That works for everything. You can run self-confidence subs for months and not see results if you keep identifying yourself as “shy”.
Same for wealth, dating, health, etc.
You need to start identifying as the final result you want to achieve so the sub can have a better chance of helping you become that state you’re identifying as. Not doing that is when recon hits. The sub tells you one thing but you’re desperately clinging to the opposite beliefs.
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For me, personally, the distinction is semantic. I have experienced work opportunities and advances while using healing subliminals. Ultimately, I ‘learn’ what a given program is about by working with it.
I think words do matter. But I don’t find them to be all-powerful. It feels like it’s what my mind does with them that matters most. I can change the words, or (sometimes) I can change things from the inside without adjusting the words.
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I think the crux of the issue is people who spend years in healing to act upon the belief that they’re broken.
There comes a point where you need to rise above and stop identifying as broken
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I was like that, now zero healing titles, pure action and manifestation of outer results.
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Something I noticed is when I added in Emperor into my stack which already had Regen and Love Bomb
I noticed it was filling in those gaps that those two were clearing away
Would recommend that approach to someone running a healing title
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It’s funny you say that because it was specifically @RagnarLothbrok that I once told to run Emperor when he asked for a healing title !
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Aye, it’s a bloody good title
Feels like the pillar of my stack right now
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If I wasn’t in sales it’d be perfect for me lol
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hahaha , say more?
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@Niles makes Emperor-in-sales work for him somehow, especially because the gym results, and attraction results he gets from it in his (past, sorry bro 
) monogamous relationship are great on it.
I don’t give a fuck about either of those things 
And the types of businesses I want to run, even outside of sales, and the group facilitation work I do are all very people-oriented… I identify as a “leader” more than an “emperor”
So i think it’s more fair to say the archetype really doesn’t suit my ultimate goals. I’m money oriented because I have a love of freedom, not work/success.
HOM/C&C certainly suit me, ASBR does if I want periods of having that intense level of drive.
Honestly I just wish Chosen was complete, covering romance and wealth and drive and masculinity the way emperor does, but towards the goal of leadership not empire building, and it’s be my ideal archetype
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I finally had the time to catch up with this thread…
Yes, that’s what I did.
My assumption was that new EoG 1 would act like old EoG 1, i.e. like a radical wealth limitations remover instead of a light healing title.
Now I know that my assumption was wrong, good that this is clarified now.
I was not perceiving new “EoG 1” as a “healing” title until Saint explained it a few days ago.
Because “healing” is for me a different thing than “removing limiting beliefs and roadblocks”.
I was expecting a strong wealth roadblocks removal title on a Total Breakdown level, and that didn’t work out for me as expected because my financial worthiness baseline and ceiling have not moved at all.
I guess, I should have stayed on ASBR or do more Total Breakdown instead.
I am switching over to EoG 2 now, let’s what that it does.
I don’t get it either in that wealth context either.
My previous assumption and experience has been:
Financial healing = feeling worthy of more → baseline and ceiling move upwards → automatically manifest a more wealthy life → additionally, I am inspired to take more action because I feel that I deserve more
This chain reaction has worked for me with Total Breakdown and ASBR, but not with new EoG 1 and G:M, hence I have no clue how “healing” is supposed to be viewed here?
Shouldn’t the healing process move the baseline and ceiling too?
“The Worthiness Recalibration” has not shifted anything here for me that I would be aware of.
Neither did this effect happen for me.
However this one is tricky, because I personally never have any passion for the road to travel, but only for the actual end result. Hence my personal focus on rather “manifesting” instead of “building”.
This is a question I still have as well.
Yes, I get this.
And you have for sure much more data available whether a title is more effective than its previous version.
From how I understood the copy’s of EoG and G:M these are rather neutral/universal though and do not come with a particular archetype?
I am trying to understand what the particular reasons are for my personal experience here.
I am always judging a title’s effectiveness from own personal experience.
And also because some titles work super well for me regardless of having a large experimental stack.
Hence why my G:M experience makes no sense to me…
If some heavy titles like ASBR do work even in large stacks, then shouldn’t light neutral titles do so as well?
It is a mystery… 
Good points.
I have now switched over to EoG 2.
Looking forward how it will play out for me.
Maybe, I didn’t get much results from EoG 1 because I already love money from the deep of my heart?
But then on the other hand, I still don’t feel like I am worthy to be a Millionaire, and that would imply that I still have lot’s of limiting beliefs to remove…
Or ought I go to EoG 3 for the “The Millionaire’s Mindset”?
Or let KHAN Total Breakdown do the financial work with the help of conscious guidance?
I have to admit that I didn’t took any particular action on EoG 1.
Why?
Because my assumption has been that “I will automatically take action once more limiting beliefs are removed and I am inspired to chase after more money”.
Unfortunantely, that didn’t happen.
EoG 1 never generated any push for me to do anything really.
No new found passion, no new found purpose, no “Expanding the Horizons of Possibility”…
Not even recon.
This might also be a reason why ASBR works so well for me, i.e. because it lifts my lazy ass off the couch and pushes me to take action.
While on EoG 1, I was passively waiting for the sky to move as a result of an internal financial perception shift…
With ASBR on the other hand, I am not passively waiting until I one day can “expand myself”, no, with ASBR I am excited to expand and imagine what lies beyond the horizon!
My frustration with new EoG 1 comes only from me not noticing any changes in how I feel about my wealth deservingness and worthiness baseline and ceiling and having wasted time following false assumptions. So if this all comes as a vent, it is because I hate wasting time on something that does not give me the highest possible ROI. I repent not sticking with ASBR.
My wealth ceiling is that I don’t feel worthy of being a Millionnaire right now.
My net worth has been pretty much constant over the last 12 months.
In this case, I think I should really run RoW as you recommended.
“Disruptive” seems the way to move forward for me as most of my internal healing that happened I have to give thanks to Total Breakdown, new Regeneration, new GLM and new EE.
Would RoW be the closest wealth-equivalent to Total Breakdown?
And a final point, to finish off this topic here, something that still kinda frustrates me is, I remember when new EoG was released, I asked whether there is money manifestation scripting inside the new EoG and it was said that it is inside all wealth titles and stages.
However, there were only a few wealth manifestations from new EoG 1 and from G:M, and those manifestations were rather small – which means that I cannot run these wealth titles without also always running RICH ZP V2 along side them… because in these cases the existing NWE scripting inside those titles (EoG & G:M) seems to simply not be strong enough for me in order to constantly manifest money out of the blue (like RICH does). If I look at my journal and the tracked results, usually, NWE is responsible for the small manifestations, while RICH is responsible for the big manifestations. This comparison makes it hard for me to always have faith into NWE. With NWE, sometimes literally nothing happens for many weeks, so that scripting is yet far away from “daily positive manifestations”.
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This was something I struggled with for a long time, and still do have challenging beliefs there.
A good question I ask myself, is what would, if it were true, make me feel worthy of millions? Or why don’t you feel worthy? Reflect on it.
You can also look at other people or role models who you do view as worthy, and ask what traits, services, or characteristics make you view them as worthy, that you are lacking.
When you have a solid idea of what those things are, just go do them until you do feel worthy.
Something that has helped me with this process recently, is that realizing truly ingrained beliefs are simply decisions. We have, because of our past expieriences, decided that we are not worthy, not successful, etc. To change that all you really have to do is have awareness over those beliefs, have some counter evidence against why it is 100% true, and then decide on a new belief that does serve you.
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This for some reason brought to my mind a joke about a man who came to the gates of heaven, after passing away in a flood.
He was waiting for a miracle to save him, so he ignored all the help like the boat and the helicopter. But those were the miracles that were sent to him.
Just a theory of mine, but healing should be done in cycles. When you “heal” something, it leaves a vacuum. You need to fill it with the correct action taking.
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There’s a huge disconnect between your current situation and being a millionaire. Assuming you weren’t born into a wealthy family.
A self made man is one who has been taking a lot of action. He knows he’s worth it, because he is being a self made man. He’s not thinking about becoming one. He just is.
Edit: Can’t form coherent thoughts… My second kid was born on Sunday and here I am, semi-asleep writing on the forum after feeding him (early morning here).
So I apologize for my ramblings, if they don’t make any sense.
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Congratulations!
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And a valid one, I’d say.
Once the plaster cast is gone , you need to learn to walk again, build muscle etc.
That’s why in multi stagers healing is the first stage and the following stages build up.
In my experience it’s always a question if you need to substract something (healing a trauma) or add something (learn a skill).
So, taking wealth as a example, do you have limiting beliefs that need to be removed?
Or do you need to build a specific skillset to succeed?
Since it’s often both, multi stagers address both in this order.
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Yoooo congrats bro!
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Yes I remember 
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@Niles gives absolutely stellar advice
I love Dr. John DeMartini’s take on this
Just write a list of 200 reasons why you deserve to be a (millionaire/financially indepedent/whatever your goal is), why it will benefit your life, and why the world/ your family/ community will be a better place if you’re a millionaire.
It will take hours, you’ll likely hit a wall and need to keep digging and if you do it right you will get a tear in your eye or even cry and you’ll never question it again (not accounting for autism spectrum or neuro-divergence), and start seeing the world in a very different way.
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