Did you ever read Rudolf Steiner?
Might give it a try
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No thanks, I’m good.
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Many of the helpful forces, energies, and entities in this cosmos help you whether or not you acknowledge them. Often it has more to do with alignment, I think (i.e., if you take your hang-glider and go to the top of a high peak, the winds don’t wait for you to say, ‘please’ before carrying you aloft.)
So, at least at lower levels, it may be kind of 6 one way, half-dozen the other. Just show up as yourself and follow right ideals, principles, and values. Many beneficial forces and effects will resonate and there’s no need to worry too much about what all of them specifically are.
Of course, for those who have more specific or advanced interests, needs, and aims, more focused and deliberate intention and investigation comes online. But that’s always true no matter what subject we’re talking about.
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Once again, I concur.
Here’s my thing: everyone acts like the ancient sacred scriptures of pretty much every religion DIDN’T discuss the inclusion of highly evolved beings intervening in the affairs of humanity – and even more interesting is the fact that most religious or spiritual people accepts this as fact.
But that being said, it is my opinion that one can simply work a job, use their money responsibility and just PAY THEIR BILLS as a responsible individual of the collective. As such, Subliminal Club does not include such appeals to higher powers and the such in our titles. Instead, we focus on the practical nature of things (here are the habits and mindsets you can utilize to achieve your goals) to help people – and if they want to then engage with whatever things they want outside of that, they can. This allows for universality, because there’s nothing that can trigger issues between the producer’s beliefs and the customer’s.
In other words, we can respect the various beliefs of the world, understand them and even recognize that there may be truths there. But at the end of the day, I still have to get up (even when I don’t want to) and perform the service necessary to generate the income to pay my bills.
This is an issue I’ve experienced with people in my own life, marking philosophical debates with each other as “spiritual tests” and them trying to force me to make an appeal to a higher power when I’m simply annoyed at them for saying something rude. You could simply realize that you’ve said something rude and discuss it, there’s no need to haul off and trying to “rebuke” others in the name of their deity and the such.
Just don’t be a jerk. Pay your bills. Work toward your goals. See incredible results.
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Yes I’ve been familiar with some of his writings for quite a long time, although by no means an expert on him. One area that is interesting with that is his material on Ahrimanic vs Luciferian beings, and how he mentioned the latter were interested in human technological progress even to the point of fusion, whereas the former pushed in the opposite direction of an anti evolutionary force.
Modern research into the phenomena by people like Keel, Vallee, and so on (and Mera also) has found that yes there is a component to the phenomenon that seems to be very interested in “gifting” technology to humans, although not with a benific intent, more like giving matches to the kids so they can play with them. It even seems likely that what many people think of as alien influence behind the space program, the development of the transistor, and so on, is actually more properly non human entities that are not necessarily what we would properly call extra terrestrial, with the intent of slowing down the development of skills in the area of self-cultivation, consciousness and so on.
It’s not like this is a new idea, I mean Robert Anton Wilson was talking about this decades ago, and Grady even told him in private that he (and presumably his predecessor) knew what was going on. But it is kind of exciting to see that some of Steiner’s conceptions seem to be being borne out, even if the implications are pretty heavy for things likely to go down in the not too far away future. For me it ties together a lot of different threads - Biblical, conspiracy-related, scientific and more, and it’s not surprising that the work of people like Keel, Vallee, Hynek and so on was so widely condemned early on and even today the attempts are still present to push the narrative away from this.
Of course it doesn’t pay the bills, but neither does love, or intellectual curiosity, or a passionate desire to understand the world around you. And I’m not throwing those away any time soon.
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This is a topic I’m deeply interested in, but it is a peculiar interest. I’ve never found any particular interest in diving deep on it through reading first hand or historical accounts on the topic, but I am broadly aware of many “larger” threads of narrative/thought on the topic.
The “aliens” topic exists in an interesting place for me where I feel a degree of investment in keeping abreast of a sampling of thoughts and feelings on the matter. The truth that resonates with me personally is strange enough that I’ve yet to find the correct language to express it in its entirety.
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