How long are you running khan stage 1?
3 weeks now. Previously I did run it for a full month exclusively.
@SaintSovereign I know this was asked in the past and you paged @Fire as well, yet we did not got an answer. Is ST1 part of ST4 with the Q version of Khan? It’s pretty important when deciding stacks…
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Thanks for the update @lovage
Commander will likely support in the ongoing discipline based goals.
what’s your experience like on primal that has you love it so much?
How does it compare with Khan Stage 4?
How many loops of k1?
For me, Primal does a better job at being Sanguine than Sanguine(half kidding).
I always feel worry free, extremely sexual in a playful way and I always get away with it. While some women are offended at first by my direct sexual comments, I’m just too happy for them not to tag along. I do feel happy whenever I run Primal, and I think this reflects in everything I do, say, aura. hence the reason most people around me are also high-spirited.
The downsides: productivity, determination are non existent haha. But it’s just part of Primal’s charm.
Oh, and (not sure if actually a downside): ridiculous horniness levels with the Q version. Beyond anything I feel with Sexual Mastery, but (only after one experience), closer to how I feel when fucking after Diamond.
I see Primal closer to ST3, with ST4 I feel like a rock: nothing can phase me, confident and less playful(but still playful). With Primal I really don’t give a shit what I say, how I say but that’s also because most things I say about someone are nice.
I feel like combining Khan and Primal would not give any benefits, but maybe it’s worth a shot.
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16loops of Q? 
Yes, but keep in mind that overall I’ve run Khan (one of the stages) more than one year combined.
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Makes perfect sense.
Running a title for more than a year…can you say it gets stronger? More results?
Not stronger, but it becomes part of who you are 
I think sometimes we’re so hung up to see changes, that we ignore the changes that are already part of us and crave new ones
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Primal seems to really affect you! awesome to hear.
by the way, why not using primal seduction instead of primal?
in the sales page it says its like primal just with the extra addition of outer game, doesnt it match more of your goals then just primal?
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Dude, I did try PS. And Iron Throne. And it’s just not the same for me. Maybe I don’t react well (or prefer) to seduction scripting or something
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Primal is all free flow and instinct, no push or drive directly. The horniness is there but not the ‘go, go’ go
which is super fun. Amash called iit pure Wu Wei–non-doing/ or doing without doing. That’s my experience as well.
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Would you say you prefer primal or primal seduction where it comes to going out with friends for example?
I don’t know, I’ve only run them on solo outings. On primal I’d probably ignore guys,
on PS I’d navigate convo with them while moving over to a seduction.
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I think it depends on how much you like yourself. It’s exactly as Azriel put it “free flow”: if you like yourself, Primal would be the way to go for sure.
I remember going out with a group, obviously in lust with one of the girls. She was curious about me, but that’s all. I consciously turned my back to her to talk with one of the guys, while giving her a cheeky smile. She hated that. Once I finished my conversation with the guy, I just went to her and told her that it was too much for me not to look at her for so long, because she looks amazing that night and every second I gaze at her makes me feel stuff in my tummy(yes I literally used tummy haha). I didn’t give a shit about her potential response, yet she fluttered and tried to mumble something. She was just an ok fuck.
That’s why I love Primal: there’s no agenda, you do/say what you feel. And because there is no agenda, and you’re being yourself - people love the interactions. As I write this, I think it’s pretty obvious I need to include Primal in my next stack. The power of writing down stuff, heh.
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Here’s a tentative of my (at least) 3 months stack: I’ve decided to give Stark a fair chance.
- Active programs (expecting results within 3 months): Stark / Ascension / Primal. On previous runs of Stark, it felt lacking in masculinity and sexuality. So here it goes: ascension and primal should do the trick, I do not want to mix Stark with heavy titles like Emperor or Khan.
- Passive programs (1 loop per day moving forward, no matter the stack): Dragon ST4 and EF ST4. Not expecting visible results in the first 6 months.
- Booster: I’ll give limitless executive a try since it’s supposed to synergize with Stark
Not final, but shaping up a good stack
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Just curious why not stage 1 DR?