Want to finally decide on a stack

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#1

So I want to decide on a sub or a stack that will help me get out of my head, be open and social and get rid of this feeling of inadequacy around women and people in general.
For as long as I can remember I’ve always been this way - antisocial, soft-spoken, too much in my head and not being able to fully let go and enjoy the moment, unless I’m drinking. I need to become a man!
My intuition is telling me to continue running Primal and this time alone and take as much action as I can but idk.
I’ve been using subclub for about a year but ive been switiching stacks alot and although I know that I’ve made plenty of progress in such a short amount of time, but I still feel like a complete pussycat at times. So I need to stick to a sub or stack for longterm to fix the issues I mention above

I would really appreciate your help guys as I’m sure that there are people that could relate. I would also prefer to use the relevant subs that I already have which are:

Primal
Wanted and Wanted Black
Emperor
Stark and Stark Black
PS
Daredevil

#2

I’d stack:
Primal
PS
Daredevil

but if you happen to already also have Ascension, I’d try:
Primal and Ascension

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#3

Don’t have Ascension unfortunately. So Primal should be the main sub I run for long term it seems.
Another stack that I’m thinking about is Primal and OG Wanted. Wanted because knowing that I’m attractive would already boost my confidence and make me more comfortable around people.
I’ve done this stack for a cycle and really enjoyed it, but I haven’t been out around people at the time to test how I’d be in social interactions

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#4

What about a stepped approach? Idk if this will work or not. Running only Daredevil for a few cycles to really focus in and have experiences that shift your perspective of yourself. Then after refine that more by running primal either alone or alongside daredevil.

The way I see it is you’ve got a pretty high barrier to entry just breaking into socializing. You might have to tackle that first to see what else you should stack. I’d recommend one sub really focused for now because it seems like this is making you really distressed and solving this one aspect will open doors to further growth.

I know it’s tempting to try to hit everything at once. But it often results in waiting longer for results and a lack of focused energy in areas that really need it.

#5

Yeah it is honestly quite distressing and especially since I’d always think that by the age I’m now, I would have solved these issues.
I was thinking that if I was going to include Daredevil then it would be in a stack with Primal, because DD seems to be a pretty light and also very stackable sub. It also doesn’t seem to have enough internal dominance and alpha qualities that I’d like to take care of as well.
Do you reckon that it’d be a good idea to just start with DD and Primal?

#6

Or maybe just Emperor is what I need, something that will give me a kick up the arse, turn my focus away from my worries and all the unnecessary chatter and mold me into the man I want to be.

#7

I would just do DD to see how you respond. It seems light, but what I’ve learned with these subs is you just can’t know how you’ll respond until you run them. Do you know for certain it’s an easy sub to run? It might kick up recon due to the content.

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#8

That’s a very good point

#9

Definetly Primal and Daredevil. Third one is up to your other needs. You could also just run those two.

Further, Primal, DD and ASBR is an insane combo. They synergies incredibly well together, full on focus on magnetism and being in the centre, you’ll always know what to say and do, the confidence is like nothing else. Those three have absolutely no contradiction that I could think off or came across.

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#10

Hmm come to think of it, the only 2 times that I’ve ran ASBR I did feel super talkative and very confident, it actually seemed kinda odd to me at the time how confident it made me feel and so quickly. Maybe that could be an option as well

#11

So question for you @Xelas Have you felt stacking gets you good results? I think it’s important sometimes to reassess strategies if it doesn’t work instead of thinking a perfect stack will unlock things. You had mentioned you’re constantly switching. Why do you think that is?

#12

I definitely had good results with stacking but there would be different reasons for switiching. For example my main goals were always attraction from women and alpha and social benefits. Let’s say that I’m running Wanted and Primal and everything is going great but then I hit recon or the results slow down and my mind instantly goes to switching to another stack, thinking that I’d be getting even more profound results.
Or my goals change and I start thinking that I should be working on getting even more money so I’ll switch to emperor, for example.
Now I’m thinking that if I run just Daredevil for a few cycles then I won’t experience the same level of attraction as when I was running or stacking Wanted.
It’s a very neurotic way of thinking, I know

#13

while everyone advises multiple subs, I would do the opposite. Seems like Primal is ideal for your goals and does exaclty what you need, so why not listen to it solo?

I don’t think one should stack as much subs as possible if one sub already has the scripting for ALL of your objectives. Sure, you can add some missing parts later (or parts you want to emphasize more) but I think it should be done later on, when the majority of the work is already done and you are focusing on smaller refinements

Less subs = faster and deeper results

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#14

This stuck out to me. It seems like you’re dealing with regret which is fueling that desire to try to catch up on everything at once. I definitely relate.

I think there’s long term and short term goals. Some individuals stick it out for the long term. Others get what they need from a certain sub and bounce around as needed. But it sounds like maybe you have to prioritize what’s most important to you right now. If you want a bit of everything but not as deep Genesis covers that. I consider that the anti-fomo sub lol. It hits so many different areas at once and even though it’s not as focused it can quell that inner fear of not getting to everything you want and make it a bit easier to stick to it long term.

I know you don’t have that one but I find Genesis is a good sub when you need improvement in your life but you don’t necessarily know what or where to start. You just need things to get better. But it’s all definitely highly dependent on your own goals and I could be reading too deep into your post here.

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#15

You’re pretty much right about this. I’m still in my 20s but I’ve reached a point where I’m looking back at my life and think that I should’ve accomplished more by now. social life, women, money, business - I could’ve taken more action to achieve success in those aspects if I didn’t have fear, and especially fear of socialising and of what people think of me.
I think what I should do is put less importance on trying to socialize and get chicks and focus on something more important, because I feel like that’s when socialising and women attraction become easier.
So maybe something like Genesis, or even Emperor is what I should go with

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#16

Wanted + Primal sounds like a solid stack for your situation.

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#17

Wanted and Primal was a great stack, although at this very moment I’m leaning more into Emperor or Emperor and Wanted. I ran Emperor for a cycle and from what I can remember it made me very confident and helped me get out of my head when interacting with people, which made every social encounter so much smoother. I can’t quite remember why I stopped it though. Whatever my next stack is gonna be, I need to start a journal so I can look back

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#18

It sounds like Emperor eventually dug deep enough and triggered that need to jump to a different title to avoid it. The funny thing is switching always seems like a good idea, like we think we’ll get better results, it will handle an issue better, think we’ve got the most out of the current sub (almost never the case). In my experience the times when you’re feeling really good are ironically the times when you’re less likely to stick to a title. It’s very sneaky.

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#19

What you said here actually reminded of why I stopped Wanted and Primal. I was enjoying that stack but then I thought that I got enough out of Wanted and switched stack to WB and Primal. I did get some awesome results out of WB and Primal which I also posted in the WB thread, but internally I didn’t feel as good and everything just started to get messy

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#20

Primal and Daredevil for the foundation is sufficient.

Enjoy the change

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