Which title is pure “fearless alpha”?

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#45

Do you know them in their personal lives or are you’re just going by what you see on TV which is pretty much a persona that they created? Being an ass make you alpha?

Is there anyone who is really scared of those dudes that behave like a-holes and walk around looking tough? Maybe if you’re a weak person you’d be “scared” of those guys but weak men are scared of everything anyway.

That can very well be true for immature and traumatized girls. I know some of them.
Maybe in the Western world, I’m not sure where you live. There are entire cultures in this world where the nice guy with great social skills and who is respected by other men is what women are looking for. I have lived in places where looking scary won’t get a date. As a matter of fact, on the whole African continent and in many places in the Middle East, walking around looking scary and projecting a “I’ll punch you in the face” vibe is the very thing that will keep you single for a loooooooong time. On the other hand, be a nice dude who is approachable, who has great social skills and who can command high levels of respect, and you could become a woman magnet. The single one biggest womanizer I have met in my life was that type of dude.

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#46

Valid.

You’re right

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#47

Again trying to twist what I´ve said.

Anybody said something different?

Ahh fuck it, waste of time.
Have a good one.

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#48

Okay let’s step back a bit, this was never against you personally; you just happen to hold a popular perspective and I wanted to say mine.

Absolutely nobody is twisting what you said, when people approach the subject of scariness vs humility most default to setting an instant bad and good on then respectively, I’m saying that the game of nuance which involved you saying “it’s only right when you need to do it”

Which could be a way to look at it but because I am devil’s advocate here I will say that the constant tip toeing around the subject of being fearsome and calling names is not the approach we should take

“First become a monster then tame it” is my stance here, rather than “be scary only when X because that’s honorable” which doesn’t help since the majority of society doesn’t have a scary bone in their body due to said tip toeing

Thanks for participating

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#49

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Bruce Lee was the very embodiment of HERO. His students are still alive today. All of them have spoken about Bruce Lee’s absolute fearlessness. In Hong Kong he used to be involved in real street fights (not UFC bs) and winning them. But he was also an extremely nice guy who was always smiling and joking. If you look at his his work and his legacy and the millions of people he has influenced and is still influencing, you have to admit that he was the perfect example of a fearless alpha. He wasn’t an ass and was known to be an extremely cordial and warm human being.

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#50

This is really just internal status, leadership, and self-respect.

If you have self-respect, then you won’t tolerate someone crossing your boundaries or messing with you. If you have it congruent, then you don’t attract it anyways. People will also respect your space hence “get out of my way”.

If you have great leadership then people respect it and want to follow what you say.

So basically, any Alpha title - that’s my take.

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#51

@Skadoosh : There is no leadership in " Get out of my way", " Don’t fuck with me or I’ll punch you in the face" or “Obey me”. Leadership means someone is following you. People following you out of fear is no real leadership.

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#52

you’re so smart

#53

Leadership is referring to the last 2:

If you have strong leadership and you are a great leader, then you are in a position of authority that people respect.

For example: Saint Sovereign is a great leader and people respect his authority.

Additionally, people will want to obey you and follow your commands/suggestions. Isn’t that what makes a great leader?

Which part do you disagree with? Lol

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#54

This means “respect my space”.

People with high status, you respect their personal space. If you have high internal status and self-respect then people respect your personal space.

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#55

Do you see what I’m doing, lol.

Yes, he worded it edgy and whatnot but there is a practical basis in the manifestation. I’m approaching that, rather than the edgy wording.

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#56

False equivalency. @SaintSovereign is respected in here because of the service, value and expertise he provides. That’s what his authority is based on. He commands respect without asking for it. The minute you step into a “respect my authority” or “obey me” mindset, you also step into neediness. If you have to ask for respect, even internally or silently, you never had it, to begin with.

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#57

What are were disagreeing on? Lol.

Of course a great leader with strong leadership skills, doesn’t go around telling people “respect my authority” or “obey me”. The people just do it - that’s what I’m saying.

Okay, let me ask this then:

To have an experience where you command respect naturally and people willingly want to follow what you say… is that not the sign of a great leader?

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#58

I think fear is absolutely needed

Some people won’t learn any other way

And it won’t happen until you consciously do it and with skill

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#59

10,000% agree. In my opinion, it depends on the wavelength of the world you’re in, what kind of experiences are happening. I think full-scope. Everything is viable. Some people are in a country where only a certain shit works.

In the wholesome world though, it’s less about fear more about just respecting boundaries and adults meeting each other where they’re at. Nobody is really walking around in daily life on edge trying to instill fear in everyone… just trying to pay bills and have fun every now and then.

Everyone’s journey is different, has different challenges, different environment, different wavelengths etc. If someone is in prison, the mafia or a crime lord like you said, then you definitely need to be fearsome. If you’re a badass fighter then fear is invaluable and very powerful.

That’s the beauty of human experience, totality is viable and very relative… there is a grand spectrum of experiences going on in the world. I don’t know though, but for myself… viewing this like this has made me less prone to dissonance when coming across different viewpoints or takes. Lol.

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#60

Damn this topic exploded :nerd_face: but in honesty all you guys should fear me because I’m the ultimate alpha gigachad badass around, and I believe my profile pic speaks for that :smiling_imp::ghost: rawrrr…

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#61

There’s many kinds of fears that run that world in which you describe a world where adults meet halfway and nobody is on edge

They’re ALL on edge

They’re all scared, man. That impending breakup, the impending disappointment
The ultimate pain of having their desires left unfulfilled, mostly.

Hello @Tobyone you scared me man

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#62

Even the toughest of men can be ticklish :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

To me there’s so many levels to this. There’s different levels in development in society such as in spiral dynamics etc, and as well as personal in different personality types, ego development, spiritual development and so on.

Take an enlightened sage that has lost all attachment to his physical body, as in his world he is not even a self and don’t care if the body dies… so pairing him against a toughneck on the streets, he’ll gladly offer his head to be cut off, and someone not afraid of dying like that is scary for someone still believing they are special snowflake in the realm of the ego… but then again rawrrr…

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#63

I agree, my friend. Rawr.

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#64

It is written in the sales page that if you combine immortal’s courage and immortal’s blade you will be absolutely fearless.

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