That was OG RICH. This a different and more expansive product. If you remember, they said that the new RICH could replace EOG1. Well, EOG1 is 100% internal. As far as I understand it, the new RICH is also packed with manifestation scripting.
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My understanding is it has more than OG RICH and it’s upgraded + adds the foundation things to it for the internal side.
It seems that this may in part be a linguistics issue, relating to how you frame the term ‘Internal’.
It’s possible that you may be relating to the term in a way that somewhat contrasts to how Sub Club is using the term.
It’s worth it to consider what you believe will be lost if R.I.C.H. is categorized as an ‘Internal’ program. It seems that your concern is that real-world, concrete, substantive outcomes might be jeopardized?
This is why I, personally, love to go back to the program description. It conveys much more nuance than what can be captured in single-word labels like ‘external’ or ‘internal’.
This is spot-on.
You’ve heard the expression ‘Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day; teach him how to fish and he’ll eat forever’?
Giving a man a fish can be categorized as External.
Teaching him how to fish can be categorized as Internal.
In both cases, the person gets fish.
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The original R.I.C.H. was a short script that was just wealth manifestation. The new R.I.C.H. has that exact same manifestation engine, with a ton of more support scripting to help develop and that ability to attract through resonance. Features such as:
This scripting is “internal,” by its very nature. The title is not “giving you” a wealth vision, it is helping you develop your own. The script is not “giving you” opportunity recognition, it’s helping you recognize the opportunities when they arrive.
People get so stuck on the “manifestation” part while forgetting that they need to have the ability to even recognize when the manifestation is occurring. Hence the need for features such as “Opportunity Recognition Enhancement.” How many people have missed out on opportunities – on especially wealth and romance titles – because they didn’t even recognize that a potentially lucrative situation has even occurred?
A major part of New R.I.C.H. is stabilizing the pathways so that manifestations can even occur seamlessly. All of these things are just as equally important as “raw manifestation.” Inner blockages prevents that natural manifestation process to occur in the first place, and that’s what R.I.C.H. addresses.
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Hey @SaintSovereign ! Following this line, could you talk a bit about the differences between EoG ST1 and RICH?
Like, in terms of how the scripting works and when one would be considered a better approach than the other? Like, what are the main strengths of each one?
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From qOS:
Summary
Both titles spend real effort on the belief layer underneath wealth. Both work to uncover and release scarcity patterns, inherited money stories, financial trauma and unworthiness. Both include gratitude, multiple income streams, investing, and the value of collaboration and partnerships. If your main issue is “I sabotage money when it arrives” or “I don’t feel I deserve it,” either title will address it.
How R.I.C.H. works, and what it looks like from the outside
R.I.C.H. is a single title built around alignment, and its results tend to show up as changes in what you notice and what finds you. Opportunities you’d have walked past become visible: a casual mention turns into a doorway, a conversation carries an invitation you’d previously have missed. Meaningful coincidences pick up in frequency, with the right person, the right information or the right introduction arriving when you need it. Your sense of timing sharpens, so you act when conditions are ripe rather than forcing things early.
From there it opens concrete pathways: promotions, raises and recognition at work; momentum on a business idea; your creative skills starting to earn; aligned partners, mentors and investors entering your orbit; awareness of income that doesn’t need your constant presence.
It also works on how you’re perceived. People start treating you as successful and trustworthy with resources, not because you’ve argued for it but because you carry yourself from abundance rather than scarcity. The final layer is keeping what you make: sealing the leaks, saying no without guilt, and handling the relationships that shift as your prosperity grows.
Its strengths are breadth of pathways, the manifestation and synchronicity engine, and the full arc from attracting money to preserving it. It’s less tactical by design; the page describes it as transformational at the identity level rather than tools-based.
How EoG Stage 1 works
Stage 1 is the foundational stage of a four-stage, skills-based wealth title. The page calls it an “advanced foundational” stage: it revisits the ground that beginner wealth titles cover, but at a higher level and with more granular attention to what actually blocks people. So it does the same healing and belief work, then adds three things R.I.C.H. treats differently.
First, purpose and joy. Stage 1 helps you discover which industries, careers and pursuits genuinely light you up, so your wealth drive has a vision to point at. That’s the title’s whole philosophy: find the gold within first.
Second, practical financial habits. Budgeting, saving, planning and discipline, taught as acts of empowerment rather than restriction, plus a simple framework for turning goals into a plan.
Third, it’s the doorway to the rest of EoG. Stages 2 through 4 move into customer decoding, marketing, sales, data-driven strategy and scaling. Stage 1 is where you get honest with yourself before you pick up those tools.
Its strengths are self-discovery, grounded money habits, and being the first step of a practical masterclass.
When each is the better approach
Choose R.I.C.H. if you already know what you’re building and the problem is that opportunities, timing or momentum aren’t showing up, or that money arrives and doesn’t stay. It’s also the better choice if you want manifestation to be the engine, if you want the widest set of pathways at once, or if you already run a tactical title and want the alignment layer underneath it.
Choose EoG Stage 1 if you don’t yet know what your wealth is for, if your finances are disorganised at the basic level, or if you’re an entrepreneur or career climber who intends to continue into the later stages for concrete skills. It suits someone who wants healing plus structure rather than healing plus manifestation.
Can they be stacked
Yes, and the R.I.C.H. page recommends pairing it with entrepreneurial titles. That said, R.I.C.H. and Stage 1 double up heavily on the belief layer. If you want both, the stronger pairing is usually R.I.C.H. underneath Stage 2, 3 or 4, where EoG supplies the tactics and R.I.C.H. supplies the alignment.
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damn, makes me want to go back EOG1 haha
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@qOS Saint mentioned that RICH is very good for cooperate career, also Genesis Mogul has the rich and wealth path for cooperation career too.
Could you explain and compare the “flavour” of career wealth of R.I.C.H and Genesis Mogul? Which stage in a person career is best use for R.I.C.H or Genesis Mogul?
For EOG st1 & st2, I believe they are best use when you are developing into a career and need to improve and gain the skills. But skills have their ceiling, you cannot keep improving the skills forever, once you master the skills, you need a different path for weath. Is this correct?
Which title is best for a person to intuitively know the career path and success, quickly claimb to higher position and the best income possible? No brainer for keep grinding blindlessly without clear path of success and income. Especially, when the cooperate jobs are changing and very tough nowadays.
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In short:
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So they need to redo it or what
I’ve seen some results from Rich (current version) so I don’t know or compared to og
The way i see it is previous version was manifesting wealth without much personal change.
But the new version is mainly focused around aligning you being with the “wealth” consciousness…
So build up of the new version might take longer but helps you sustain endless wealth for life. It is more about the long run (yet still have the ability to manifest wealth depending on your level in short term too).
Also you wish to create a conflict on purpose or what? 
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Just check my account I am one of the most curious people around here…
And for some reason people might think I’m trying to create drama lol it always amuse me.
99% on this forum I’m open, curious, wanting to learn, wanting to understand and wanting results.
If anything I ever write creates drama it’s a projection of others lol.
Well it did make me think, I mean with other titles some people say the older was better. Here with money manifestations @Plutus actually has proof with screenshots and all
But some people (I never tried the older version of PN) say the older version of PN was better.
To me btw HOM was kicking super super fast including closing deals out of nowhere ( I do have proof) within weeks or days of using HOM.
CC was harder to run. TBH CC might build something greater and so I can’t be sure HOM is better or not. And currently I’m not giving it much thought now because I’m using WB and Stabilizer and trying to figure if I can run KB1.
But if I’d try to go CC route again I sure would do my own experiment 
Just hoping it’s ok I wrote what’s on my mind and not creating a big deal here.
As for Rich I used it very shortly it took a bit of time and I’ve gotten nice result. But I’m not saying anything about og or saying rich did something big in my life.
There are other wealth titles which did. G:M and HOM (before CC came out).
As you said RICH might build something much bigger.
And by the way CC helped me signing and editing a big contact as well. The master mind of CC was very Emperor like and very dominant. Something the last version lacked.
Rich (current version) helped me attract something sustainable and important.
So that’s that.
Still saying recently updated title might need a redo is little bit more than just curiosity imo.
But you do you…
I asked whether it needs a redo; I didn’t state that it does. There’s a difference.
I’ve already said the current RICH gave me a good, sustainable result.
I also pointed that out.
lol ok so we are on the same page man.
Anyhows let’s see what they’ll make of it.
And if it might change things and make them go over other titles.
I’m sure things will get more effective with time.
Already the newer version are so strong we need to micro loops things.
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Better for his circumstances that is. He’s been upfront that he doesn’t need the pathway manifestation or alignment scirpting. Hence pushing for a compromise through the Wealth Manifestation module which is provably a good solution. Regardless it sounds like they’re in active discussions about it.
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Guys relax lmao.
New RICH is amazing and OG RICH is as well.
Their just made for different circumstances which I already shared to @SaintSovereign with my experiences. I’ve had great results with both.
@heartmadeiron described it perfectly:
I love the OG RICH Style Manifestation because I already have a gold mine of a wealth pathway and I just want to maximize as much as possible but NEW RICH is great as well from a foundation standpoint if you’re starting out or don’t have a pathway where you want to make money then it’s good sub to use.
As I mentioned previously, personally I don’t need the foundation, etc because I’ve developed and done the work for years before NEW RICH came out. Saint has seen the tons of PM and screenshots I sent him from how I went from 12k in debt to making 200k per year to the other countless results and development I’ve had in terms of wealth so for someone like me I would rather have pure manifestations hence why I talked about the title or module being something great to have.
But if you’re starting out or don’t know have a pathway to wealth then I’d 100% recommend NEW RICH. I know my pathway, I love it and it’s genuinely my current purpose and I love the work so much that it doesn’t feel like work hence why my experience in different and is what I shared to Saint too.
For a lack of a better example lol, it’s like comparing Synergy: Perfection Manifestation to New WANTED. One is pure manifestations whereas the other one is manifestations + a lot of development to become Wanted. If you run just the manifestation module, you won’t go that far most of the time because a) you either won’t take much action or b) you haven’t had a lot of development in terms of being able to accept those manifestations hence Wanted is better to start of with than just using a manifestation module but if you’re someone like Invictus, Friday, etc who’ve developed so much skills, actions and experiences in those areas than you may have more results just running Synergy: Perfection Manifestation if manifestations is all you care about.
Anyway hope you all enjoyed my novel level post. I’m going to go back to getting stuff done haha.
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Let me clarify this for everyone once and for all, because this is becoming tiresome.
@Plutus is not saying that something is wrong with R.I.C.H. or it needs an update. His idea is being co-opted and distorted. What he is suggesting is a module or title for individuals like himself (and others) who have very clear and stable pathways of manifestation. He is not challenging the concept of pathways of manifestation – and neither should anyone, because it’s such a simple concept that to go against it is to go against common sense. Not to mention, stable pathways of manifestation was a concept in the OG R.I.C.H., we simply emphasized it to make R.I.C.H. more versatile.
The evidence for his argument proves my point – his results are almost solely through boosts in his sales career. And I have to say, seeing his evidence has given me a newfound respect for him, because based upon what I’m seeing, this man busts his ass for his career. If anything, he has proven that having manifestation scripting + a stable pathway of manifestation = incredible results.
If that is the case, why should I remove the very thing that has helped with his success and others? Now, let me make myself clear on this. We shared that tidbit because people like to hear the “behind the scenes” stuff, but if that keeps being distorted, we will no longer share.
The idea he is proposing is sound – for individuals who already have a strong, stable pathway of manifestation, can we release a wealth title or module where the basic to intermediate things are left out so that it can focus solely on the wealth manifestation concept. That is a fair argument and a potential legitimate hole in the Subliminal Club library.
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