Aliens(15char!)

What is your take on aliens;
some say they are untrustble some say they are demons some say they don’t exist some say they are astral entities, so there are good ones and bad ones

And when I scroll the tweeter I saw a post from account I used to look up but he says also they are untrustble and they have their own agenda against humans but I find this attitude stupid and fear-mongering, so what is your thoughts about this subject

Its twitter

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It’s xcancel lol

I reckon with all of life many questions is that we get the answers we want in death …that’s it . Too much lies and bs in this world to never really believe certain things exist unless you see with your own two eyes

A mixed bag in my personal experience.

You guys seem pretty cool for the most part. And I think I’m half-decent.

Or did you mean aliens not from Earth?

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Did… the wise sage just crack a joke? Because I just lol’d so hard.

On the topic of extraterrestrials. Given the sheer size of the universe, it is pretty much undeniable that there are other life forms out there. And given the current scientific understanding of the universe – that is infinite in expression – it is a given that you will find “good” extraterrestrials and “bad” extraterrestrials if we are judging them based upon human morality.

On the topic of extraterrestrials “crash landing” on Earth and the such. Look at the distances between solar systems and other galaxies. Most likely, if they exist, they are not using standard propulsion based systems to travel, because that would take far too long to reach Earth from ANYWHERE. They would be using some kind of warp technology, or some kind of wormhole or the such, meaning they aren’t “crashing” on Earth.

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It’s a big topic. Because there is at least a subset of encounters that have verified non material aspects to them, some people refer to them has non human intelligences (NHI).

Steve Mera has some interesting content on the topic; John Keel and J Allen Hynek were some of the earliest public figures to suggest more of an NHI/ultraterrestrial approach to the subject. This is the closest you’ll probably get to the “astral entities” designation. Since there’s no firmly established meaning to “astral” in this sense, I prefer NHI or ultraterrestrial, since it doesn’t assume so much about the origins.

For what its worth, I’m told John Keel in his work on The Eighth Tower (and this may be a later edition of his work, because I haven’t been able to confirm it in writing) found indications many of the “negative” entities hailed from the infra-red region of the spectrum and that manifestations of these entities could often be evaded through the use of the ultraviolet spectrum as well as iron. Interestingly enough, the spectrum of moonlight has significant spectral lines in the infra-red. With that said however, at least the early editions of Eighth Tower and some of the things John Keel said in that book suggest to me that these NHI may have influenced Keel’s perspectives, so open minded skepticism remains the best approach IMO.

But it is clear from anecdotal accounts at least that, as with all entities in this universe, there is the potential for deception and personal agendas and this does occur in some cases; I don’t see this as fear mongering as long as the “sombunall” caveat is taken into account.

I also like Chris Ramsay’s open minded takes on the topic. There’s a lot of good content on the topic out there, you just need to know where to look.

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We revolve around the sun. Which is just one of 200B stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Which is just one of trillions of galaxies.

Likely some other life out there if we look far enough

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I’d be genuinely surprised if there wasn’t

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If life else were follows the same old " survival of the fittest " then it’s likely that any intelligent beings that evolved has self terminated at some point. If any went through a large enough spiritual awakening then they would be wise to stay away from us lol.

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lol that’s funny.

I love people talking about Andromedans and Acturians not sure the name. Alien supposedly more advanced who interact with us all the time. This is pretty big in the rabbit hole of occult/Qanon/self-help/niche that the Hermit guy used to praise.

I also like this about dimension from Neil Tyson

My take on aliens is that they don’t pay my bills, lol.

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That’s sad :disappointed_relieved:

Aliens are interesting, but I’m more focused on what actually affects my life. I don’t think it’s “sad” for a man to have real responsibilities and put most of his time and energy into his goals and what he can control.

Do you know what I find “sad”?

When a man wastes his potential.

When a man is spending hours spiraling into YouTube rabbit holes, and highly speculative fringe theories while his finances, health, and relationships are falling apart. When the man insists that he’s driven by “intellectual curiosity”, when deep down it’s nothing more than avoidance and escapism driven by fear.

There is no man with a crazy, amazing sex life, healthy abundant relationships, and a deep sense of purpose, who is going down demonic alien rabbit holes at 2 am. There is nothing for him to escape to because there is already an overwhelming flow of meaning and fulfillment in his life within its simplicity.

I find that the speculative theories are like a never ending black hole that sucks all of your creative energy - with the deeper you go, the more questions you have - which makes you spend even more of your energy into them. They are designed to never lead to any concrete answers. All the while, your dreams, aspirations, and visions for an ideal life are sat on the backburner wondering why they’re not receiving any attention. It’s because the prioritization of those things require growth which involves discomfort. I have a theory that people latch onto these things as a form of psychological/emotional coping mechanism. I compare the mechanics to doom scrolling, although they are not the same thing.

I used to coach younger men, and the first thing I made clear was that I wanted them to send me their internet usage every day. Internet search history, app usage, etc. I wanted to see what they were focusing on, and how many hours they were putting in to their actual goals. These men were struggling with financial dependency, porn addiction, poor relationships, and weak dating lives. When they started changing what they focused on, not only did things start to get better for them - but their mental health skyrocketed. They had something to strive towards after getting out of bed. They felt way more confident due to taking agency and control in their lives. The list goes on.

I’m not implying that you’re doing any of these things, I’m merely sharing why I have the perspective that I have.

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I concur. I can recognize that which is higher, but still know that it is the physical material world that serves as the field of experience and growth. And thus, if every person has a “purpose,” that purpose is here on Earth, in the concrete world.

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I think that most info about them is utter B.S that is being pushed by certain people for unknown reasons. Probably simply to make money off book deals.

However, after smoking DMT, I feel confident that there are interdimensional beings that interact with humanity. Some are good, others are less good.

The open question in my mind, is whether the beings on DMT are physical, and the DMT opens a psychic doorway. Or if they are purely energy beings.

No idea.

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Opinion / observation here. If you wanted to trap a being that had unlimited potential and prevent them from exercising it, you would start like any good stage magician by redirecting and redefining their perception. So you take a world in which every atom is vibrating and jiggling in unison with every other part of the ambient environment, where most of what we can measure is empty space and force-fields, feed it through limited sensory organs that make it look solid and “tangible”, real even, even though that solidity is a limited appreciation of a deeper reality, identify that visual illusion of solidity with the object itself.

Then you take some “purpose” such as making someone feel good about themselves, teaching people some technique, love, feeding the homeless etc, even being the world’s best fighter pilot. Attribute that same “solidity” to “actions” which are considered “tangible” or “physical”, even though they originate in the non physical domain, and say that this purpose takes place in “the concrete world”, even though all the influence on our fellow humans takes place in their consciousness.

By misidentifying our actions as having a “physical”, tangible origin, the old “beings of meat” trope is reinforced. Identification which what is seen or felt through the senses localizes the consciousness, makes it believe you are “here” on Earth, take something that is infinite and force it to think in limited, finite terms, until that finite world is all that its mental world is outfitted to think about.

Any purpose that looks like it is restricted to the concrete world, can be seen to be a process initiated and executed in the non tangible, spiritual realm. The tangible outcomes valued so much are the result of the exercising of a spiritual power which is much more immanent and real than the shifting matter that gives a clue to its presence.

OT: not advocating believing everything you read on the internet (or off the internet) here. But I’m glad there are people out there exploring ideas like these. Anything that reminds us that what we see is only a very limited sliver of reality, and that an invisible world exists. is highly worthwhile in my opinion. Especially if it leads people in the direction of things like Tesla’s ability to floridly hallucinate machines he was building in his head, or to wander about the world gaining experiences as he admitted without leaving the comfort of his bed (his out of body experiences aren’t much spoken of).

He even said " My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists"

Acknowledging things like that is probably why he ended up making contact.

[Edit: Probably a big part of the reason I’m looking forward to BLITW. Any sub inspired by Tesla and his ability to go beyond the limitations of ordinary human cognition has to be something special :wink:]

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People on this forum are blessed to having access to and being able to purchase something called “Astral Projection X”.

With this tool, everyone could literally and potentially meet real intelligent alien beings within the next few days.

And by this, proof everything to themselves and have a definite answer to all of these questions for themselves.

While most planets in the universe do not have life on the physical plane, but they do have it on the astral planes. And going out of body is how one can encounter this life.

That’s all I am going to share here.

The practical tool is there and the very few who will have the spiritual courage and the readiness to explore this, will be greatly rewarded.

The others will just continue to laugh this off and hand wave it away as “some crazy idea” and will just continue with their speculations…

But I also recognize that most people are here as humans for a specific growth purpose and, by design, fully focussed on their human experience.

And I also agree that for most of these people it is best to fully focus on their material Earth life and not indulge in internet rabbit holes escapism.

@Skadoosh
Btw, those beings can absolutely help you “to pay your bills” – since they can act as your manifestation supporters just like everyone else too. It is more of an advanced cheat code and not available for most. But the day you will finally run Astral Projection X for a longer period of time, I am pretty sure you will make jokes about all of this from a different point of view :wink:

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That escalated quickly. We moved from there are being in other planets (possible yet unproven) to they of course exist and they live in astral plane. #WeNeedHermitBack

I really liked Arrival as an alien movie.

Good point on APX!

And yeah, they keep it pretty quiet that high level executives within aerospace companies have experimented with this for gaining solutions to technological problems (and even using remote viewers to troubleshoot problems in electronic circuits). Not even talking about Parsons or any of those earlier people from the space program, but high level “no nonsense” individuals who don’t care why something works, just that it does.

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