its interesting because for me its having the opposite effect.
im a very strong respondant to libertine ultima.
it worked from day 1 and its been amazing for me.
but i have grown to like primal ultima more and these recent reviews are making me more and more on side of primal.
these reviews mentioning how social libertine ZP is are bad for what im looking for,
this softer social side of libertine is why i ended up liking primal more.
the best way i can describe it is libertine is “omg this guy is so hot”…and primal is “omg i want this guy to bend me over and fuck the shiet out of me in the bathroom”
there is a sexual intensity with primal that libertine does NOT have and seems libertine ZP is even more soft.
so for me when i get back to clubbing it will for sure be primal ZP i test first.
libertine ultima was already too soft for what im looking for, i want the sexual intensity not the soft/chill social vibe.
Edit = i can see why they made libertine ZP like this though. i see what the creators are trying to accomplish. this will result in more girls approaching you. this true social like vibe added to libertine will make girls make the first move which i know a lot of guys want. i see why they decided to make it like this. but again for me that raw sexual intensity is way more fun.