Yeah that’s the thing, I’m not a patient person either 
If I’m not wrong, HERO might come out either April or a similar time as WANTED (mid may), so I could probably do 2 cycle of St3 + St4 till then 
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are you starting fitness subs again btw?
also, what do you reckon would be better from the following:
- St3 then st4
- st4 straight way
- st3 + st4
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Yes I am. I’m doing Spartan and Paragon for my first listening day and Emperor Fitness ST1 on the second.
Since you have used ST3 in your custom I feel like you could start off with ST4 and have no issues. Last time I listened to EF I went from ST1 to 3 so I probably could do the same but I wanted to see how effective ZP is by starting from ST1 again.
If you would have food to eat you wouldn’t be so bitchy!
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Okay so yesterday I tested EF st3 at 2 loops, before my workout, here are the things that happened/I noticed:
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significantly better pumps, all my gym friends commented on it, asking me if I started using a new pre workout
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I feel NO soreness at all today, and I went harder than usual yesterday.
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I weigh .6kg more than yesterday (weighed right after waking up and going to the bathroom).
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muscles seem fuller and feel much denser than before the loops.
St3 is probably worth the whole price of this sub I mean, this sub is cheaper than a lot of the PEDs in the black market.
My plan with EF is as following:
- cycle 1 and 2: bulk with st3
- cycle 3 (and maybe 4): cut with st2
- cycle 4 (maybe) and onwards: grow while maintaining a low body fat with St4.
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Man i really wish we had some information on HERO. This sub sounds hella appealing, but without knowing what HERO will be about, and how it differs, itll be hard to make any kind of descision for wich one im gonna buy.
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Or or or
You can do what I’m planning to:
First I do ME, Stark and EF st3,
Then AsC would replace ME,
Then EF st4 will replace st3,
Leading to my stack basically being AsC, Stark + EF st4,
So basically 2 major titles, and guess what would be the third 
?
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So umm
I’m at the gym for the 2nd time today 
I have observed so many things today from EF st3, I’m convinced that my test levels have gone to steroidal levels
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i remember feeling so strong on st 4 that i kept hesitating to ask here if i would fail a steroid drug test due to it’s power and always felt like i was cheating cuz everyone thought i was on roids
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I have a blood test left to do xD
I could run St3 and do a blood test for testosterone 
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Okay so imma write all the effects that lead to the aforementioned hypothesis;
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Beard is definitely darker and thicker overnight.
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Feeling extremely masculine (more than emperor tbh).
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Was too sexually aggressive today, my girl fell while we were walking after I had a DJ session with her kitty.
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Feeling bigger overnight and my weight went up by .6kg.
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My voice is deeper.
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I’m extremely motivated to the point where I went gym twice, and gave it my 110% both times.
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My erections feel stronger.
All this from EF st3.
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To be honest when the man told his results I was like “yeah, maybe I should dowbload it before SaintSovereign lowers the power of EF”
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Haha, I’m in the middle of an EF right now, but it’s not quite the fitness talked about here. (For more details, see my journal)
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I’m glad I downloaded it! 
I’m not running it anytime soon.
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No link? I’ve read part of it when you tagged me in!
Honestly, the best things about EF is that you can use the stages based on your needs, instead of running it like the other multi-stagers.
Also, why not EF2 if your goal is losing weight first ?
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Yes. It’s not like everyone will achieve all their Fat Loss goals in 45 days on EF2, and should move on to the next file.
Each stage deserves as long as one needs.
Sedentary old man issues. Need to get the necessary patterning and routines first.
My interest is not in isolated bodybuilding style exercises. Its all functional & rotational work with clubbells and kettlebells.
Jumping straight on EF2, I’ll risk pulling muscles everywhere doing extreme strength-endurance training.
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