When did you start to get results with it? Did you run the name embedded?
Pretty quickly actually, in the first cycle. I didn’t understand recon back then so it would be results but followed by harsh recon
Store title first two months then customs since
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Have you written a review of it so far?
No actually, I still feel like I have work to do on it before I feel ready to fully review it 
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lol ok no pressure
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DRR3 30m WB 8s
I took a little break from the forum to stop myself from spilling any more than necessary.
WB is great.
I’m starting to adapt & get used to its results.
I was amazed, but nowadays, the results seem normal. It’s just a part of my daily life.
I can’t believe how well this super short exposure has been working so far.
This is the last day of my cycle. 15 on 5 off.
I’m sure I’m ready to take the 8s this time.
If not, I have 5 days’ worth of washout to reset.
The burst of recon from DRR3 has died down.
It was weird, but it could be from 10s (7+3s) of WB too.
I’m kinda missing HeO.
The drop from taking a break from it is significantly better than the first time I took one back then.
Something clicked when I ran HeO this year, and the effects are not leaving as quickly when I take a break from it again now.
I’d love to include it in my stack again soon, but I gotta maximize my limited time with DRR3.
I only have 6 months to use it before i switch to DRR4 for a year.
I want as much focus on it as possible.
DRR3 is that good.
Good enough for me to take another extended break from HeO.
It hits straight to where I need it the most.
Update 1:
I think WB’s fashion sense scripting is indirectly affecting my creativity.
I’ve been adding some little touches to my living space, and now everything looks a lot more pleasant, even with just a few touches.
This feels like how WB affects my fashion sense, but instead of what I wear/how I look, it’s affecting how I modify my surroundings.
Update 2:
The “not clicking” from 8s is gone.
I’m ready for 9s next cycle.
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I can confirm that 8s is clear now.
It took almost a month, but i was able to get it done finally.
Taking it this slow is the right move, if i could do it all over again, i’d stick with this spaced out slow increment.
I’m not sure if i’m ready for 10s yet.
Well, i know i am, but not without a bit more recon than i’m willing to deal with.
I have been getting consistent & better results using shorter playtime anyway.
There’s no incentive to push too much too quickly.
Update 1:
I think I understand why i got the feeling of “not connecting”.
Nowadays, instead of feeling that something is not connecting, it feels clear.
But I got new signals/intuitions that follow some of my actions, and I don’t know how to interpret it.
Should I continue with what I’m doing?
Should I stop? change?
It feels like I have my own internal mentor, and it has been an interesting streak of self discovery.
I learned to stop when one comes, then I learned to change when the other new signal shows up, but there is one that I’m still not sure about. So far, I think it tells me more about what’s happening than what to do.
There is still a lot to experiment with, but at least I’m standing on firm ground, rather than being lost in the cloud of “not connecting” as before.
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About the kitchensinking
I think it makes a huge difference if you’re disciplined enough to tinker with these quantum loops of less then 10 seconds or not.
Looking at most WB question threads, people with no base run WB with short loops of 3-8 minutes.
And then they complain about recon and no results.
Given, you’re very sensitive to subs. I need to run subs mostly for at least a cycle to feel a change. Recon as well creeps up over time, without being obviously disturbing.
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I feel like it also depends on the subliminals chosen,making 2 customs 1 with Ascended mogul + Paragon and another with spartan and Lots at microloops shouldnt be a problem
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I should have included the examples too, since I was thinking about WB, LBFH & RM:UWX.
With all 3 of them, I felt the focus was yanked away from my main goals, but when i dropped WB to <7s, LBFH to ~5m, and not using full loops for RM:UWX, I felt the focus was stabilized; much easier to integrate into my life.
WB is one example, but it’s also the one that made me aware of this the most.
Yeah, it’s either no result, or the results take the focus away too much.
That’s true. I often think people have similar experiences with how noticeable subs are, but even my friends who are using SC aren’t as sensitive as I am.
Yeah, I’m using 30m of DRR3 now besides WB, not a problem at all.
It depends on the sub.
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The effects are not “dipping” as quickly in this washout period.
Something in WB has clicked and is giving me a more lasting change.
DRR3 is still working well.
I’m still in the process of adapting to what it has been guiding me towards.
It’s my favorite of the three stages since it fits my healing goals the best, but it does require the foundation laid by the previous two.
Update 1:
This is the next day.
I finally got the dip.
So the threshold increased from 2 to 4 days of not using WB.
This is either a good progress, or 15 on 5 off is better than 11 on 4 off at retaining the active effects from the super short WB runs. Could be both.
I still prefer shorter loops, this cycle feels like it was getting closer to subtle overload symptoms territory. But it was not as bad as when i used more than 13 on 5 off a year ago.
I’ll work with increasing my WB sweetspot until i can use more rest days & shorter cycles again. Now, it still needs more listening frequency to maintain the results.
Update 2:
OH IT FUCKING CLICKED.
Took me long enough, but now I understand this is what WB is leading me towards.
A deep introspection about my actions showed me a clear hint.
If I’m right, then DRR3 is exactly what I need for WB.
I’m starting to see how WB can conflict with LBFH if WB’s foundation is not set yet.
I’m also starting to notice how much LBFH has changed me, it’s as if I’ve had this thought pattern my whole life, when in fact, i just established it 1-2 years ago.
The results are so potent & natural. It’s also long lasting.
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How do I explain the “click”…
It’s a part of WB’s “mysteriousness” that I thought would conflict with my cheerful nature, but it’s actually just a tool I can use to express my nature in a different way.
It’s still the same me, but expressed differently.
It doesn’t replace
it adds tools to my arsenal
it gives me more options
and it teaches me how to use them.
I feel like I’ve written this before, but the depth & variety of the understanding is different.
I might not gonna phrase this accurately, but it’s as if I’m given the opportunity to use another tool instead of sticking/clinging/staying with the one I’m using.
Rather than sticking to using scissors, I’m becoming more aware & adept at noticing how I can use a wire cutter instead.
They both cut, but a wire cutter is more appropriate for some situations than scissors.
The wire cutter doesn’t replace the scissors; it just adds more options that I can use.
I’m not replaced just because there is a wire cutter; it’s still me who controls the tools.
The experience of using WB is like discovering that I have a wire cutter in my toolbox all along, and having a wire cutting expert(lol) that guides me on how to use it.
Sometimes it feels weird to use a wire cutter, but once I get used to it, it becomes clear why it’s better to use it. I can still use the scissors if I want to, but the wire cutter does the job better.
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Hell yeah!
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Oh…
Glad to see that I don’t need to be overly cautious around using WB in addition to my stack.
I’ll lift the 10s limit for this cycle, but if I spot any recon, WB is going out first.
I was confused whether “no recon” means “no recon at all” or just “no intrusive recon”.
Then I reread the post and found this.
As long as I deem it “minimal”, which should be between “0 recon” and “noticeable recon”, I should be fine to stay/move forward.
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DRR3 1m15s HeO 38s
Reading the results from HLB is really testing my patience.
But I gotta focus on DRR first. Next year I’ll finally be able to run it.
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It doesn’t seem like we can change our name any time soon, so I’ll start deleting any mention of WB in my journal.
Those who want to read it, already did anyway.
IC: Brotherhood is squarely in my radar.
I might drop WB for it when it’s released.
RM:UA is also enticing.
I’ll stop using HeO once RM:UA is out since it has the anti-recon.
Once LE & HeO are all updated, I’ll start making customs.
EE 30s
Impulse buy on my rest day, lol.
I want to see how it feels before the update.
I kinda didn’t think much about how EE will fit into my cycle, I guess HeO has to go.
Now that I think about it, if EE is gonna be updated within the next 2 weeks, I can go straight to the new schedule without taking a washout. That’s a nice bonus.
DRR3 2m45s EE 32s WB 9s
3 months of WB this run. More than half a year total.
Great effects so far, I try to hold back writing on the forum as everything will just be a repeat of what I’ve already written multiple times. Most of them are similar in concept, but different in depth & variety.
I feel ready to go to 10s. It has been 3 months, there’s no way I can’t use 10s yet.
I decided to stick with low exposure for a long time, but I got everything I wanted from WB anyway, so there was no push to risk recon by going higher.
I’m gonna bank on the chance that the update for either EE or WB will come soon.
EE is more likely since it is the second sub on the list of new subs this season.
So I will trial using longer cycles. A month first before a washout, then two months after this cycle.
I forgot there’s Emperor in Emperor: Executive.
That means this is my first ever Emperor title.
I’m excited to see how Emperor will affect me.
Update 1:
By far the worst procrastination I’ve done so far.
I played a game for the first time in idk how long.
I missed my 2 month long study streak.
I scrolled twitter for hours on end.
I didn’t do as much at work.
Workout neglected, qigong forgotten, no meditation done.
Moral of the story: Don’t neglect the rest day in between listening days, lol.
Update 2:
I can’t sleep.
It has been so many hours.
I wasn’t productive and i’m not sleeping.
Don’t neglect rest days, rofl.
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More reasons to stick with DRR.
I want to use it longer, but I want to use HLB too.
This has been something in the back of my mind when planning for subs.
With where healing titles are going, it makes more sense to stick with DRR4 first while waiting for the update, then repeat the whole multistager again when it is updated. After everything is done, then I’ll start HLB.
It will delay my plan to use HLB by 1-2 years, but I want to use DRR longer anyway, might as well double down and do it thoroughly before the switch.
DRR3 3m EE 34s WB 10s
First time reaching 10s of WB.
I’ll increase the duration by +1s every 3 listening days this cycle, then every 2 after this one.
I should have replaced WB with EE instead of HeO, both WB & EE are gonna get updated soon anyway, so they both serve the same purpose in the stack. I still miss the focus from a stack of pure productivity.
But I’d be damned if i change my stack again this cycle. I can’t do that, so i’ll just roll with what i got and make it work.
EE for when I work.
WB for rest time.
DRR to boost everything.
It’s the same strategy, but I wonder how WB will interact with EE compared to HeO.
I probably could use EE for longer than 34s since i can run LE for 15m just fine, but there’s no need to rush the process. The microloop process i’ll follow (+2s until 1m, +4s until 3m, +8s until 7m, straight to 15m) will take at least a bit more than 5 months, excluding the resets along the way.
There is plenty of time to take things slow.
Idk when to slot in HeO again though, I’ll probably just stick with this stack to maintain consistency. HeO won’t be updated this season anyway. It has no NSE nor the new tool based scripting, so i think the chance of it being a surprise update would be slim too.
I’ll just reintroduce it to the stack alongside the customs, either next year or the year after that.
From my run with HeO last cycle, i realized that when it “clicked” a few months earlier, i found out how to live & maintain the effects i couldn’t previously even without the sub. It’s now closer to how LBFH has changed me so much to the point where i don’t really need to use the sub anymore to maintain it.
I’m still interested in growing with HeO, but i’ll keep it for later down the line.
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