WB is not as harsh on me anymore. i can push it more but I’m also in the middle of the mogul experiment. i don’t want to introduce a third factor into it.
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Cycle 6 Day 4
I did another introspection:
I think the confidence that I put into subs is also indirectly helping my confidence.
“I don’t need to worry, the sub will guide me to do the best course of action”
Of course the subs themselves help with their effects, but the assurance that the sub will help guide you to take the best course of action itself is really good for my level of confidence.
Update 1:
the sub has a script specifically to manifest cologne? i thought the script was only to manifest better physical look, attire and the extras to complement them. not cologne specifically.
this is really exciting, I want to see what it will bring me and from where.
I’ve never really paid attention to perfumes and the like. the most I do is maintain a good level of hygiene and dress well.
I’m not against it, but I don’t actively seek it either. let’s see where the sub guides me.
Update 2:
Seeing people having their energy level increase with khan black makes me want to try it too. i don’t lack energy, I just want to see how a sub can affect my energy level. but I need to focus on my stack. i probably won’t use it for at least 2 years.
Productivity is good today, not as much as yesterday.
Social is like usual, except for the changes in how I talk, everything is the same.
Confidence is good, I’m more certain in whatever I do, especially in a social setting.
I don’t feel the effect of any sub is being suppressed anymore. WB doesn’t overpower LBFH or DRLD anymore, they all blend together well.
i might do 15 minutes of both WB and DRLD tomorrow to see whether it’s because I only used 5.5m per sub yesterday, or because they have all integrated well within me.
Update 3:
What i want might not be what i truly want. Do i want to talk with people or is it my body craving for relations like it’s craving for pizza?
I talk with a lot of people. not only talk, but i’m really close with a lot of them. I felt fulfilled with this before i started WB, but now i feel that it’s not what i truly want. Unlike a week ago, my mind doesn’t reject the idea, it feels really natural.
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Cycle 6 day 6
Not mixing LBFH with WB from the beginning was a good choice. I need more clarity to what WB is doing and that’s what i’m receiving. Stacking it with DRLD is also a good choice. Breaking limits is good, but having the calculated risk scripting from DRLD really helps with confidence.
This is the best decision I’ve had in a while.
Update 1:
I feel less neediness towards other people on a deeper level. It’s like this is me all along. I don’t really feel that i’m becoming something, i feel that it’s me.
WB is a great balancer to LBFH.
I was afraid of being too attached to other people before LBFH, then it showed me that attachment can be healthy too. WB regulates the balance even more.
Update 2:
I think i made the right choice choosing WB.
It’s still not the archetype of a person that i work on to be. But it gives me deeper understandings of who i am, what i want to be, among other great effects of the sub.
Update 3:
RECON!
i’m aware of it just now. it’s not much so it was hard to notice.
i feel hopeless. like what I do doesn’t matter. everything feels like a cliff that’s impossible to climb.
the feeling is similar to the recon two weeks ago, but it’s not only about my social life.
the intensity is not as high, it’s only around 5%. only a bit, but I can feel it.
i don’t mind the recon, but I want to take it easy this cycle. I’ll go back to 5 minutes from tomorrow.
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Cycle 6 day 8
Rest
Social life great
Productivity bad
a lot more sexual advances to me.
running WB DRLD for 30m total was not smart with the mogul experiment. I feel the same decrease in productivity as when I’m overloaded.
no recon. my mental state is better than ever in my life.
Update 1:
I did an introspection and found another hidden recon
My mind is trying to invalidate my results. My logical mind knows that the effects are there, but a part of me is trying to underplay it.
If i were a skeptic, i would say that the sub is not doing a lot. That’s what the recon is making me think, when in reality it’s different.
Update 2:
Greater appreciation to my looks.
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Cycle 6 day 9
DRLD 6m42s WB 5m
I forgot to stop playing DRLD at 5 minutes
I hope there won’t be much recon today, I will be really busy.
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Cycle 6 day 10
Rest
no recon yesterday, productivity normal.
My favorite effects from WB are the decrease in neediness and the increase in emotional control. i like them even more than girls, sex, and other effects from WB. i wish there was a stand alone healing sub with those effects only.
Vipassana greatly boosts my emotional control even further. more than I expected.
I asked the sub to guide me into having greater control of my emotions and a few days later ouroboros posted about vipassana. the manifestation scripting works, rofl.
Update 1:
Productivity high. this really feels like DRLD’s effect.
my head I clearer now, I can see with a level head the difference between what WB’s recon 2 weeks ago brought up and how I feel now compared to then.
less neediness, more emotional control, more girls, more sex drive, more workout motivation.
different feelings of productivity and in socialization.
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Amazing! Glad to hear it 
Had you tried it before I brought it up?
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i have heard about the concept of vipassana before in other forms, but I didn’t pay any attention to them.
now that you have brought it up, the path that I can take is clearer.
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Cycle 6 day 11
DRLD 6m WB 6m
maybe i can take 12 minutes now seeing that I didn’t get much recon on day 9.
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Cycle 6 day 12
Rest
I feel lazier today. it’s a common thing in the day before I listen to mogul. i do it once every 6 days like this:
tomorrow is the decisive day to see if the experiment of treating mogul like ascension chamber is a good idea or not. i didn’t overload myself with WB and DRLD for the past few days, no big recon. it’s a sterile ground to see if using mogul tomorrow will be too much or not.
30 seconds of mogul works. the effects are obvious even with this treatment.
WB5m DRLD5m Mogul30s is also not as heavy as listening to WB15m DRLD15m, but this is not conclusive yet. i still need to see how it will turn out after I do it again tomorrow.
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Cycle 6 day 13
Mogul 30s DRLD 5m WB 5m
not much recon yet
no immediate feeling of getting overexposed.
the big recon usually hits on the next day though, so let’s see how it will turn out tomorrow.
I wish there were a stand alone sub with WB’s effect of increasing emotional control and decreasing neediness. i love those effects so much.
maybe those are included in sanguine or DR, but I want to wait until the ZPv2 MAX version of those comes out first.
Update 1:
6 hours after listening
no recon
The distinct feeling of productivity from mogul is present
Update 2:
I did a deep introspection to make sure about recon.
there’s only the small feeling of getting ignored by other people that’s pretty much constant throughout the WB experience.
the feeling is really small, not as much as when I started WB 2 weeks ago. i really had to dig deep to notice this feeling. but it’s there.
other than that, no big recon at all.
WB makes my physical look better. i don’t care if it’s only how I see it or if my body is actually shifting, the shift in how I look at myself is more than enough. I’m satisfied with the results. WB works.
Update 3:
no recon. sexual life enhanced. wb drld are great, but I miss LBFH. 6 more days until I can finally play LBFH again.
if only chosen had the goodies that wb has in it like the emotional control, socialization, and destroying neediness effects, i’d have switched immediately. but wb is good enough for now. more than enough.
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Cycle 6 day 14
productivity is good
Update 1:
I feel taller. WB is changing my views of my body in different ways.
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Cycle 6 day 15
WB 6m30s DRLD 6m30s
I hope adding 30s would not be too heavy.
no recon from yesterday. i think that concluded the experiment:
-i can stack a microloop of mogul every 6 days, get the effects of it, and not get overexposed.
-the effects are not as noticeable anymore on the 5th day.
-there’s no noticeable decrease in the effects of DRLD and WB.
I will switch mogul to the 21st day instead of the 19th to get more clarity on the effects of LBFH and mogul individually.
this is not conclusive yet. there is still a lot that has to be experimented on. but with this experiment at least I know that the concept works.
Update 1:
I’m more sexually active. It’s a good balancer to the productivity from mogul and DRLD
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Cycle 6 day 16
Rest
I will start using LBFH tomorrow, It’s earlier than the planned schedule but it’s the only sub that i care about running. WB has integrated well within me and i have found out what LBFH’s bloom feels like. there’s really no reason to delay it any further.
Maybe I will make a custom of LBFH & productivity cores/modules. the lack of productivity was the reason why i started listening to mogul in the first place.
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Cycle 6 day 17
WB 6m LBFH 10m
multiple instant manifestations. that’s the only way I can describe what happened.
it’s distinctly LBFH. i know what it looks like, what it feels like, it’s LBFH’s doing.
Update 1:
The overflowing self love is back.
There’s also a strange effect. There is a different feeling behind the upper part of my nose, not a bad or annoying one, just different.
I love WB’s effects on reducing neediness, increasing emotional control, social skills, and physical shifting. I don’t even care about the effects on the increase in attractiveness or girls anymore, the effects above are all i want.
I’ve been thinking about making a custom lately. LBFH core + productivity + emotional control + detachment + social skills
I don’t know what module / sub deals with neediness like WB does though, something that helps with detachment. It’s a great balancer to LBFH.
Edit: nevermind, I found the module “love without attachment”.
The physical shifting is great, i love how it makes me look at my body in a different light, but i can live without it.
I’ll wait until ZPv2 MAX is out first before making one though. I’ll also make another thread for advice.
Update 2:
the crying effect is back again.
It doesn’t feel like a recon, it’s more like I’m allowing myself to be vulnerable towards myself. it’s freeing.
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What did you manifest?
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People contacting me and a work related one
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Cycle 6 day 18
Rest
i feel better about everything. LBFH gives a different kind of confidence than DRLD.
I asked about the custom I had in mind in another post and got a lot of good replies.
i decided to try the normal RM or UA first. if I don’t feel the same amount of productivity as when I’m using mogul + drld, then I will make the custom with modules focusing on productivity and see how it goes.
Update 1:
The manifestation was there, but not as much as when I’m using LBFH &/ Ascension Chamber. AC does work, I don’t think there’s a reason to not use it other than recon or the mogul microloop experiment that I’m doing. If using AC is too overwhelming then cut the playtime of the stack.
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How so?
Why don’t you perceive Chosen as having these characteristics? IMO chosen does all those. It may hit those traits differently but it does work in them. WB would be because “you’re so attractive on WB” that you don’t need to be needy, and because social and emotional control are attractive, while with Chosen it would come from social/emotional regulation, a sense of deep inner positivity and ease, slight emotional healing… Saint called GLM:Co + LBFH a “bootstrapped version of chosen” just to give you a sense of the connection between LBFH and chosen, there are some similarities. But that emotional regulation and positive leadership from chosen would result in non-neediness, ease of socializing, and emotional control
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more vigor and less feeling of being limited. i think this is also because of DRLD.
I only looked at the product description, WB says it clearly while it’s quite vaguely implied with Chosen.
that’s a good point. maybe I should not rely on the description too much and just use the sub to see how will it work.
i have a lot of subs to try from your recommendations now lol. i will drop WB tomorrow to have the 12 days of breathing room before swapping it to chosen. I’ll stack it with LBFH and Genesis/RM.
Edit 1:
I dug around the forum, I decided that I’ll run LBFH + Genesis + UA next cycle.
Chosen can wait until after I’ve finished DR. RM is amazing but I don’t want to focus on some of the goals yet.
Edit 2:
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