In a nutshell, slow but solid changes to money mindset and self-image.
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I am going from memory here.
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Emperor back in the Q version & Qv2 (before ZP) for around 8 months. Developed a bit of a foundation, focused more on self and not so much on women during that time
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RICH Ultima in QV2 for almost a year I think along with other things. That got me into stock & crypto trading/investing. Manifested a hand me down used car from a family member. The car not in use now but the manifestation was wild.
That’s me. I used Ascended Mogul for about 4 months then Emperor for 2 years. It completely changed me. Just a few days ago I was reflecting on how profound the change was. I went from being a pushover to being someone who can stand his ground and whose self confidence is sky high. That’s actually why I decided to run HoM and EOG for a couple of years too.
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Been using my own sub of the human mind for 5000 years now , over multiple lifetimes of course 
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Of course this is all nothing more than my “opinion.”
How long you’ve run a sub doesn’t really indicate anything. You’re under the impression that the length of time you run a sub is strongly correlated with the results you manifest. That’s not how this shit works.
What matters is:
- what are your goals with the sub
- where are you currently at in relation to your goals with the sub
- what actions are you taking towards your goals that align with the sub
Someone could run WANTED or Khan with the goal of getting laid… for 3 years and not get laid a single time. This would happen if they were in an endless loop of running away, not taking action, pissing away their time and escaping from recon (coping mechanisms).
You have to start measuring your results. Running subliminals without any sense of clear structure, purpose or progression is completely useless. Many people have done exactly that and have little to no growth to show for it. I’m not going to put anyone on the spot but a great example of that is long-term users here who’ve run Alpha subs for 2+ years and just a few days ago engaged in keyboard frame battles and name-calling on the internet forum as if they behaviorally downgraded to a teenager.
If you’re just half-assing running subs while focused on running it as long as possible to reap maximum benefits, then I don’t really consider you a serious sub user because there’s no clarity or practicality in your progression. It leans more towards mental masturbation… and your level of growth is going to reflect that.
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I think my experience perfectly demonstrates what luther is saying here.
Ive been on stark for a year, but at this point in my life, money just isnt even close to a priority. My results therefor havent seen much impact on the money side of things.
Even something like uni, when i focussed on it i got amazing grades, greater than ive ever gotten. Lately my priorities shifted to other things and i started failing some subjects.
In the same vain ive also been on WANTED for a year, but havent been consistent with working out. So while my muscles are a bit more toned, im still not muscular or anything like that.
Another demonstration of how important taking action is:
I remember luther being one of the most succesfull PS users ive read when he was only on that sub for like a few weeks or something like that, because he was taking so much action in that time.
Just using a sub on its own is not gonna make changes. Its usinn the sub alongside action to gain the results you desire thats gonna make the changes happen. (Taking action doesnt even have to be that big, slowly taking bigger and bigger actions will build up over time as the sub pushes you forward, imo the most important part is that you make it a priority and actually care about achieving the results. Also being willing to go through effort to achieve the results)
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