Aegis Initiative: Survival Instinct or Sanguine? Wondering if anyone has any suggestions on what I should run

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#1

Hey all. I’ve entered a point in my life where I’ve started having concerns for my own safety. I don’t know if it’s fear or legitimate and I guess that’s the scariest part for me. I’d rather not downplay my environments around me out of denial and end up hurt. I’m also moving to another state soon so that’s gonna be a whole other level of mapping out safe areas.

My original intent was to run Sanguine to keep me emotionally stable and think clearer and not be overwhelmed by what could happen. But then the other part of me feels like the fear is there as a sign I need to do something to prepare myself more. So I was considering Aegis Initiative: Survival Instinct. The caveat being I probably wouldn’t take up martial arts or go hardcore into survival skills. In a self defense situation that’s life or death it’s going to come down to two things for me, not freezing up and being able to put aside empathy enough to do some damaging things to another human being to stop them from harming me. Obviously #1 is avoiding situations that could be harmful and people that would harm me.

My main concern with Aegis is that this title will activate my fight or flight response more because I’m fixating on undesirable scenarios and how to avoid them vs focusing on the good things in life. But just because I don’t want things to exist in reality doesn’t make them magically disappear.

I’m really conflicted and just thought I’d crowdsource some opinions if anyone is up to it. Thanks!

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#2

Run elixir or sanguine. This sounds more mental than real. Unless you killed someone and now their spouse is going for vengeance on you with a gun : )

Unless someone armed isn’t actively looking for you, then yeah just chill bruv.

#3

For context I’m a transgender woman and quit visibly at that so I stick out. Without getting into politics it’s not a great time to be trans in the US. So that’s really what I was factoring in.

#4

I mean… you could get some spray for yourself and run survival instinct for few cycles. It will literally cost you nothing. Maybe consider not going into questionable places after dark alone. But that’s a general advice you’d give to let’s say even most women. I see where you’re coming from. You don’t even need subs for this tbh. Just be smart about things.

If you feel very very unsafe, run a program for the mind. If you just want to be actually safe, run survival instinct. You could even run both eventually. One first and then the second later. You have a lifetime ahead of you for running subs.

#5

Does it mean male to female or female to male?

#6

Yeah idk what I’m feeling right now tbh.

Male to female.

#7

@Lion IIRC has experience with Survival Instinct

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#8

I had an aegis survival and spartan apex custom that I ran for a year. Had all the included limiting people remover, fearsome, fenrir, manipulus etc.

For me the best was New Primal and New Sanguine. Also Chosen Way of Nature was good too. Any combo of those would be great: Aegis Survival, New Sanguine, New Primal, Chosen Way of Nature.

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#9

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Learning relaxation techniques can help you with the mental and physical feelings of fear. You could also try complementary therapies or exercise such as massage, t’ai chi, yoga, mindfulness techniques, or meditation.

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#10

Yes. I can vouch for Survival Instinct.

I was faced with a potential unsafe scenario in tbe future so I ran AISI to feel safer.

After some major initial recon in the first two weeks, it dissolved a lot of emotional structures in my mind dealing with fear.

I also made a custom with Survival Instinct Core + Love Bomb for Humanity to add on the safety scripting in LBFH. Ran this for two or three cycles. I think that resolved 90% of my issues and I haven’t encountered any insecurity after that.

Am currently not running it right now but I think it has fixed a lot of my mental and emotional worries to the extent that I don’t care what happens to me.

Once the fear was gone, I feel safe regardless of what happens to me. And I think that in turn protects me from people who can sense the fear and come to prey on it.

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#11

If I were to redo my custom I’d go with Survival Instinct and Sanguine. There’s a few new modules that would be great, one is called You Are Not Alone, another is Safety Net.

Also a module called Codename: Umbra - which is supposed to make you go unnoticed by dangerous people or something. I would actually like to test that module myself, just from some of the types I notice who notice me. But they never talk to me or do anything so I probably don’t need it.

Although Survival Instinct, Love Bomb For Humanity would be good too.

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#12

This is a good module and was the first to go into my AISI + LBFH custom.

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#13

Hero Origins is a great idea if you’re concerned about the fight or flight:

Regarding the political / street situation, I would be more concerned about the upcoming potential invasion by foreign powers or the immigrants from various prisons released into the US than another political ideology. If you’re not being openly belligerent towards your fellow country men/women, the incoming majority are actually not openly hostile (for the most part, there are some small extremist elements) because they understand the importance of strength in unity. A disclaimer: I’m not an American, but I keep a very close eye on the sentiments of both wings of the bird over there because I have multiple US friends I care about (including some transgender individuals). The media brainwashing vilifying over half of the existing opopulation over there really did a number on people and I feel really sad for the people who have been indoctrinated into a culture of fear and division, a tactic they use all across the world including in my home country. It’s an insidious form of mind control (specifically splitting the two hemispheres off from cross talk in order to hand control to the R-complex) that ultimately can only be overcome by open dialogue between the two sides to heal the trauma that has been cultivated.

Sanguine will be good in the interim though for helping to sooth the fight or flight impulse so you can make a more sound/reasoned decision free of fear.

EDIT: To clarify the mind control comment, if you can artificially create a mainly dominantly left brained or right brained operation in a person, you can hand control to either the limbic (in the case of right brained, emotionally driven individuals) or the reptillian brain (for left brained individuals), and this creates either a master or slave/victim mentality which needs to be healed by working with your own trauma and your own mind to balance the analytic and feeling/intuitive based sides of the personality. So for some Democrats, they have been thrown headlong into the limbic system and their emotions and that’s the reason that so many people are freaking out right now. It disgusts me that people do this to entire populations, whatever their motivation, but the science of how this works is plain as day. It needs to stop, the division needs to stop so people can move forward together.

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#14

Just to give you some more perspective beyond my last comment, back in 2006 and 2007 I hung out at Burning Man with a group of ceremonial magic enthusiasts, and got to spend time with a transgender M2F who was one of the best candid photographers I’ve ever known, who taught me a lot about the craft. There was another gender fluid individual in the same group as well as many polyamorous individuals. At that time in society there was very little division between cis and non-cis individuals. All of that divisive crap has been engineered, and there is blame on both sides of the political divide. At the time I was hanging out with these multiple TG individuals at the Burn, they were fully accepted and even carefully accomodated into the group.

I have watched probably hundreds of hours of videos of both conservative (my own closest match) and liberal stuff, and the impression I got from what I took in is that conservatives don’t have hatred towards trans people specifically, but they have concerns about ensuring they retain control over the raising of their own kids and ensuring that they grow up well adjusted and in control over their own decisions about sexuality and gender, as well as the survival of their own way of life in the communities they primarily interact with. But they also want to raise up a strong country that accepts what is head on without fear rather than pretending that what someone feels is the only reality and forcing other people to accommodate mental illness (in some but not all instances). The situation over there in your country is nuanced, and there are both real trans individuals and grifters operating in the same space, and the only way people will sort out their differences is by being brave and choosing negotiation rather than enmity.

My suggestion to you would be to take steps concrete and sub wise to balance your hemispheres (Limitless / QL is also good for that) and then interact with other people of differing opinions in a safe space, if you can organize that. Getting objective proof of the lay of the land is the best way to move forward rather than assuming others are against you. Chances are, they’re probably not.

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#15

We really shouldn’t delve into politics!

Extremely contentious topic. (very much on the (european) liberal side of things, I’ve seen straight up cruelty from the political right towards the TG community.)

Burning Man is in its own way probably a safe and welcoming place, but the safe places aren’t the problem.

@Fractal_Explorer No idea how much space you got in your stack but maybe try both? They sound like a good set.

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#16

Burning Man is a complete melting pot.

My point in the last posts was not politics, but to point out that this push towards division between camps is artificially created and serves no-one. It’s always best to ignore political rhetoric and focus on identifying what is, rather than what some authority figure says is the case.

I’ve interacted with all types of genders and sexualities (excluding the illegal and debauched sexualities) and I can tell you from my experience interacting with them that there doesn’t need to be division amongst them, and the divide is over-exaggerated for the personal gain of people who should know better. If you want to be legendary, you need to get beyond the political crap which divides us and focus on observing natural law rather than mans law. All of that fear based stuff just divides us and prevents us from finding real solutions.

#17

We are in violent agreement on these points.

I have a problem with the bothsideism which is sadly crippling all political discourse (especially on the left), but this is no place for this discussion.

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#18

That is agreed, and I have kept the political discourse to a minimum in my posts except to indicate that my examination of the problem from a non emotional, objective and rational viewpoint is that different sides have been played against one another to create isolation and weaken the United States, and that it needs to stop. If this offends you (and I don’t believe it does), I am unapologetic about pointing it out. The OP specifically indicated fear as a member of a specific group in society and I am here to boldly state without apologising for it that that state of fear has been engineered and the only way to resolve it is to replace that vision with objective truth and recognize that they are not isolated from their peers, although there are assholes in every society that will break this rule and that’s the danger of living in society.

I still stand by my advice that Hero Origins is probably the most useful tool in this situation because of the calmness it engenders and the push towards developing principles and virtue, as well as martial skills. If it offends you that I am open and honest about the need for healing in our society and getting past the propaganda that prevents us from letting these subs work optimally for us, well lets just say I have some thicker skin I can offer, to quote Buffalo Bill.

Let’s acknowledge the experience of interacting with others I have passed on and change the topic. What do you think about the potentials of Hero in this situation?

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#19

Na, might disagree in points, but I don’t take offense in discussions. It’s a bit pointless IMO.

I think hardly anyone would disagree with this statement, but it kinda gets around the actual situation we are in. Fear has been engineered - absolutely. (different ways on both sides, would get political, won’t elaborate) But as a result we have rising violent crime against and continuing attempts of dehumanisation of trans folk. That’s something people affected have to deal with in concrete terms.

Philosophically (broadly from an agnostic humanist’s perspective with pantheistic sprinkles) I absolutely agree with you.

Do you want me to get offended? [That was a joke. Sorry if not funny. Germans miss the humor gene.]

I’ve never tried it, reading through copy the growing resilience would be good. Maybe Hero and Sanguine to find emotional ground and ex the fear? Handling the fear as it can be quite paralyzing should be IMO first task at hand.

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#20

That hasn’t been my perspective, and again I’ve spent some time analysing this situation because it impacts people I care about. There needs to be a distinction made between the actions of a vocal minority and the wider perspective. It’s difficult to present a nuanced perspective in a few sentences or without using something like Robert Anton Wilson’s old standard “sombunall”. The situation in the EU may be different from that in the US. I can only speak for the situation in the US because I’ve spent time there. But what I can say with 100% certainty is that the OP can find allies within the conservative community if they can get past the engineering and learn to not just listen but feel and open up to other people on the other side. That doesn’t mean improving personal security by using subs like Hero and ASI is not a good idea, I’m just trying to cut through the appearance of black and white based on what I know. If I can radicalise just one or two people to see the full spectrum rather than being color blind, it’s worth it.

That’s definitely in line with my experience. The problem with the mind control is that it transfers the executive function to an improper area of the brain and restoring proper executive function is critical. Maybe the Executive could be of some assistance too, but i definitely think Sanguine is the first point of call.

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