Might wanna add inexhaustible to the mix if you wanna survive 
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Will consider it.
Cheers!
With perfect timing the Cherry just landed on Top.
Tomorrow starts Cycle VIII.
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Some quick thoughts on washout and longterm stacks:
Key goal with subs and the related actions is to convince the subconscious to accept a gradual shift in the (experienced, “real”) world and therefore in yourself. For this to happen we have to keep the clues, hints and proof for the shift contiuously coming. Without it the subconscious will eventually snap back into old assumptions. (Weighing the fading new impressions against lifelong personal truths.)
As far as I experienced it, listening days and rest days (for processing) as well as washout, as the subconscious is still occupied by the new input, hold up the new shifted reality.
(Actions and subs are the most important proof. Will reflect later on what might also be proof for the subconscious. (Different surrounding, changed input from the environment etc.))
During the last washout I experienced a very tangible fallback (Limitless results paused rather abruptly) on day 4 and 5 of washout coinciding with a strong urge to start the next cycle. I gather the subconscious was done processing (at least with some significant bits) and was longing to proceed which is probably a good sign.
Will cut washout by one day to four til anything changes with the stack.
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The stack will probably keep evolving. It will be more refinement than change, but the longer I keep running it, the clearer I get on my goals and how to get there. (And, of course, awesome stuff is going to drop that needs to find its way into the stack.)
A couple of thoughts on the stack:
A. Cherry on Top
Daredevil
Primal Romance Core
Primal Nights Core
Synergy: 42
Synergy: Primordial Aura
Synergy: Inescapable Gaze
Song of Joy
Dragon Tongue
Symphony of the Glyphs
Deep State
One Scent
Faith Unyielding
SPS: Respiratory System
The only light recon I get is from 42, though maybe it’s wrong to call existential questioning recon. Overwhelming sometimes. It has a delightful synergy with Daredevil. Together they tear down the walls limiting what I thought is possible.
Still have to dig way deeper. The links of comedy and hypnosis are clear, but there is way more to discover.
Will need more time to grasp the possibilities better. PR resonates more with me than PN. Though the Channelled Dirty Talk of PN is really great for erotica writing. (Works best or me if you approach it like roleplay.)
If Dirty Talk would get a stand alone module, my ideal A.-Variation would probably look something like this:
A. Cherry on Top v2
I. Daredevil
II. Primal Romance Core
III. Alchemist: Singularity Core
4. Synergy: 42
5. Synergy: Primordial Aura
6. Synergy: Inescapable Gaze
7. Song of Joy
8. Dragon Tongue
9. Symphony of the Glyphs
10. Deep State
11. Faith Unyielding
12. MDFY: Conscious Guidance
13. Khronos Key
MDFY: Conscious Guidance for the slightly offcenter goals. (storytelling for dictating prose, flirting with the readers, Symphony of the Glyphs for hypnosis etc.)
The one unknown still to be considered is Alchemist: Singularity. Limitless: Mind’s Eye might be a different interesting addition. (Especially looking at 42 and hypnosis.)
Getting clearer on how The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro v3 will look like.
I’ll go the Substack route to train and collect text later to be edited and published as books. Got 3-4 different niches I want to write about + erotica (of course on a separate Substack page).
Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X is the core, Nouveau RICH brings the edge.
Still to be determined: Limitless: Mind’s Eye Core or the new Ecstasy of Gold. Was sold on Mind’s Eye then @SaintSovereign teased EoG. Well.
With EoG it would look something like this:
The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro v3
I. Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X Core
II. Nouveau RICH Core
III. Ecstasy of Gold - St. tbd
IV. Synergy: Glory Incarnate
V. Synergy: Divine Dominion
VI. Synergy: Carpe Vitam
VII. MDFY: One Goal
VIII. Fortune’s Favorite
IX. Treasure Finder
X. Free Pass
Shapes v6 is heavy but good. It will stay as it is til new KB drops.
EDIT: Or maybe not…
Shapes v6
- Limitless Core
- Khan Black Stage 4 Core
- Limitless: Mind’s Eye
- New Physical Shifting Experience Core
- Synergy: Preordained Vitality
- Synergy: Harmonic Conflux
- Synergy: Machine Totality
- Synergy: Apollon Unbound
- SPS: Cardiovascular System
- SPS: Digestive System
- SPS: Fat Burn
- Inexhaustible
- DEUS
- Synergy: Iron Law
- The Aligner
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A. Cherry on Top v2
I. Daredevil Core
II. Primal Romance Core
III. Alchemist: Singularity Core
4. Synergy: 42
5. Synergy: Primordial Aura
6. Synergy: Inescapable Gaze
7. Synergy: Semper Praesens
8. Song of Joy
9 Dragon Tongue
10. Symphony of the Glyphs
11. Entranced
12. Faith Unyielding
13. MDFY: Conscious Guidance
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The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro v3
I. Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X Core
II. Nouveau RICH Core
III. Limitless: Mind’s Eye
4. Synergy: Glory Incarnate
5. Synergy: Divine Dominion
6. Synergy: Carpe Vitam
7. MDFY: One Goal
8. Fortune’s Favorite
9. Treasure Finder
10. Free Pass
11. Polyglot
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Won’t change A. Cherry on Top, but will run AoH on the side. It’s light and nice, no need to redo the customs.
With Beyond Limitless: Into the Wonder on the other hand… well it screams to go into
The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro v4
I. Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X Core
II. Nouveau RICH Core
III. Beyond Limitless: Into the Wonder Core
4. Synergy: Glory Incarnate → New Fame Experience Core
5. Synergy: Divine Dominion
6. Synergy: Carpe Vitam
7. MDFY: One Goal
8. Fortune’s Favorite
9. Treasure Finder
10. Free Pass
11. Polyglot
If we get a New Fame Experience will swap it for Synergy: Glory Incarnate.
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Vision of the Infinite is such a delightful contrast to MDFY.
These two packs show how broad our repertoire is when it comes to customs: From the meta-modules that change and redefine everything (rules, metaphysics, direction, mechanics) in MDFY to the hyperfocussed tools of Vision of the Infinite, which, like fine brushes, work the often most difficult finishing touches, elevating the good to grand.
Unlike MDFY, Vision of the Infinite leaves no real questions open.
Breaking The Cycle and The Feedback Loop will definitely be added in the next custom update, as they adress the dissolution (of bad) and the forming (of necessary) habits. (Not sure yet where. Breaking The Cycle would probably work well in Shapes, The Feedback Loop in The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro?)
Deep Listening, Flowing Freely and The Language of Dreams will be added to A. Cherry on Top. These are perfect fits.
As noted before the New Fame Experience will move into The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro, replacing Synergy: Glory Incarnate.
I really like Pathways of Intuition and Collaborative Flow. Not sure if they will find a place.
Still contemplating which timeframe to update customs makes most sense. For now updates of Khan Black and Beyond Limitless will probably be the triggers. After that I’ll aim for custom updates after every two module pack releases.
SHAPES
I. Limitless Core
II. (New) Khan Black Stage 4 Core
III. NEW Sex Mastery X Core Beast Unleashed Core
4. New Physical Shifting Experience Core
5. Synergy: Preordained Vitality
6. Synergy: Harmonic Conflux
7. Synergy: Machine Totality
8. Synergy: Apollon Unbound
9. SPS: Cardiovascular System
10. SPS: Digestive System
11. SPS: Fat Burn
12. Inexhaustible
13. DEUS
14. Male Enhancement
15. Khronos Key
16. Synergy : Iron Law
17. The Aligner
A. CHERRY ON TOP
I. Daredevil Core
II. Primal Romance Core
III. Limitless: Mind’s Eye Alchemist:Singularity
4. Synergy: 42
5. Synergy: Primordial Aura
6. Synergy: Inescapable Gaze
7. Synergy: Semper Praesens
8. Song of Joy
9. Dragon Tongue
10. Symphony of the Glyphs
11. Deep State
12. Faith Unyielding
13. MDFY: Conscious Guidance
14. Deep Listening
15. Pathways of Intuition
16. The Language of Dreams
17. Breaking The Cycle
THE SUDDEN LIGHTING OF NISHIKI KAMURO
I. (New) Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X Core
II. Nouveau RICH Core
III. The Ecstasy of Gold Stage 1 Core Limitless: Mind’s Eye
4. New Fame Experience Core Synergy: Glory Incarnate
5. Synergy: Divine Dominion
6. Synergy: Carpe Vitam
7. MDFY: One Goal
8. Fortune’s Favorite
9. Treasure Finder
10. Free Pass
11. Polyglot
12. The Feedback Loop
13. MDFY: Together
14. Flowing Freely
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To Elaborate: A NEW Khan Black would trigger the update for Shapes (hopefully with either Diamond or Sex Mastery X already updated to replace Beast Unleashed.
Beyond Limitless: Into the Wonder will trigger the update for The Sudden Lighting of Nishiki Kamuro and A. Cherry on Top (with Mind’s Eye moving to the latter).
It’s been 5 months of continuous Limitless use.
Feels much longer. The clarity is beautiful and cognitive capacities are building up. Still a lot of room for improvement.
One year is planned, so at least til September 2025.
After that I want to build on it somehow.
RoM would be an option - I liked it the first time around -, but I appreciate the rather pushing nature of Limitless very much.
RoS would be another, but as productivity and focussed action is central for the next couple of years, it’s probably a bit further away.
QL is a strong contender. It could substitute Limitless in
SHAPES.
I. Limitless Core
II. Khan Black Stage 4 Core
III. The Beast Unleashed Core
4. New Physical Shifting Experience Core
5. Synergy: Preordained Vitality
6. Synergy: Harmonic Conflux
7. Synergy: Machine Totality
8. Synergy: Apollon Unbound
9. SPS: Cardiovascular System
10. SPS: Digestive System
11. SPS: Fat Burn
12. Inexhaustible
13. Male Enhancement
14. DEUS
15. Khronos Key
16. Synergy : Iron Law
17. The Aligner
I would probably go 3 months for every stage and keep Stage 4 after one complete runthrough. Judging by the copy it should be a great fit with the New Physical Shifting Experience Core with the strengthening of the nervous system, balancing hormones and brain chemistry. Another Pro would be the focus and concentration aspect of Stage 3.
Or I just keep Limitless for the years to come.
Still very curious about the results of sub longterm use. (So far it is only Khan Black 4 that will stay, no matter what.)
This opens up a couple of questions about upgrading customs.
The level up ladder within a custom looks something like this:
(FOCUS) Module (e. g. Pragya) → Synergy (Wisdom of the Ages) → Core (Limitless) → Heavy Core (Beyond Limitless) → Multistage Cycle (Quantum Limitless)
Maybe the key question:
How much momentum do you lose when you switch to the next step?
From Module to Core it’s probably negligible. But after that? I am not sure (not a euphemism, I am really unclear on that point) if it ever really makes sense to switch from one sub you are comfortable with and that is aligned with your longterm goals (e. g. Limitless) to a broadly related one (e. g. RoM).
With your direction giving predispositions stay the same and the general field stays the same, it’s like learning a different tool to work on the same task in broadly the same manner. Probably bad ROI?
The course for developmental subs (just talking about them, not healing or shifting) for me seems to be broadly:
- First Contact/Recon/Trailer Effects/Shiny&New → 2. Short Term Results (the first tangible effects) → 3. (all) Modules Kicking In, 4. Results Are Stabilizing → 5. Results Are Normalizing → 6. Results Are Getting Hard-Wired.
The last one is an assumption but an obvious one. Looking at subs like a collection of skills, I would compare it to driving a car. In the beginning I thought about every turn and movement, today I mostly drive on the internal autopilot without any conscious thought about driving. That took years of course.
Going through the current stack no module or core so far has reached [6] and only a few [5]:
KB4, Limitless, Daredevil (that was close from the beginning), S: Machine Totality, Inexhaustible, Khronos Key, Song of Joy, Dragon Tongue, Entranced, Faith Unyielding and Treasure Finder.
Maybe in the future I will mark those that I want/need to reach [6], modules like Deep State. Made a lot of progress over the last two years regarding meditation and depth of trance, but it is still a looong way to go.
Maybe it does make sense to plan core clusters for 3+ years. Still needs a bit contemplation. Would be very interested in your thoughts.
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I enjoy reading your ideas.
I am sure there is deep insight contained within them.
My own thoughts have some overlap but are also somewhat different.
I wrote these two posts two years ago:
I don’t think I’m completely right in those posts. There is something being contributed by the subliminal. But I’m just interested in this perspective. That the subliminal is unlocking doors within you and strengthening your access to areas, aspects, and capabilities of your mind.
Funnily enough, years ago I developed my own idea that I called the Zero Point Fallacy, but it was not the same as the way we use Zero Point here. My idea was that when you learn a ‘new’ subject, you are not actually starting from ‘nothing’. In most cases, you have already had numerous experiences with the subject or phenomena in question, so you have a kind of implicit, non-verbal, experiential knowledge of it. Often what you’re learning are particular ways of framing, organizing, and approaching that subject. I think this applies to the subliminal programs as well (they, too, represent an approach to a kind of ‘learning’).
This is why these days, I am not really interested in deciding on or announcing in advance an intended time-frame for working with a subliminal program. Instead, I want to journey with the program until I come to a place of ease, familiarity, and (dare I say) mastery.
I don’t think that switching to another program resets or restarts the process. To propose a different metaphor, you said that it was like learning to drive, and that possibly that learning a new sub was like becoming familiar with a new vehicle or type of vehicle. I agree. But I also think that, sometimes, playing a new sub can be like entering into a building by way of a new door. Once you have entered inside the building and once you have gotten your bearings, there will be much that may be somewhat familiar and easily integrated. It’s difficult to say, ahead of time, how familiar or easeful the integration process will be.
I guess, at the end of the day, I think it is a very good idea to explore the kinds of question you are exploring, and to develop the kinds of views and frameworks that you are developing. But I think that once they are developed, we put them down and then work directly with the experience of the subliminals and with the process of learning; fully open to the (likely) possibility of being surprised by that process.
You may get amazing, personally meaningful responses in 2 months, or after a year.
Reality will finish the tale.
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Thank you so much for your reply. A lot of interesting thoughts.
I really like your unlocked doors.
Well, good metaphors make it right, in a way.
When I search for them there is often a “poetic temptation”, a picture that very much resonates with me in overall form and elements (so my subconscious understands it perfectly) and with the first associations, but sadly often does not convey the most effective message. Might sometimes even be a backdoor into old, bad habits. I should work on that.
ZP definitely requires a couple of caveats: A big part of the script is recurring in every sub, so for free will scripting, the NSE, ZP core scripting all, for all this, so there is continuity. And with ZPU I might fully agree with you: Once every aspect is reframed from a motivational nudge to embody archetypical traits as a skill to learn, results should become a lot more permanent.
Okay. Than we are pretty close with just one difference: I want to reach this one room and going outside to enter again through a different door to again search for the room feels like wasted time to me. (which, thinking about it, needs some urgent reframing).
Thank you.
That was very insightful.
Planning ahead for our development is a good thing, provided we know exactly what we want to achieve and what we need to work on.
Our life depends on our intellect to a high degree, and working on honing it is the best direction one can take for self-improvement—assuming there are no other essential areas to address, such as changing eating habits or quitting porn.
I wouldn’t focus on the subs as much as I would on the measures I could take to make the “magic” happen. In this case, it’s about adopting a lifestyle, engaging in activities, and taking daily actions that catalyze progress.
The essential question is: What abilities does one need to develop in order to achieve their desires? All the focus should be on one’s abilities to perform necessary actions. For example, learning Calculus using QL to develop the skill set and cognitive abilities that this learning offers.
That’s a good start, yet I think running Sanguine and QL1 would be a better bet—running both for at least three months. I’ve been running them for over three months, and I can see how much stronger my nervous system has become and how adamant my mind is when it comes to staying intellectually active (working on my SEO projects) for 14 hours a day.
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We are totally d’accord on that front. I was just looking at this one aspect of the sub cycles.
Did you also ran Limitless in the past? Mh… your description of QL1 is quite tempting. I’m still very much in the grind phase of things and losing concentration in the afternoon/evening is one core problem.
Thank you!
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Yes, but the Pre-Q version I didn’t gel well with. Like Saint didn’t either.
QL1 and Sanguine are your best bet. I can’t think of any better preparation for what we want to achieve, as they’re utterly focused on restoring and strengthening the nervous system. I can imagine that building a custom based on these two might be a better choice. These two are perfectly balanced, so building that custom would require great meticulousness.
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I’ll definitely have a look at Sanguine. QL1 sounds really pretty tempting… I was eyeing BL:ITW for the grind custom, maybe QL1 is the better choice (and it’s already released).
It’s so valuable to read experiences about comparable situations from completely different perspectives.
Cheers!
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SINGLE MODULE CUSTOMS
Still way off, but totally hyped for them.
There are several aspects, that make the proposition incredibly tempting.
A couple of years back I browsed an onlinestore with hypnosis MP3s – not sure if it still exists, didn’t find it just now – which had an insane amount of different niche tracks (like adressing one specific allergy or, well, every particular inclination one could think of, taking Rule 34 quite seriously). As one would find some quite fitting hypnosis tracks, whatever the main problem, approach or fantasy was, one felt quite connected and understood. (Only by the shop experience that is. The actual MP3s I tried were bad: Terrible computer voices, no melody in the hypnotic narration, no chance to get into trance.)
Subs are by the given structure often a broad instrument for sometimes finer, singular issues to be adressed. Let’s say someone has problems with eating properly, planning calories and nutrition to lose weight and get into shape. This is a very specific, incredibly common problem which can dominate people’s lives for a long time. Paragon or Spartan would probably adress it, but you get an awful lot of extra scripting you don’t actually need which slows down the key results.
This would change with a single Health Codex custom.
I don’t know how sucessful BDLM is in numbers but the ever growing enthusiasm on here IMO shows how unbelievably massive single issue subs can be.
As @SaintSovereign alluded to in the past, the slim focussed nature of AC, even though the tech is out of date, is the reason it still can feel so insanely powerful.
SMCs also lend themselves for maintenance subs. Comedians would very much enjoy a Song of Joy sub, hypnotists Entranced and models Moment Immortalized.
They would fit perfectly into 2 module max structure for name embedded mayor subs IMO.
I suspect ZPQ would make most sense build-wise.
It would be very interesting to experiment with MDFYs or the NSE in the second slot. Also: It would give us the opportunity to isolate and analyse the results of single modules. (Especially curious regarding a couple of auras.)
EDIT: Another interesting option would be an AC format: Only one module, 7 minutes and high densitiy that could be run additionally to the stack.
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Tinkering.
A. CHERRY ON TOP v5
I. Daredevil Core
II. RM: Ultimate Writer X Core
3. ESSENCE: Lover’s Pact
4. ESSENCE: Clear Sight
5. Synergy: Inescapable Gaze
6. Synergy: Beyond Connection
7. King‘s Radiance
8. Symphony of the Glyphs
9. Deep State
10. Hyperfocus Engine
11. Song of Joy
12. Breaking The Cycle
13. Deep Listening
14. Pathways of Intuition
15. The Language of Dreams
16. Entranced
17. Temptation
18. The Flow
19. Typing Mastery
XX. Anti Recon
THE SUDDEN LIGHTING OF NISHIKI KAMURO
I. Nouveau RICH Core
II. The Ecstasy of Gold Stage 1 Core
3. MDFY: One Goal
4. Mindflow Optimized
5. Synergy: Divine Dominion
6. Synergy: Carpe Vitam
7. Execution Override
8. Fortune’s Favorite
9. Treasure Finder
10. Free Pass
11. Terracota Mindset
12. The Feedback Loop
13. Executive Function Mastery
14. Flowing Freely
15. Locked In
16. Iron Discipline
17. Streamlined Mind
18. Dopamine Mastery
19. Endgame Drive
20. Zero Fog
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