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Usually I do my best to be as specific as possible with my reviews, so anyone can understand real, day to day experiences. This one is going to be bit different.
I have been running C&C since launch: 1 min loop first week and 3 mins after.
Previous stack: GLM / BL
Original HOM program was the program that took the most to see it in action:
- within a week, extremely assertive in my communication.
- week 2: personal relationships improving due to increased empathy and laid back communication style
- week 3: planning
- week 4: planning and long term strategising
C&C thoughts
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sharp decrease in overall confidence / verbal fluency and just presence when discussing with C level people. Wrapping up one of the worst business trips in a long time. I would describe my state as “lifeless”. Sounds like recon?
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I miss the way I was positioning myself every discussion. Let’s say discussing bad numbers with someone from my team: while the discussion was around numbers, I always put first the outcome I want of the discussion instead of the “truth of the numbers”. Not the case with C&C, the numbers tell the story and I have a really hard time not to go straight to the point (very emperor like)
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I did start to spend time (even during travels) to consider alternative revenue streams for the future
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overall a “void” type of feeling, reluctance to socialize even in a business context
I definitely miss the “relationship first” mindset that, curiously always translated into good for business and also good for me personally. For me that was the core benefit of running HOM.
I will continue with the program as is for another cycle, but so far it does feel like a completely different sub than original HOM.
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I’m starting this on February 1st. I’ll give an update on March 1st.
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Would the New Social Experience core create good synergy between WDB/C&C in a custom?
They’re both great titles, but they’re very different categories… both have a very strong social undercurrent though and it’s clear that WDB is impacting my socializing as well, considering I’m funnier on sales calls now that I added it in.
NSE/WBD/CC good synergy between these 3? @SaintSovereign
Best week/month of sales since being at the company. C&C while I admit may not have some of the comfortable report building on HoM, it seems to have the same or better ability to attract the perfect leads. Inbound flow has been awesome, and while I don’t build as much rapport, it’s not something that’s really needed in my industry where it’s more professional/consultative and requires strong authority.
Also added in EOG2 to my WDB/C&C stack this week which seemed to stack things into overdrive. Productivity and enjoyment/engagement with my work seemed up this week as well.
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This was 100% my experience running C&C before adding it to ASBR custom this week.
I got this even after 10 seconds of listening. I imagine it’s a mix of sub build and recon. The communication style on it is probably so different that what more verbal/influencing people are used to.
Yes- challenging to ‘fight’ the dominance and even ruthlessness of this
I am starting to completely re-organize and fine-tune my capital structure and how I go about finances- this is the definitely value of this sub, not the social stuff as anymore. Professional, but not the social, except maybe with certain high qaulity people. It doesn’t seem to be a general people sub anymore at all.
Similar as well, although this went completely away on ASBR custom
Agreed, it is 100% different sub IMO. I am glad this sub exists, it feels like a needed niche, and I think we will start to see much stronger results with it for the right reasons. I am starting to see much stronger results in my organization, execution, ‘getting my act’ fully together, etc.
And I feel HOM bridged that gap of wealth and social status like nothing else. And there is a dirth there now. I think there would be an amazing value in just updated HOM tech and having these be different subs. Or Essence: Medicis Influence- and put all the social/transcendental connection, relationship influencing stuff in there.
Props on your awesome results, @Niles, and your breakthrough week/month.
I do love the authority and professionalism this brings, but there are so many industries where it is key, though. That I sub like this could be killer solo with just a little more of what HOM used to have -or ability to toggle for it. Stacking/customs work to resolve this, but when commenting on the sub, it just feels incomplete to me without that missing ability.
And I am continuing to appreciate the non-sales/rapport elements of the sub more and more
I will also the level of professionalism and confidence when it clicks does give access to a different world. Like I’ve always felt comfortable talking to executives, high status people, but always as a charmer, a sigma, an outcast who didn’t care because I brought value and did my own thing. Now I am starting to get a sense of myself as someone who is on par, in their world, with high-status people, executives, there’s this taste of that status and it feels extremely different .
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How’s the authority/assertiveness/presence on C&C?
so the new resuls this week really started when adding EOG2 as well?
Edit: Were you seeing improved inbound on C&C alone prior to EOG stage 2
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Or maybe a two version approach as with ASBR Fame/NoFame.
The OG C&C and the HoM connection style C&C
I’m not running or planning to run C&C, but reading through all your experiences, this seems to me what most people miss from C&C.
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Honestly I haven’t really noticed huge changes in my core personality or how I’m coming off that much with it, I am seeing more changes in my decision making and external results. This actually seems to be common with newer subs. Or maybe it’s authenticity scripting from WDB.
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Yes, was noticing better lead flow and decision making even on C&C, I only did 60 seconds of EOG 2 on Wednesday, but had a really strong last day.
Could be WDB that is helping to bring C&C down to earth. While I haven’t noticed that instant connection/rapport, I also haven’t been getting any defensiveness and lead quality seems to have serious intent and openness.
Also I’m running between 3 and 5 min loops of both titles every other day, adding rest days as needed. Seems to always be my sweet spot.
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Hmm, the subs are very different these days. First off thanks for sharing your experiences.
What I find interesting is that so far, my experience has been very different.
I’m writing this after briefly flirting with a sales woman, just a little light and causal conversation.
I’m stacking with a spiritual custom, index gate, and C&C and have been off all seduction style titles for months now.
So this sub, from what I’ve been reading in this chat, expresses VERY differently depending on the person.
The new tech is very interesting, seems like peoples results are becoming a lot more personalized than they used to be.
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Sounds like adaptive script
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Adaptive scripting.
As for the social aspects of C&C, take a look at the Inner Circle features included. There’s also social scripting that came from New Emperor. This is a title designed to help you create legacy structures. It’s not necessarily about “warmth,” and overall sociability, it’s about helping you become a millionaire. It’s about being effective.
There are two other stack slots available to add additional social features, or you can create a Major Title Name Embed. EoG: True Sell will most certainly be loaded with warmth and rapport scripting. Stack it with C&C to become a powerhouse. The intended use of this title is – C&C is the engine, the power behind the stack. Then you modify it’s expression with other subs. Not enough romance, add a romance title. Not enough social, stack it with True Social.
This is a powerhouse of a title. It just needs to be understood for what it is.
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The adaptive scripting is a game changer. Speed of results on complex modules and concepts has increased. There is no recon on parts of the sub I cant/dont need to take action on. All around very positive.
It feels like I am getting results as fast as @Invictus. Ive had a complete paradigm shift in 2 weeks of running it.
Starting to understand this about C&C. Really cant wait to add RICH Trader into my stack.
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My thoughts on Crown & Capital after 7 days. Yes it is fast acting.
(My use case is for investing & financial markets.)
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The title has shifted my concious thinking faster than any title before. I have gone to sleep and woken up with a completely different mindset that I could immediately sense was a permanent shift in thought.
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Used HOM for about a 2 cycles on different months last year.
I had the exact same results and benefits!
Just in 2-3 weeks instead of 4 weeks.
Same thing.
Didn’t try C&C
I just wanted to validate your review on HOM and say I felt the same
It really helped with planning and with relationships
Best Deal Maker sub I ever used
Confidence was not Alpha like - it was I make the deals and know what to do type of a thing
People noticed but I didn’t need to say something
I wasn’t Alpha on it at all
And it didn’t build a foundation for any of the alpha subs
Just my experience here which I wanted to share
I hope it helps someone
Once I try C&C I’ll report back but I don’t think I will soon
I need to focus of other things now
I bet it could be better
I wait for the new adaptive scripting to be in seduction titles AND to get on the Q store so we can add it as a module to a custom
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I love this Idea of an Essence: Medicis Influence. @SaintSovereign what title we could use today to suplement C&C to get the previous HOM “deal making / strategic relationship first” effects?
I hate you! /s
perfectly said!
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