After reading all descriptions I like the sound of them can I run these together?
I’m not a newb but I’ve had about 6 months plus off subs
I’m wanting to heal from past relationship pain and stop ruminating as it’s been impacting me quite heavily this week , build self esteem, attract more and better quality women, internalise alpha traits and become more motivated to take action overall
And do people think I should micro loop some / all?
Interested in anyone’s thoughts / advice
Cheers
Love Bomb only for this.
Also WB is not a starter title. 6 months sub use is definitely not enough for this, unless you are already successful with women.
Also, WB and HS might clash.
→ Primal
Absolutely.
I suggest normal wanted if you wish to mix all of them. Otherwise, though I don’t suggest it, WB microlooped for some cycles before adding anything. KB might be a good idea with it.
You have many options without seeking the WB. Wanted is a good option and a great stepping stone into WB. Primal is another. Ascension. Executive for motivation.
Spartan Apex Warrior is another direction to take - Building yourself through the tried and true method of sweat and steel.
Phoenix will also take care of everything. This is a tough ride though, so saddle up.
Read the WB thread, you will see that many people that jumped into it couldn’t reap the potential of WB, and most just got a slight delicious crumbs of the pie. Such is why I suggest other titles. Wanted OG is no joke as well.
Heartsong is enough for this. And for your sake do NOT stack stuff with it. Love Bomb is fine and it would also heal many of those aspects you are wishing to heal; you’ll even unlock your innate Alpha traits that every healthy male has. Heartsong will take you through some of the deepest pains and you will recon until you reconcile your heart and heal, such is why I do not suggest stacking with it, imo LB is fine.
P.S: Keep in mind that the end goal of HS is soulmate manifestation. If that is not something you wish for, then maybe PHOENIX is all you need.
In conclusion, picture yourself at a fork road, two paths, that diverge into one goal at the end. One is Through diving into your heart - internal, the other is through climbing out of the wreckage. Dig in or dig out, both direction will give you where you want to be in the end.
Third one is you grab two pieces of stones, set the whole mother on fire, ashify your whole being and blaze the hell out. - Phoenix.
I’d say go for it.
Saint once described WB + HS as the ultimate harem stack. A harem with deep connections on a soul level.
Only, I’d start with Wanted for half a year. There was a huge discussion a few months ago why people get results with Wanted OG but not with WB.
Also, all three of these subs are healing. LB and HS are obvious, but I read in a couple of journals that Wanted healed a lot of rejection wounds and also revealed that the desire for a harem just stemmed simply from the experience of rejection and once it was healed, the desire was gone.
Only, if you want one deep relationship instead of a harem, than don’t run WB.
After reading this thread, what do you think?
WB + HS + LB??? 
I don’t recommend stacking all three at all; WB will make it very complicated. 
I recommend micro-looping WB for 30 seconds with LB for 30 seconds since you’re still kind of new to black 
titles. If not, try Primal + LB; that should put you back in the saddle, feeling all good about yourself and your life goals. 
As a matter of fact I had a realization last night how much LB is much better stacked with WB than Genesis, I mean nothing beats following your literal bliss every day in in every way 
Don’t get me wrong Genesis is a good title, but man the level of happiness and joy on LB is unforgettable 
I think I’m more confused than before I asked 
What would help un-confuse you?
If you were to summarize the above in 40 words or less, how would you do so?
That is about 40 words isn’t it?! The only reason I’m confused it because there’s a lot of different title recommendations. This is something that is very important to me at time so im happy and willing to go all in I just want to be sure of the stack I’m running hmmm
Thank you for the reply I’ve ran primal in the past , what do you think to primal HS and LB ? … I like both of the write ups for LB and HS and they seem to be different enough to want the benefits of both but you reckon not so great to run together ?
As others have said, this stack might be difficult especially if you’re relatively new SC subs.
I would suggest Ascension + OG Wanted for your goals. Ascension for internalizing alpha traits and Wanted for attracting women. Much lighter stack, would be easier to execute and get you faster results.
I’m starting to think the best way to run subs is make the stack as light as possible. I.e. try not to run more than you need to to attain your goals.
Then again, none of this is set in stone and go with what feels right.
Thanks ah that’s interesting that you say HS and WB could clash is that definitely obv I wouldn’t want to do that.
Regarding already successful with women I’d say average but not bad I do ok I think but I can tend to have anxious attachment traits and distrust due to a poor previous relationship which also highlighted to me I need better boundaries and probably better self esteem
I do have primal f you think that may be better way to go … what would your stack recommendation for me be? I’m quite happy for it to get uncomfortable for the greater gain long term
Listen to one for 30 seconds one day, and the other the next, to minimize recon. For long-term relationships, choose HS. Otherwise, explore Primal + LB.
Thanks mate , I haven’t noticed much recon in all the time I’ve ran subs not sure why that is? I ran 8 mins of WB a few days ago and the full 15 m on LB … is it that maybe it will come in time and still better to run much shorter loops?
Thanks mate , it’s a toughie I’m not 100% wether I’m looking for long term right now or not, certainly in the immediate future not as I’d like to feel in a better place overall before that. Have used primal in the past I could revisit
I ran Primal + LB + Sanguine for several cycles last year, it didn’t feel that seductive/romantic to me, just FYI.
I think LB made it more self-love/healing than romance drawing. It’s an amazing sub but I don’t think it’s the best choice for seduction/attraction.
Also I would recommend microlooping, starting at 30 seconds, and increasing by 30 seconds until you get noticeable recon, then either stay there until it passes or reduce by 30 seconds.
HS + LB could be good and healing, but I have a question: would you feel better if you hooked up with a girl you were attracted to (or multiple) and even dated some of them? Or would you still feeling past relationship pain? If the former, maybe aim for romance subs, if the latter, then HS + LB very well might do it. Whatever, food for thought.
Is there anything else you want to add or delete?
Don’t think so thanks
As you go back and read this thread, what conclusions have you come to?
Thanks for the info mate.
Regarding recon I can’t pinpoint ever really getting any I used to run the zp subs for the full 15 min made me wonder if I stonewall a bit?
I ran 8 mins of WB and 15 of LB a few days ago and didn’t notice anything.
Good question - I am still actively online dating and chatting but haven’t got any dates lined up right now. Maybe I should aim more for the future and what I want rather than on healing the past ? Hmm tough one