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Hermit, is that you?
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I’ve taken long wash outs as needed.
I trust and believe that @SaintSovereign & @Fire have integrity and also have the best interest in mind for their customers.
I also trust in my own experience here so far over the past year & have very strong intuition. 
Did you say you have autism? Or was that a typo?
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To add. I am committed to a long wash out before starting something new.
No temptations this time to sub hop!
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Is this a bug or is Saint really writing a long reply to this topic?
PS: Sorry for being off topic, but it’s appearing over an hour already
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No, this is the “Everything Comes to Light” individual, still running with the “mind control” argument, even after we have addressed not only his concerns but OPENLY ASKED the community to report their experiences also. Not a single individual reported an experience like him. To anyone wondering what this is about, we are not hiding it. Read the following long threads:
1: PLEASE READ: "Everything Comes to Light"
2: PLEASE READ: Everything Comes to Light, Part 2
To summarize, because he believe we included “mind control” in the scripts, he began to dox our staff, contact our colleagues asking strange questions, send weird messages through support (of which I have not posted out of respect for the situation), post reviews on our company about “not wanting to commit suicide,” and more. We found his caretaker and began a dialogue with the individual, which does not seem to be having an effect.
For over a year, we have tried to keep this out of the legal system, especially in lieu of the new information we received that his caretaker (a rather prestigious individual at that) is filing for guardianship over him, declaring him incompetent, but it appears that only threatening this is not working. So, reluctantly, we will finally initiate the legal process tomorrow. If anyone needs to know exactly what guardianship is, you can read here.
I’m going to make this as clear as possible. You may believe I am being stern, but you need to recognize that I am actually still showing compassion. If I were to make a post with screenshots of everything you did – the things I haven’t shown the community – I believe you’d find the response quite strong. But out of respect for your situation, I have opted to only summarize. And yet, you still come here and betray not only your continued promises that you’d stop your behavior, but also hurt the people around you.
Your caretaker is currently declaring you incompetent in the state of your residence, meaning they are suggesting that you are incapable as an adult man to handle your own affairs and that you are a potential danger to yourself and others. You should not be running subliminals, hypnosis, morphic fields or ANYTHING without your psychiatrist’s approval. We have long removed your access to your past accounts, so if you are still buying products, you are doing so under a false identity. Once again, we are advising you to cease subliminal use immediately, delete ALL files (again) and consult a qualified mental health practitioner.
You cannot save anyone, because you lack the ability to save yourself. You are the individual who clearly has self-control issues. It is not the subliminal or the Zero Point technology causing you to return. Every accusation you made, we addressed PUBLICLY. We asked the ENTIRE COMMUNITY OPENLY to respond. And yet, despite the overwhelming support, in your mind you are still somehow justifying blaming us for your issues.
Let’s be real here. YOU are the one who is obsessed with the occult. You want claimed that you found us on a “self-help Discord channel.” Please, dude – so many individuals here were on those same Discord channels. They’ll back us up when I made this statement: those are “redpill” piracy discords with a strong emphasis on the occult.
You didn’t “find” yourself there. You WENT there. Then you said you “found yourself” on the “dark side of YouTube subliminals.” You didn’t “find yourself” there. You WENT there. Then, you came here, skipped all of the spiritual subliminals and ran Wanted. According to your own customer journals, you went from not taking showers and watching porn nonstop to sleeping with three women. Then, out of nowhere, you started posting things such as, “are you all sure that running subliminals doesn’t come with a cost,” as if the universe works on capitalism.
Then, you got scared, claimed to be Christian and wanted to stop running titles. But when you realized that you were still addicted to getting laid and had temptations to run Wanted, the narrative suddenly became that we were occult lords who were mind controlling everyone into “buying more products and obeying forum rules (wtf?).”
While you were attempting to invade our privacy, did you miss the threads where we were advising people not to spend hundreds of dollars on occult sigils and necklaces? Have you missed the individuals who are talking about how they can sense the free will scripting in the titles, like @PizzaShaman?
We helped you. And you hurt us. You hurt our staff. We lost staff and customers due to your doxxing attempts. We had random colleagues sending us angry emails. We dealt with lost income dealing with all of your weird reviews left on sites.
You’re hurting your caretaker. I now have to contact this individual AGAIN and also have official cease and desist papers served. I had to contact this individual at THEIR JOB, one they worked VERY HARD for, because I very much did not want to call the police. And now, their day, their lives have to be interrupted AGAIN when I reach out.
You even came here and tried to prey on @James, singling him out on a thread of positive reviews simply because he opened up and stated his emotions about feeling stuck in life. And now @7empest asks a question – which you CLEARLY misunderstood – and here you are again.
You need to understand, and I’m just being straightforward: This is predatory behavior. She was asking a question to the like-minded individuals of the forum about becoming an entrepreneur, hence why she listed all of her skills and what’s going on in her life. She was not insinuating in any way, shape or form that she felt something on the subs that gave her pause.
Let me explain something to you: did you even read her other forum posts? She meditates, does yoga and is a certified reiki master. As someone who also meditates and does subtle energy practices, I can assure you, if there were “mind control” or even anything negative hidden in the scripts, she would INSTANTLY pick up on it. Hence why we wouldn’t be so stupid to do such a thing. @Malkuth, another avid meditator and energy cultivator would pick up on it.
@Invictus, Mister “High Flow Factor” himself would OBVIOUSLY pick up on it. @Sub.Zero, @AlexanderGraves, @RVconsultant, @bombayduck, @Luther24, @Palpatine – and SO many more with strong minds (these were the first to pop up, no offense to anyone) would pick up on it.
You’re bypassing all of the good results, like @Yazooneh’s journal and finding those who seem to be down or unsure and only responding to those, even though you’re completely misunderstanding (due to your autism) of what they’re actually asking. You fail to see that this is akin to kicking someone when they are down.
As much as I hate to say this, the only person that is hurting others here… is you.
You keep wanting to cite “Hermit,” but are you aware that in multiple support tickets – which we can most definitely prove – he has threatened that he “is my karma,” that he is God himself and was signing those tickets as “the Son, the Christ?”
This is who you were looking to for evidence? Are those words not blasphemous to your faith?
Are you aware t hat he asked me if he could become the “spiritual leader” of the forum, which he referring to you all as “my flock.” I have a rule that I generally don’t post PMs publicly, but since this is my response, I will (believe me or not, no difference to me):
No, we are not “embedded” in your subconscious. There is absolutely nothing in any of our titles that’s related to Subliminal Club. Not the company name, not our names, not our usernames. There are no instructions to “spend money,” or “follow our forum rules.” You’re thinking of the company because you got good results and now you think you can’t get them without the titles. But as we tell everyone, if you were able to get a result with a subliminal, you could’ve gotten them without – you just needed a tool.
We don’t have to fraud or try and control people. We’ve built an ethical business that’s focused on the customer, and that’s what you don’t understand. I have a very unique mindset, one where I would rather go broke than to build an unethical business.
What you have done is reflected your own dark impulses, your own shadow onto us. And what you found were individuals who had rough pasts – long before SubClub – who discovered the power of the self and used that to transform our lives into something good and positive.
This is a place of transformation. We welcome all of sound mind here, regardless of your past. We won’t even ask you about it unless you tell. That means, you won’t find small-mindedness here, where the only path to salvation is the one you personally believe in. That your interpretation of scripture is the only you’ll find here.
And while I sympathize with you, unfortunately you cannot be part of this community. And we are doing all we can to prevent you from buying more programs. You need help from a qualified mental health professional. STOP running any and all kinds of healing modalities – subliminals, self-hypnosis, morphic fields, etc. – and get conventional help.
We are not going to be the source of your obsession. We will not live our lives wondering when you’ll pop up again, this time off your medicine and reconning, spreading conspiracies. The customers here are not going to have to worry about you popping up in their threads, making weird assumptions. With as much compassion as I can say this: we will protect ourselves. And while some part of me wants to believe that you ultimately mean well, we have a duty to everyone here.
You have been asked to leave by myself and the community itself. Live up to your promises and do just that. If your affirmation works for you, so be it. Say it over and over, whatever makes you feel better.
We wish you well, but this ordeal has come to an end.
STKS.
@7empest – we are going to change the title of this thread and hijack it unfortunately. Would you mind posting a new one with the same opening?
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On it!
Thank you 
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This forum gets wild
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It’s a hoot 
I love it here !
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Man, I never got a thread hijacked! 
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I ran out of likes again 
Wonder how to raise my trust level on here. 
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The point is you are BANNED. Stop coming back here.
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Damn that’s pretty serious → legal ASAP.
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Zero Point doesn’t have a “questioning” nature. That was the Q series of titles.
You know what does have a “questioning” nature? The subliminals you were creating for yourself. You left this part out of the story when you came here and I’ve simply been trying to avoid letting everyone know:
You built your own subliminals, ran them with Zero Point and most likely morphic fields and brainwave entrainment. In the screenshot above, I clearly tell you NOT to use those questions in a subliminal format, but that you could use them as a daily offline journal.
But that’s what this is really all about, isn’t it? The secret of Zero Point. What, you think if you keep throwing conspiracies at the wall, or bringing up things you THINK we’re covering up, we’ll tell you how to script a ZP title?
Then what was this?
What kind of “help” do you think we can provide? No one else is having a “mind control” problem other than you. You saw the other threads – no one is having a problem quitting the subs. Should I show you all of the support tickets about people complaining that they aren’t getting results? What about them? What about the people here that aren’t getting the results they want? Are they mind controlled?
The issue is not our titles. It is your own mind. You said it yourself, you project negativity on everyone else and you can’t see the good in people. That has nothing to do with us.
We have helped you every time you barged into our personal lives. You ignored everything we said and kept responding with the same unfounded accusations, pulling other people into this. We made two huge threads with the entire community responding to your fears. You have ignored EVERYONE’S responses and continued with the same nonsense.
We don’t have to paint you as a villain. You’re doing it yourself. I only have to post your screenshots and everyone will see what I’m talking about. Here’s one of you messaging support non-stop with creepy messages, talking about you “love” me and the such:
You need to understand that this is not normal behavior, and I’m not the type of person you can act like a stalker toward. Both @Fire and myself don’t tolerate this, and we definitely aren’t intimidated by it.
In all the years that we’ve been open, we have never received stuff like this. It is not our titles causing this. You need help. And that’s why we’re contacting the law, not because we are trying to scare you, but if this continues to escalate, it will not end well for you.
Once again, you’re dragging people into this that has NOTHING to do with your situation. But, let’s bring this to light, since bad actors continue to try and weaponize tragedy.
Meng was involved in some non-subliminal related activities that we won’t reveal, not for you or anyone. We only became aware of this when an individual on this forum who he spoke to on the regular made us aware of it.
As a result, he began to have severe anxiety. When he went to the doctor, he was prescribed Strattera. Strattera is ADHD / anxiety medicine with a BLACK BOX LABEL in the United States. Do you know what that is? A black box label is the highest warning the FDA can give a drug due to very harsh side effects. Do you know why the FDA gave Strattera a black box label?
His family told us that when they spoke to the doctor about the thoughts he was having, the doctor pushed him out of the door and didn’t even respond. We were told directly that he never mentioned anything about suicide until he began taking Strattera.
Had he been in the United States, he would’ve been taken off of it immediately. That didn’t occur. He continued to take the medication and a few days later, he took his life. His family are dignitaries of their country, and so we kept the story quiet out of respect and request.
It is absolutely disgusting that you are attempting to try and “force” us to show everything we know about Meng. But I’ll make this clear to you, or anyone else. I’ll shut this company down before I reveal things in Meng’s private life. He was our Arch Archivist, and he was our friend and the friend of many here.
We will protect his legacy just as much as we were protecting yours. As you can see, we didn’t reveal these screenshots until you kept coming back and messing with us.
And guess what? I’m STILL protecting you by not showing everything.
Because he became the CEO of an awesome company, got married and had a child. He decided to focus on his family because he thought he had achieved his goal and didn’t need subliminal use. Not only did he tell you this himself, but he has always tried out all kinds of subliminals from different vendors, including ours.
Again, pulling people into this that have NOTHING to do with you.
We already asked the community the questions you asked, twice. I literally took your post and asked the entire community the questions you asked:
The community responded. There are over 150 posts on those threads with the community digging deep into your questions. READ THEM. Do you really think that you’re the individual to save them? They are not the ones being declared incompetent by the state. Wake up, you need to get professional help.
This was us helping you. No one else in Subliminal Club history has ever gotten such a response, to the point that our customers were starting to get annoyed. And yet, you claim we haven’t helped?
@Fire is about to post all of the messages we’ve received from Hermit. You’ll see why he was banned, and it isn’t for “critical thinking.” Again, you found the ONE person who you think would agree with you and ran with it. But again, this is the individual calling himself “the Son, the Christ.” Here, let me show you all some stuff.
Here’s ONE of the 50 rambling messages we received, where he proclaimed that he was the “Father” (the deity you claim to worship) and signed the message as if he were Jesus Christ, claiming to have written the script to The Revelation of Spirit and used the kundalini to connect to my subconscious and transmitted the script to me.
THIS is why we banned him. Because he was preying on vulnerable individuals like yourself and attempting to create a cult. Another member here actually made a HUGE (I mean HUGE) decision in their life based on that man’s nonsense. Once that member came to his senses, he told us what happened, but said he wouldn’t stay on the forum as long as Hermit was.
Do you really think we’re going to keep this individual on our forum? Now, you’re running around getting sucked into the nonsense he posted, thinking he was “asking the hard questions.”
The only thing you’re doing with all your accusations is forcing us to prove just how much we protect people, even if it looks like we’re doing something shady ourselves. We’ll take those hits, because we can endure it.
STKS.
You are not qualified to determine what’s in everyone’s best interests. You are literally going through a court case, as an adult man, where your caretaker is declaring you incompetent.
The individuals here are capable of making their own decisions, even more capable than you. That’s simply a fact.
There are two threads where “hard hitting questions” were presented directly to the community:
1: PLEASE READ: “Everything Comes to Light”
2: PLEASE READ: Everything Comes to Light, Part 2
There were no edits to that thread, no deletions – except the ones where they insulted you too much. Why? Because after we made our post, you went to a review site and posted an odd message about how sorry you were for posting and that you don’t want to commit suicide. No one is hiding anything. We just aren’t allowing you to dictate our company.
We are responsible for people not knowing what they want out of life? Are you serious? What exactly is the accusation here? Zero Point doesn’t even have “questions,” rofl. That was Qv2, which you thrived on.
What is unfair is when an individual attempts to blame their personal issues on you. You said – in your OWN words – that before you came to Subliminal Club, you would spend DAYS in your room, masturbating to porn, not taking showers, peeing in cups and bottles and eating food from the snack machine, which caused you to gain an incredible amount of weight.
And you think that you were “okay” until you ran Wanted? You think the title that took you from what I just described above to getting laid with 3 women (now FIVE women according to your apology on the other post) is the cause of your issues?
You need help from a qualified mental health therapist. And I don’t believe that you are here to help people ask “the hard questions,” because I already did. Shall we do this again? Shall I ask the entire community to answer “the hard questions” and see what conclusion they come to? No. They already have answered. I will not ask these people to take more time out of their lives to answer exactly what you asked them already.
And @Fire and I will not be your victims. You are not ours. We have done nothing to do you. You need professional medical help. We cannot help you. The people here cannot help you. We cannot help you because your issue has nothing to do with subliminal audio.
You have a mental illness, and I am pleading with you to go get help. Stop running ALL subliminal audio. Don’t make any of your own. Don’t run morphic fields. Delete all your files and get therapy.
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