Ascension for broken person

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#6

Just want to mention that I was in a similar position to you (in regards to family life, financial position, mental state, physical health) before I ever ran a subliminal. 14 months later and I’m a completely different individual. Put in the work and everything will come. Continuing to wallow in self-pity will do nothing for you.

Edit: Want to mention that a big reason for this change was me starting Muay Thai, so I second @ksub: join a boxing/fighting gym, like yesterday. Nowhere near as intimidating as a weightlifting gym.

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#7

I appreciate everyone’s advice but it isn’t anything I haven’t read on hundreds of other self-help forums. I don’t mean any offense to anyone.

I’m just wondering, will (with time) this sub help me to heed that kind of advice and do something about it, or are it’s effects nothing as overt as that? In other words, I know all this advice, I heard it for as long as I’ve been on the internet, but I’ve never done anything about it. Is Ascension supposed to give me the push to actually follow that advice?

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#8

From my experience Ascension is the perfect subliminal for this — it always gave strong confidence, outstanding character, and helped me to become an individual living fully in his power.

I felt like the past versions instantly turned my world upside down the ZP version to me feels smoother, and more of a long-term but permanent experience. I’d say give it a few months and you’d surely be a changed person…

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#9

I actually a few days ago changed Emperor for Ascension. Emperor seemed to me as too big an animal to be tamed for now.

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#10

The subs wont do much if YOU don’t take action. You have some great advice from ksub; I started boxing and after 2 years I was calling it my second home. I spent weekends with people there, I met, helped and got help from lawyers, doctors, taxi drivers, kids I met there.

You mention you read self help. that’s good, but what did you do with that? reading about stuff wont get you where you want. Small steps: joining a boxing club is easy, dont overthink it and plan what will happen after: only objective is to enlist and take a first class. YOU CAN DO IT MAN!!!

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#11

Eventually it will .

But you have to take initation .

Read this post from one of the founder -

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#12

Going to respond more in depth later. You’ve got a lot to unpack from the sounds of it. You’re not broken, you just didn’t get your needs met as a child. But I understand that feeling because a lot of people want to point the finger at you and say “well that’s really no excuse, you can’t blame things on your parents”.

Ascension can be a tricky one. It certainly has the potential to pull you out of all this. But it’s all about how you respond to it. Sometimes another approach is needed.

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#13

Day 4

I feel a bit more grounded. I don’t know if it’s because my mood swings tend to come and go and are “gone” right now or if it’s the sub. But for the sake of not stonewalling myself, I will say that it is the sub.

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#15

And there’s a reason why you’ve seen it hundreds of times: because it fucking works.

Like @lovage said, you have to act. That’s all it takes.

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#16

Day 11

This week I’ve gotten an opportunity to get trained on something new at work and I jumped on it, and I feel a lot better learning something new than just stagnating with the same tasks. Maybe the sub created the opportunity and the action I had to take was just to go along with it.

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#17

I feel I’m getting a better grip on some habits like my diet (intermittent fasting 18:6, some carb reduction and counting calories), and nofap (cut out the porn a while ago but not the fap), On maybe a week streak now.

Day 16

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#18

On washout

I am quite happy with ascension. Earlier this year I ran 3 cycles of Wanted and had nothing to show for it except a ton of recon leading to that rant in the first post.

Meanwhile ascension seems very light with just occasional bits of recon, and I’m getting results. I’m maintaining my nofap and diet (lost 2 more pounds in ~2wks), doing pretty good at zoning out my parents useless nagging ( my untreated schizo mom has even gotten out of the house to stay with my brother for a few days and it’s doing wonders for my peace of mind. And she doesn’t bother him because he doesn’t have time for her shit and she knows that.), giving less of a shit about the married crush at work ,she shows me signs of interest here and there (which is funny to watch) but we know where we stand so that’s that.

I’m eyeing primal. The “going in deep” vibe seems cool. I’m getting a taste of that from ascension, especially at work where I am learning thing just by going in and doing them, then learning from mistakes and obviously wasting a bit more company resources than normal, but that’s really not a problem when working for a greedy corporation. But I’m going to give ascension 1-2 more cycle solo to get the most of it.

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#19

Starting cycle 2 day 1. Definitely felt some stuff during washout (like being more on top of stuff to get done). Also this may sound dumb but I brought my first clothing article myself. My parents have brought almost all my clothes up to this point. Always buying me decent quality but suboptimal shit that was only on sale so almost all my clothing was baggy and ugly because that was all that my parents were willing to buy, not spend the extra for something else more expensive but actually fit me or a color that worked on me.I finally brought some jeans that fit me, not giving a fuck about how many coupons I could stack and still paying an acceptable price for it.

I wore it the next day, and it made me feel great actually. I’ve never walked without extra material on my pants flopping around.

Starting cycle 2 today.

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#20

Is it ok to skip a listening day? This is day 3 and I feel a little weird, I can’t tell if it’s recon or something else. Would it be beneficial or not to just skip day 3 and continue on 5 with listening?

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#21

There is nothing wrong with skipping a listening day or doing a longer washout. :slight_smile:

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#22

It’s not just okay. It’s good.

Skip away.

That 15 minutes of sub listening continues to work for many days afterwards.

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#23

Cycle 2 day 18

I’ve taken a few more extra days off here and there this cycle, I think the sub is going in deeper to my subconscious or something.

I’ve started a routine of waking up early and doing a 4.5 mile walk first thing in the morning. Not much as far as exercise goes but I guess I’m building a habit. I know about taking action, I’ve taken some, and I hope the sub can help me keep it going. Is that how it’s supposed to work or am I misinterpreting something?

I keep on masturbating. Not to porn, I’m very good about avoiding that. But still I feel a life force draining. But it’s hard as a 25 yr old guy with no woman in his life at all and never had one. I think about sex and romance a lot. I looked at the seduction subs and keep thinking about them. But they won’t do me good because I have too much internal work to do right now.

I have to continue with ascension. Maybe 2 more cycles or longer, until the minor recon I’m having subsides. Then maybe healing to let go of my childhood and shitty parenting so I can confidently live the remainder of my life. Someone suggested elixir and regeneration. Then after that ascended mogul because a man without status and money is considered less than human in this society (for good reason too, biologically speaking). Then after all that I can possibly thing about seduction subs. But all of that is a long time away, for now onwards with ascension.

#24

Cycle 2 done, on washout. Gonna give it a week this time since 5 days wasn’t enough. Misjudged some workload at work yesterday and pulled off a 12 hour shift with my coworker. Interesting stuff.

#25

You might be blowing this sex stuff out of proportion. Sex is not that hard to get if you put some work into it. At some point you’ll sleep with someone. :man_shrugging:
Are you taking any steps to make it happen? Are you putting yourself in situations where you can meet women? Have you started working out? How is your self confidence? Have joined a dance class? How many women have you started a conversation with over the last 30 days? How do you dress?
In a nutshell, are you making yourself attractive enough for a woman to see you as a possible sex partner? I understand that you need to gain those skills. While it’s not the easiest thing to do, it’s not the hardest thing either.

None of us had perfect parenting. We all have family and childhood trauma to heal. That’s part of life. The sooner you let it go, the better. Good luck.

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#26

The sex thing was sort of a rant, I don’t think I care about it too much. A sexual or romantic relationship would serve no purpose right now. Gotta move out of my parents fucking house first :slightly_smiling_face:

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