When you finish a cycle for your sub and take the 5 rest days, do you feel terrible for the first 3 days?

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#1

I’m just wondering if anyone else feels terrible the first 3 days of 5 days of rest. I’m considering that this is a sign my loop amount is too high and I need to add an additional rest day in my regular listening schedule so at the end of the cycle my mind isn’t tripping over itself trying to process.

Symptoms are basically intense emotions and agitation but combined with lethargy. So it’s like I’m wired mentally but physically exhausted. Focus is absolutely gone. If I’m at work I’m basically fighting myself all day to stay on task. Depending on how much I force myself to complete my work or what pops up at my job that needs attention, it results in a tension headache that can turn into a full blown migraine that knocks me out the next day. I already kind of suck at focus with tasks I’m not interested in, but this turns it up to 11.

Usually after 3 days things smooth out a bit and I’m ok. But I notice there’s not really any bloom or anything. Just feels like my brain choked on processing a whole backlog of subliminal input. So I’m assuming it’s more like delayed overexposure and there’s minimal benefits here going through this every time. I dread taking my extended rest after a cycle.

Notes here. I only run 1 min loops, every other day the ZP standard schedule. 1 min definitely seems like my sweet spot at the moment as far as consistent results go. It just seems like it might be stacking up somehow in a way that’s not working out for me at the end of the cycle.

#2

how long are your loops?

#3

Just 1 min for now

#4

Most of the time it’s the first day or two that can be meh, but after that it’s really nice

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#5

Honestly it probably depends on you, the title(s) you’re listening to, and what you subconscious is trying to reconcile

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#6

I feel the same the first 2-3 days of washout. I don’t know what it is.

#7

I feel much better when I stop listening to subs, I feel more myself and I get to truly experience how the sub has changed me, it’s like the annoying voice in my head from the sub that doesn’t belong to me is gone and I feel more peaceful spacious, etc.

#8

What do you actually mean? That you prefer not to use subs or have long wash-out days to experience how you have changed?

#9

I feel similar things near the end of the normal 26 day cycle. they build up slowly from around the 13th - 15th day and they max out around the last listening days.

i tried experimenting with microlooping, shorter cycles, but what works best for me is putting a second washout in the middle of the cycle. or in other words, intentionally miss a listening day or two.

the effects of the subs don’t decrease either. it’s actually better because they are smoother and i can focus more on taking action.

my cycle is now 9 on 4 off 9 on 4 off, this is still experimental since i want to know what will happen if i use less than 5 days with this schedule. you can try 9 on 3 off 9 on 5 off first and see how it goes.

some people here have also suggested this listening schedule

Mon - Listen
Tue - Rest
Wed - Listen
Thu - Rest
Fri - Listen
Sat - Rest
Sun - Rest

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#10

What I mean is pretty clear, I feel very good when washing out.

#11

Back in the ZP and QV2 days use to feel like shit on washout or break days however with the latest tech when i take break days I feel very little recon or intense emotions.

#12

It seems like you’re saying that you feel much better when you stop listening to the subs. Does that mean you don’t feel good when you’re actually listening to them? That’s what I initially thought you meant.

It appears that you actually prefer the wash-outs over the listening period.

#13

I guess you need to look up the definition of the word ‘better’ so you don’t get confused and misunderstand what I say.

#14

I prefer listening days because the sub input teaches me a lot but I feel much better when I stop listening to the sub and I’m on my own applying the lessons I’ve learnt

#15

Interesting. I’ll keep this one in mind. I think I’m gonna give their official suggestion of adding an additional rest day and see how that goes. Appreciate the input.

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#16

Current stack kb1 dr4 just like dr3 and ros makes me feel like a billionair i dont like off days, im just intuitively winging it based on how i feel when to take breaks when to micrloop but sometime i feel i need a daily small boost to get an effective day

#17

There are bad days sometimes at the beginning of a washout or in the end

#18

I do LOL

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#19

Taking extra rest days mid cycle feels like a good idea.

Also adding an extra rest day after every listen could work.

However I have severe FOMO with subs and honestly I sometimes listen daily… sub-5min microloops but still

Listening daily is not advisable, the overexposure stacks up quickly.

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#20

I tried daily listening with 30s loops once when I was in an experimenting phase. Never again.

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