilize your internal authority and reduce friction, leakage, and dependence in how you make decisions, handle money, and engage with others.
Before growth, it creates order.
Short-Term Goal: Establish Internal Authority (Crown)This is why the copy emphasizes:
Behavioral / internal
Observable
Success looks like:
Decisions become quieter, faster, and emotionally cheaper.
Short-Term Goal: Reduce Energy & Attention LeaksBefore building capital, the copy wants you to stop bleeding it.
This shows up repeatedly as:
Success looks like:
Your days feel calmer and more intentional, even if nothing “external” has changed yet.
Short-Term Goal: Improve Deal & Interaction Quality (Not Quantity)The copy is explicit that early wins are quality upgrades, not volume increases.
Examples from the text:
Success looks like:
Fewer opportunities — but better ones — and less emotional charge around them.
Short-Term Goal: Begin Structural Thinking (Capital)In the short term, this is mental and organizational, not financial.
The copy says:
Examples:
Success looks like:
You see fragility where you once saw “normal,” and you want to fix it.
Short-Term Goal: Nervous-System Stabilization Under PressureThis is explicitly mentioned:
Success looks like:
Pressure no longer hijacks your behavior.
What Is Not a Short-Term Goal (Important)The copy does not define early success as:
Those are later-stage outcomes, not early metrics.
One-Sentence SummaryCrown & Capital’s short-term success is measured by increased decision finality, reduced energy leakage, calmer authority under pressure, and higher-quality interactions—not by immediate income or net-worth growth.
If someone expects:
They’ll think it’s “not working.”
If someone tracks:
They’ll see it working exactly as designed.
Mid Term
Here is the clean, precise breakdown of Crown & Capital’s mid-term goals and metrics, directly implied by the copy and consistent with how systems like this actually unfold.
Mid-term here means roughly 6–18 months of consistent use and aligned action.

Crown & CapitalIf short-term is about stability and authority,
mid-term is about leverage and compounding.
The program expects that once your internal sovereignty is stable, external reality starts reorganizing around it.
Core Mid-Term Goal (One Line)To convert personal authority into durable leverage—financial, relational, and strategic—so outcomes improve without proportional increases in effort.
Mid-Term Goal: Shift from Effort → LeverageBy mid-term, the copy expects that:
KPI example
% of income not tied to hours worked increases quarter over quarter.
Mid-Term Goal: Noticeable Improvement in Deal Quality & TermsThe copy strongly emphasizes:
KPI example
Average deal terms (price, control, protections) improve compared to prior year.
Mid-Term Goal: Network Re-ArchitectureBy mid-term, your social world is reorganized intentionally, not accidentally.
KPI example
% of meaningful opportunities coming via warm introductions increases.
Mid-Term Goal: Reduced Fragility & Increased ResilienceThis is one of the copy’s strongest mid-term themes.
KPI example
A single negative event no longer causes cascading failures.
Mid-Term Goal: Authority Is Assumed, Not TestedBy this phase:
KPI example
Decision-cycle time in groups shortens when you are involved.
Mid-Term Goal: Strategic Time Horizon ExpandsThe copy expects a shift from:
KPI example
% of decisions evaluated on 3–10 year impact increases.
What Is Still Not the Metric (Mid-Term)Even here, success is not defined as:
Money should be improving — but cleanly and structurally, not chaotically.
One-Sentence SummaryCrown & Capital’s mid-term success is measured by rising leverage, improved deal terms, stronger networks, reduced fragility, and outcomes improving faster than effort.
At mid-term, many people misinterpret the experience:
This is the phase where:
Long term

Crown & CapitalIf short-term is authority and mid-term is leverage,
long-term is endurance.
Core Long-Term Goal (One Line)To establish a self-reinforcing system of personal sovereignty and external structures that continues to produce stability, wealth, and influence with minimal dependence on your presence.
This is the “empire that endures.”
Long-Term Goal: Presence-Independent Wealth & AuthorityThe copy returns to this theme constantly:
Master KPI
% of life outcomes that function without you actively involved
Long-Term Goal: Structural Resilience Across ShocksBy long term, the system should survive:
Master KPI
Maximum damage from any single adverse event
Lower is better.
Long-Term Goal: Enduring Capital (Balance-Sheet Power)The copy’s emphasis is not cash flow — it is capital.
Master KPI
Net worth growth rate adjusted for volatility and effort
Long-Term Goal: Institutional & Network ContinuityBy this stage, influence lives in:
Master KPI
Influence continuity across role or life changes
Long-Term Goal: Legacy & StewardshipThe copy explicitly names this:
Master KPI
Longevity of structures beyond your personal participation
Long-Term Goal: Quiet Power (Low Noise, High Effect)This is subtle but critical.
Master KPI
Effectiveness per unit of visibility
What Long-Term Success Is Not
Even at this stage, success is not:
Those are distractions from endurance.
One-Sentence Long-Term SummaryCrown & Capital’s long-term success is measured by how well your authority, wealth, and influence persist through absence, pressure, and time.
This is the phase where:
This is empire logic, not growth hacking.
Absolutely. I’m a little over decade into my multi decade master plan.
The copy speaks directly to me.
I can’t remember anything else quite being so accurate for my needs.
The way you’re performing this analysis is very insightful…
Gives me an idea…
Sorry, bro – I’m about to post about this in the Into the Wonder thread.
Well you said it’s all in the copy!
So I was trying to discern what the sub was really about.
And it’s use cases solo vs. otherwise
Is this accurate from your view under the hood?
I would say that it is quite accurate. From the Subliminal Club perspective, however, we would urge you to consider steady income growth as a KPI as well, though. While it’s not explicitly stated in the copy (since it was running long anyway), this is still an Emperor title and income growth overtime is ALWAYS in Emperor titles.
start of 2033 is the start of phase 2 of my plan.
Phase one started in 2021 haha.
Just an update.
My custom with C&C/ASBR is SIGNIFICANTLY better for sales. ASBR creates that social grace and flow, that rounds out the more dominant, authorative nature of C&C and/or I’m just generally adjusting to C&C.
Closed two sales today so far. Feeling much better on navigating verbals on call and creating rapport/authority. I am also starting to see C&C keeping things more organic and on point, and coming from a space of less reactivity
What I am really looking for now is big revenue per sale, high-quality leads. (Revenue per client is more a function of the quality of lead and their relationship to money)I am seeing this around me a lot this week, but not experienced it personally yet.
ROW helps this tremendously, EOG in the past and HOM do as well, but so far ROW has lead to the biggest change in this. Hopping C&C will top it.
I am currently torn between an extreme sense of opulence and purchasing items, experiences, things for the joy of it and the expression of it, and seeing every dollar saved as a potential re-investment opportunity.
I already save and invest, and am guilt-free otherwise with my spending. But now starting to become aware and seeing what could be done. I’m seeing where my budget is large with what I spend, and where it is in service of enjoying my life while still saving and investing a lot, but I find myself more conscious of these choices now. This is C&C but also adaptive scripting on Synergy: The Golden One- specifically Sultan, I imagine.
I could probably save an extra 2-5K a month if I were smarter and more structured in my budget
My friend’s dad passed away, having saved many amazing bottles of wine, always saving them for some occasion that never came. They told me, much more eloquently, what’s the point if you don’t experience and enjoy.
I’ve also used -the energy of -I can afford that- and making big purchases for fun and investments in myself as a way of drawing in more abundance and energy- and I see the value of that too.
It will all resolve I’m sure.
C&C
The negotiation element of it, (different than sales-this is for when I am negotiating on my behalf) I see it coming up in certain situations with vendors, So far I find it has no bite(influence), it’s all matter-of-fact, and the seriousness has people reflect an equal sense of seriousness and non-messing-around-ness. This works well with certain Dominant types (if you follow disc) or people with similar reflective, Emperor-like qualities, but more often than not, lands like people who are not interested in making things work and who turn up the heat on their own terms or walk away without care. Perhaps a further filtering quality of the sub.
The main value I am getting in a sales capacity WITH ASBR and Essence: Perfect unyielding only, is a greater sense of center, calm, authenticity, and professionalism. Sovereignty without GLM mediation is anger-based, but when it’s tempered with GLM/Essence: and ASBR, it works well. It doesn’t stack well with True Sell the same way; it overpowers True Sell’s influence, but ASBR is molding it decently so far. A couple more small sales today, and I felt very in control for most calls. Towards the end of the day, I did feel impulses to ramble, and some conflict with verbal fluidity vs. speaking again. Also, not always answering/addressing things as powerfully as I could. I attribute this more to recon.
C&C does have the ability to present moment clarity and precision in sales that is brilliant. This is the present thing that creates an alignment in outcome scripting, I imagine, but it’s only useful with stack softeners, which help patience, warmth, and verbiage. Then the increased authority and skill set can become an asset.
Now that I’m grasping the sub- certain sales feel absolutely ridiculous to meaningfully speak to the person, so I need a reason to disqualify people or temper myself.
In terms of lead flow, I am seeing decent leads, but they tend to be very money-savvy and not interested in making decisions quickly. They are big on negotiating down to lower price points. They’re not the ideal archetype for my sale - but they’re solid. Its funny to see them reflecting C&C qualities to a degree as well hahhhahaa- These reflections sometimes happen fast. Too early to say this is specifically C&C, but funny to note.
On ROW, I see a ton of leads who see the value of what money gets and don’t worry about the money. They’ll purchase more, with less need to converse or persuade.
I really see this sub as amazing in a really high-level finance role, capital raising, or capital markets. This would be even better than Emperor for a corporate job, imo, for elements of entrepreneurship or career development when people start building a steady flow of capital.
One thing I am loving is
The execution on this is strong; do things that matter now vs. later. What things are there to do that matter that I can start doing that have more leverage? What actions can I take now that I have not wanted to take out of risk aversion or resistance, but could now increase capital? These are all questions I am asking myself and feeling strongly motivated toward
Got this cool answer about stacking WDB
Is Spartan: The Beast Unleashed effected by the relaxation in certain subs Dragon Reborn: Regeneration or Wanted Dream Boy
My arousal and peak performance levels seem down on Beast when in combo. They still work well together but not nearly at the same speed as Spartan: The Beast Unleashed solo or with Hero: Earth or even Khan. Recon and dilution could be part of it but wonder if there are any antithetical effects to the two?
SubliminalClub Support
4 days ago
There are two potential explanations for what you’re experiencing:
1. Subsiding Unconscious Validation Drives
Dragon Reborn: Regeneration and WANTED: Dream Boy both focus on authenticity and relaxation. What you may have been experiencing as “arousal” or “peak performance” could have been unconscious validation-seeking drives – the need to prove something or perform for external approval. As these titles help you become more authentic and relaxed, those false drivers start to subside. What feels like reduced arousal might actually be a shift away from performance anxiety toward genuine, grounded energy.
2. Potential Energy State Conflict
That said, there is a potential clash between Dragon Reborn: Regeneration and Spartan: The Beast Unleashed. Regeneration is designed for deep relaxation, rest, and the “inner spa” – creating parasympathetic nervous system dominance. Beast Unleashed is about peak performance, primal explosive energy, and high-intensity states. These are opposite ends of the nervous system spectrum, so running them together could create competing directives.
Why Beast Works Better With Hero: Earth
Hero: Earth likely works better because it’s about embodiment and mastery of the body – a compatible focus with Beast’s physical performance goals. Both are grounded in the physical realm without the deep relaxation/healing focus that Regeneration brings.
Recommendations:
If peak performance is your priority, consider running Beast solo or with titles focused on embodiment and action (like Hero: Earth or Khan). Save Dragon Reborn: Regeneration for dedicated healing cycles.
Alternatively, the reduced arousal you’re experiencing might be a positive sign – false validation drives dropping away as you become more authentic. Monitor whether your actual performance results are declining, or just the subjective feeling of arousal.
Let me know if you’d like more guidance on stack optimization.
Best regards,
Subliminal Club Support Team
Azriel
4 days ago
What about in combination with Wanted Dream Boy or Wanted- will Beast synergize better with that or is the relaxation scripting in those respectvely or will that create conflict as well.
I have run the two successfully at times but wanted to double check. Thank you
SubliminalClub Support
3 hours ago
Hi there,
Great follow-up question! Let me clarify the key distinction here.
WANTED: Dream Boy + Beast Unleashed
Good news: These two WILL synergize well together.
The “relaxation” in WANTED: Dream Boy comes from authenticity scripting – not direct parasympathetic/rest activation. This creates a “dream-like” quality to your presence, but it doesn’t interfere with physical performance or exercise intensity.
Dream Boy helps you drop false validation-seeking and performance anxiety, which actually allows your natural power to flow more freely. The calm, grounded presence it creates is about being authentic, not about deep nervous system rest.
So you can absolutely run WANTED: Dream Boy with Beast Unleashed without the dilution issue.
Dragon Reborn: Regeneration + Beast Unleashed
This combination is where the conflict occurs.
Dragon Reborn: Regeneration contains direct relaxation scripting:
This is the title that creates the energetic clash with Beast’s explosive, primal, high-performance energy.
Bottom Line:
Will create dilution/conflict with Beast:
Will synergize well with Beast:
Your Instinct Was Correct:
You mentioned you’ve “run the two successfully at times” – that’s because Dream Boy and Beast actually work well together! The authenticity and grounded presence from Dream Boy complements Beast’s physical intensity.
The issue is specifically with Dragon Reborn: Regeneration due to its direct relaxation/rest scripting.
Does this clarify the distinction? You can confidently stack WANTED: Dream Boy with Beast Unleashed!
Best regards,
Subliminal Club Support