I’ve never heard of that conscious mind stuff. I will do that
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She started again this week.
Same as before, and she’s on the “I love you but I’m not in love with you” and “you ruined our marriage and I have to really work on forgiving you”
What do you think I should play for her and me?
She says that 3 years ago, I cheated because I asked about her interest in a threesome with another woman, who is a friend of ours.
She said she would with another man, just before I asked about a woman, but that isn’t cheating I guess.
Btw, I wouldn’t do either, it was during dirty talk, I was merely prying to see what she was into. Backfired, and is coming back to haunt me.
I need her trust and love back
Hs helped you last time. Maybe do the thing that worked before?
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Lol man this is not cheating you hadn’t had sex with her and you said she would with another man and i think this situation is problematic i dont know what to says actually, but i think what she does is not fair.
Have a good day
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Second on HS. But also LB. Was just talking with someone else this morning who mentioned the new forgiveness scripting:
We’ve also included scripting to help you develop strong authentic love for the self through deep forgiveness of yourself and others. This narrative is not a permission slip for past hurts to perpetuate; rather, it is a guide to uncovering, through your unique consciousness, the power of accepting one’s history. It enables the shedding of past burdens and the transmutation of negative energy, all while equipping you with the wisdom and discernment to face forthcoming chapters.
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It’s definitely not cheating. I can’t believe she made that jump, but she literally said that.
I can’t even say I never imagined it, because she said “my gut is never wrong, and I know you did”
And I didn’t imagine it. I did between her and my wife, but never me. I would never do anything to another woman, I have no interest in that at all.
Oh my gosh, that’s what I need.
How can I get this new version? I have Love Bomb
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Should just be a simple download from the downloads area.
The new version has been out for a little over two years now, it’s gained ‘justified and ancient’ status 
Hey man
I think your problem is more fundamental than your subconscious mind, and if one doesn’t have a proper psychological balance, they cannot make proper decisions in life. These things that you’re asking about, should be fundamentally decided by you rather than forum members. Your wife was&is giving you a hard time despite the fact that you were running emperor (I don’t know about now) you were worried too much about her and had an emotional attachment, which emperor can help with, but you should have that self-esteem in you before zero point brings that out.
I don’t even know if you’d be able to execute heartsong properly at this, you definitely might, but staying with it is another challenge. If you don’t have the necessary balance, after sometime you’ll get the sub hopping recon and will just go for emperor’s dominance without being able to utilize it or it with heartsong properly.
So I suggest you start running heartsong/primal romance, but also go to a mental health advisor and pick up a spiritual practice.
I was a subliminal club fanatic, I was thinking these subs are the end game and they’ll fix me. But If I had to choose between my spiritual practice and subliminals, without a doubt I will pick spirituality, I think even the co founders of this company will do the same. Spirituality saved my life.
And when one reaches the necessary psychological balance, their subclub journey become beautiful. Result pour in seamlessly, mind becomes fluid, just beautiful.
In my opinion anyone who comes on this forum and ask these kind of questions that not everyone asks, these personal questions where other who get great subliminal results never ask because they have the necessary clarity and balance.These people including you, do not have the necessary psychological health. Or people who get in trouble with their surroundings when they run subliminals, they always had trouble, but they just couldn’t act on it.
So I don’t want to offend you in anyway or say ok you’re this or this, no, we are all products of our circumstances, so no shame and no pride. It is what it is, and let’s do something about it.
So my advice, going to a mental health advisor/therapist, and pursuing spirituality at the same time.
Please don’t ask me what spiritual path should you take, because that’s for you to find and I don’t want this forum to think I’m fanatic about a specific teacher or tradition. Just start by finding, it can be illegitimate, but it’s a start, and monitor your mental health.
Peace and best wishes to you.
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I need some help again.
I think the main thing that I need is a few things:
My confidence back
Making her see that I’m a man. Somehow I feel like she’s forgotten that.
But I can’t have whatever I listen to make me aggressive or mean, she’s constantly saying I’m mean or rude.
My friend. Am sorry to say this but I think the relationship is over. No amount of trying will bring back that feeling once it is over.
You need to accept her loss of desire for you, separate and start over again learning from your mistakes and level up.
As it is trying to get someone to love you after that love is lost, comes from a position of neediness and seeking her validation.
Am not saying it will be easy breaking up but you have to accept it and allow the process to take place.
Grieve a bit. But pick yourself up after that and go to work on yourself.
Run Love Bomb to help forgive her and yourself and move on with your life instead of trying to repair a broken thing that cannot be made whole.
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But she was just telling me about a 10 year vow renewal 4 years from now in Hawaii.
I asked her last night if she’s ever scared that I’ll leave her and she started to cry and said yes because I’m crazy and I told her I would never leave her, I love her more than anything and she’s so special. And she said she thinks she self sabotages herself. But I think I made her feel a little better
I didn’t know she felt that way
Run a stack of Heartsong + Primal Romance + Divine Diamond. If there is any stack for a monogamous relationship, that will be it.
EDIT: you could also try Wanted Dream Boy solo. I think it will highlight you being your self without being maan. Relaxing you into your most attractive self.
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Thank you so much.
I think we’re both worn out. Overwhelmed. We have 4 kids, 6, 3, 3, 1 and she’s 7 months pregnant. She homeschools.
Her mom died a few months before the twins.
Tons of money was given.
Tons was found.
She was accused of stealing the money in her own bank account by her siblings.
We gave $100,000 to them so they wouldn’t sue us.
We started a business 2.5 years ago that we can’t get a single sale for and spent at least $100,000 on.
That’s just a little bit of it.
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I’ll check out Wanted Dream Boy.
How would you do the stacks? Like 2 Monday, Wednesday, Friday? 1 Tuesday and Thursday?
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Check the link here:
https://instructions.subliminalclub.com/
Read through it until you get to section 2.2 Listening Pattern
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Hey brother, damn… this all hits heavy. Four kids, one on the way, homeschooling, her mom’s passing, family money drama, business stress, you’re both running on empty, and it’s no wonder things feel so raw.
Heartsong has helped you before, so sticking with that is smart. Pairing it with Wanted Dream Boy could bring back that natural confidence and presence she’s missing, without coming off mean. Throw in Primal Romance or Divine Diamond for the steady loving vibe. Keep the stack light at first.
But man, I gotta say it straight: this runs deeper than subs alone can fix. Years of built-up hurt, trust issues, resentment, you both need real tools. A good couples counselor (or even just one for you) could help unpack it without exploding, especially with the kids in the mix. It’s not weakness, it’s leading your family through the storm. Therapy + subs + small steady actions (calm presence, self-care) have turned things around for a lot of guys here.
She’s still crying over you leaving and mentioning vow renewal, there’s something worth fighting for. You’ve got this. Rooting hard for you all. Keep us posted.
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@jshep23 : One of your main issues is that you won’t stop jumping from sub to sub. With the deep rooted issues that you have, any sub needs time to help you work through that.
Sorry if this comes across the wrong way but your wife can’t see what’s not there.
Everything you wrote points to Emperor. Or to Emperor Reforged. Or Ascension. Just pick one and only one and stay with it for at least one year.
Dude, your family life is in shambles and has been for a long time, if AI remember correctly. And you have 4 kids. What the f*ck do you need Dream Boy for?
What your family needs is a strong leader. Right now you’re not that. Maybe you’ve never been.
Go back and read your own words. 
How is any of this 
conducive to building a strong family unit?
Start by earning that trust and love and man up!!!
You’re going in a circle. I would have said you run HoM but that sub is gone now.
In my opinion, pick Emperor or Emperor: Reforged and stay with that one sub for at least year. Find your own sovereignty and f*cking learn how to lead. You have A WIFE AND FOUR KIDS!!!
Pick one good all around sub and stay the course!!! Instead of trying to play around with Dream Boy or shit like that, when you have four kids watching watching you mess up in real time.
What your wife and kids need is a husband and father. Not some dream boy. A husband and a father. Go be that.
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My suggestion.
Summertime + Emperor: Reforged. Here’s a qOS regarding the issue (but again, trust your own instincts and perform a resonance check: New Support Article: Resonance and Alignment Checking)
First, it’s worth being clear about how these two work, because it shapes what they can and can’t do here. Both Summertime and Emperor Reforged work entirely on you — your presence, your reactions, your inner state. Neither one reaches into your partner or guarantees a particular outcome for the relationship. What they can do is change your half of the dynamic, and because a relationship is something two people create between them, changing your half can genuinely shift the whole thing. Sometimes that’s exactly what was needed. Sometimes it brings clarity instead. Both are valuable.
Here’s what each tends to bring to a strained relationship.
Emperor Reforged works on the patterns that quietly erode relationships from the inside. It develops the capacity to stay present in conflict without collapsing or hardening, to listen without disappearing into the other person, and to love without abandoning yourself — desire without neediness, warmth without weakness. If the relationship has been running on you either over-giving and losing yourself, or bracing and going cold, Reforged helps you find the steadier middle: grounded, warm, and able to have the hard conversations without your center wobbling.
Summertime works on the temperature. Failing relationships often go tense, heavy, and defensive, with both people braced for the next conflict. Summertime helps release that low-grade vigilance and brings back warmth, ease, and genuine presence — actually landing on your partner when they speak instead of half-defending, and letting lightness and even fun back into a dynamic that’s gone grim. Warmth is often the thing that quietly left first.
Together, they’re complementary: Reforged gives you the grounded, non-reactive center, and Summertime gives you the warmth and presence to meet your partner from it. The likely shift is that you stop showing up either needy or walled-off, and start showing up steady and warm — which can interrupt the conflict spirals that failing relationships get stuck in.
A few honest things
- These change how you show up. They can’t make your partner do their part, and a relationship takes two. If your partner is willing, your shift can open real space for things to improve. If they aren’t, the same work will help you see that clearly and hold steady through it.
- They may bring clarity as much as repair. Reforged in particular sharpens discernment.
- They’re not a substitute for the actual relational work. For a relationship that’s genuinely failing, real conversations matter, and couples counseling can be worth considering. Think of these titles as steadying and warming you so you can do that work from a better place — not as a replacement for it.
- They’re gradual. A relationship in crisis may also need more immediate, real-world steps; let the titles support those rather than waiting on them alone.
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Dude, I’m sorry to hear about your situation. Tough probably doesn’t quite describe it.
The good news is that you got the power of your subconscious that you are working on, as well as some blunt things to consider in this thread.
As you are reading this, I want to be clear that I’m guessing there are some deeper things you might need to consider and work towards, so what I’m giving here are ideas for you to consider. I must add that pheromones are not intended to replace any heavy work you may have to do. Rather, I find they can help me gain more respect and augment any work I’m already doing. Having said that:
- If I were in your situation, I would read books by John Gottman. As far as I’m concerned, he is THE expert on marriage. His ideas are backed by science.
The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work by John Gottman PhD
Ten Lessons to Transform Your Marriage: America’s Love Lab Experts Share Their Strategies for Strengthening Your Relationship by John Gottman Ph.D.
- Again, this is something I might use if I was in your situation with the hope it would support the deeper work that likely has to be done.
The product is called XiSt spray for men.
This testimonial is from the PheromoneXS website:
(I think this is on the second page of testimonials)
"Im 22 with pregnant girlfriend that was on the verge of breaking up with me and moving to a different state, ultimately because of her horomones causing her to freakout…she was saying she didnt feel any emotional connection with me. It broke my heart to hear that as i truly love her.
So i combatted her horomones…with pheromones ;] and using Xist has completely…reset her perception of me!!! Now she cant stop talking about moving into a bigger house with eachother…she says she feels so connected to me!!! Steve O… i love you bro you have a formula that can save a family.
I will be using Xist for a very long time…will switch to oil once summer hits."
[Moderator Note: I did edit the testimonial to comply with our Campfire Policy.]
If you are in Europe, here is their European site:
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