Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

Rest day 4

There are no dreams, unlike the last 2 washout periods.

A part of my confidence is rising, but a part of it is still lower than before I used WB.

there’s something strange, I feel like my mind is being overloaded every time I think about my physical goals.


Update 1:

Productivity is high as usual, but motivation is not.

Recon from WB is down to only around 5% of the train wreck that was 3 days ago.

Workout is amazing, it’s really effortless. More than before i used WB.


Update 2:

I did another introspection.

I’m doing less mental wrestling compared to before i used SC. The effect is gradual so i didn’t notice it until now.

The tranquility script in LBFH is working well.


Update 3:

Productivity is gone, it’s just not there. I’m dragging myself by force.

Recon is gone. no recon, I just can’t feel the effects of other subs, no productivity boost, no overflowing self-love, etc. Of course, they are not completely gone, but you know what I mean. maybe processing WB’s script is taking priority in my head now.


Update 4:

I can’t feel the no PMO effect from DRLD anymore. I’m holding it through sheer willpower alone right now.


Update 5:

Productivity is fluctuating

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I originally wanted to write this in the WB product discussion thread, but I decided that it’s not appropriate to write this reply there:

Found this while searching “productivity” in this thread

I was having a similar recon.
I felt like people were ignoring me while in reality, they were not.
the feeling was really intense a few days ago though it has been subsiding now. i wrote more about the intensity in my journal. but it was strong enough that I felt like they were not just ignoring me, they were “missing” (gotta rephrase this word) from my reality.

The feeling of insecurity from it was also really strong.

I’m also having lack of productivity because the shift in my mindset affected one of the foundations of my motivation to be productive. that was worse a few days about because it was on top of the other recons.

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Rest day 5

Productivity is back. the feeling of no limit when doing it is back. motivation is back.

i can’t wait to see what will happen tomorrow after I listen to WB & DRLD again.


I thought about this last night, I wanted to use chosen, but it doesn’t have the social, cognitive, and wealth scripting like stark. That or I couldn’t find those on the sales page’s description. i want to support the people around me, but LBFH is doing that job just fine. CFW is still interesting though.

after a few cycles of WB, I’ll change it to stark or RM.


Update 1:

I feel normal today. I’m glad i started WB before a washout, i can take the time to process the effects before bombarding my mind in the next cycle


Update 2:

I’m thinking about whether i should add LBFH into my stack next cycle or not. There’s still room, but running 3 subs feels too much for me.

Productivity is high. DRLD is doing its magic.


Update 3:

Productivity is… i feel like it’s high, but when measured objectively it’s not as high as before I used WB. more like it’s a bit higher than before I started SC, but not mogul + DRLD kind of high.

this is really interesting, I’m having a lot of fun exploring subs.

socially:
-i feel less desire to stick around. if it’s not interesting, I go.
-i feel less connection to people as I’ve written for the past few days.
-i feel the urge to text my old girl friends. i feel the resistance is being wiped out. this is really random.

workout still feels really effortless.
I still feel really thirsty, I drink a lot more. nothing has changed except for starting WB. it’s purely from it.
this is new, i feel more hungry too now. I eat a lot in general, i keep it reasonably healthy too. but even with that, i still feel more hungry than usual.
my body is really needing a lot more fuel to process WB.


I think i need to clarify again before moving to the next cycle that i listened to 3 subs on day 19 (drld + lbfh in the morning, wb for 30s in the night) because i couldn’t wait to use wb lol

Then i accidentally played wb for 15m on day 21 plus DRLD for a few minutes.

I listened to the MAX MAX of zpv2 in the artisan line outside of the recommended way. So all the recon above is partly worsen by this too.

Expect the recon to not be as severe if you are following the guidelines properly.

I do gain a lot out of it, especially about understanding recon & myself. Lessons learned, don’t stack 3 in a day unless you know what you are doing, and start small. Now i have the first hand experience of why.

Most importantly, i learned about the potential value of clarity & certainty in dealing with recon. I want to experiment more on these.

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Cycle 6 Day 2 rest

Productivity high.
i want to go back to work, I’ll update this journal later


Update 1:

“I don’t need to talk with them” is the reoccurring thought that has been happening lately.
I want to, but I don’t need to. which sounds cool and all but the feelings clash with each other a bit.
I need to internalize WB more into my being.

I’m more thirsty. i drink a lot more than usual.


Update 2:

Productivity is really high.

I feel less need to respond if I don’t need to.

i can feel LBFH’s effect again, maybe it’s blooming, or WB’s self love script is helping.

no recon, even with 3 subs stacked, no diminishing effects either. let’s see if treating mogul with 30s microloops only like ascension chamber is realistic or not.

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WB is not as harsh on me anymore. i can push it more but I’m also in the middle of the mogul experiment. i don’t want to introduce a third factor into it.

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Cycle 6 Day 4

I did another introspection:

I think the confidence that I put into subs is also indirectly helping my confidence.

“I don’t need to worry, the sub will guide me to do the best course of action”

Of course the subs themselves help with their effects, but the assurance that the sub will help guide you to take the best course of action itself is really good for my level of confidence.


Update 1:

the sub has a script specifically to manifest cologne? i thought the script was only to manifest better physical look, attire and the extras to complement them. not cologne specifically.

this is really exciting, I want to see what it will bring me and from where.

I’ve never really paid attention to perfumes and the like. the most I do is maintain a good level of hygiene and dress well.
I’m not against it, but I don’t actively seek it either. let’s see where the sub guides me.


Update 2:

Seeing people having their energy level increase with khan black makes me want to try it too. i don’t lack energy, I just want to see how a sub can affect my energy level. but I need to focus on my stack. i probably won’t use it for at least 2 years.

Productivity is good today, not as much as yesterday.
Social is like usual, except for the changes in how I talk, everything is the same.
Confidence is good, I’m more certain in whatever I do, especially in a social setting.

I don’t feel the effect of any sub is being suppressed anymore. WB doesn’t overpower LBFH or DRLD anymore, they all blend together well.

i might do 15 minutes of both WB and DRLD tomorrow to see whether it’s because I only used 5.5m per sub yesterday, or because they have all integrated well within me.


Update 3:

What i want might not be what i truly want. Do i want to talk with people or is it my body craving for relations like it’s craving for pizza?

I talk with a lot of people. not only talk, but i’m really close with a lot of them. I felt fulfilled with this before i started WB, but now i feel that it’s not what i truly want. Unlike a week ago, my mind doesn’t reject the idea, it feels really natural.

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Cycle 6 day 6

Not mixing LBFH with WB from the beginning was a good choice. I need more clarity to what WB is doing and that’s what i’m receiving. Stacking it with DRLD is also a good choice. Breaking limits is good, but having the calculated risk scripting from DRLD really helps with confidence.

This is the best decision I’ve had in a while.


Update 1:

I feel less neediness towards other people on a deeper level. It’s like this is me all along. I don’t really feel that i’m becoming something, i feel that it’s me.

WB is a great balancer to LBFH.

I was afraid of being too attached to other people before LBFH, then it showed me that attachment can be healthy too. WB regulates the balance even more.


Update 2:

I think i made the right choice choosing WB.

It’s still not the archetype of a person that i work on to be. But it gives me deeper understandings of who i am, what i want to be, among other great effects of the sub.


Update 3:

RECON!

i’m aware of it just now. it’s not much so it was hard to notice.

i feel hopeless. like what I do doesn’t matter. everything feels like a cliff that’s impossible to climb.

the feeling is similar to the recon two weeks ago, but it’s not only about my social life.
the intensity is not as high, it’s only around 5%. only a bit, but I can feel it.

i don’t mind the recon, but I want to take it easy this cycle. I’ll go back to 5 minutes from tomorrow.

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Cycle 6 day 8

Rest

Social life great
Productivity bad

a lot more sexual advances to me.
running WB DRLD for 30m total was not smart with the mogul experiment. I feel the same decrease in productivity as when I’m overloaded.

no recon. my mental state is better than ever in my life.


Update 1:

I did an introspection and found another hidden recon

My mind is trying to invalidate my results. My logical mind knows that the effects are there, but a part of me is trying to underplay it.

If i were a skeptic, i would say that the sub is not doing a lot. That’s what the recon is making me think, when in reality it’s different.


Update 2:

Greater appreciation to my looks.

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Cycle 6 day 9

DRLD 6m42s WB 5m

I forgot to stop playing DRLD at 5 minutes
I hope there won’t be much recon today, I will be really busy.

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Cycle 6 day 10

Rest

no recon yesterday, productivity normal.

My favorite effects from WB are the decrease in neediness and the increase in emotional control. i like them even more than girls, sex, and other effects from WB. i wish there was a stand alone healing sub with those effects only.

Vipassana greatly boosts my emotional control even further. more than I expected.

I asked the sub to guide me into having greater control of my emotions and a few days later ouroboros posted about vipassana. the manifestation scripting works, rofl.


Update 1:

Productivity high. this really feels like DRLD’s effect.
my head I clearer now, I can see with a level head the difference between what WB’s recon 2 weeks ago brought up and how I feel now compared to then.
less neediness, more emotional control, more girls, more sex drive, more workout motivation.
different feelings of productivity and in socialization.

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Amazing! Glad to hear it :slight_smile:

Had you tried it before I brought it up?

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i have heard about the concept of vipassana before in other forms, but I didn’t pay any attention to them.
now that you have brought it up, the path that I can take is clearer.

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Cycle 6 day 11

DRLD 6m WB 6m

maybe i can take 12 minutes now seeing that I didn’t get much recon on day 9.

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Cycle 6 day 12

Rest

I feel lazier today. it’s a common thing in the day before I listen to mogul. i do it once every 6 days like this:

tomorrow is the decisive day to see if the experiment of treating mogul like ascension chamber is a good idea or not. i didn’t overload myself with WB and DRLD for the past few days, no big recon. it’s a sterile ground to see if using mogul tomorrow will be too much or not.

30 seconds of mogul works. the effects are obvious even with this treatment.
WB5m DRLD5m Mogul30s is also not as heavy as listening to WB15m DRLD15m, but this is not conclusive yet. i still need to see how it will turn out after I do it again tomorrow.

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Cycle 6 day 13

Mogul 30s DRLD 5m WB 5m

not much recon yet
no immediate feeling of getting overexposed.
the big recon usually hits on the next day though, so let’s see how it will turn out tomorrow.

I wish there were a stand alone sub with WB’s effect of increasing emotional control and decreasing neediness. i love those effects so much.
maybe those are included in sanguine or DR, but I want to wait until the ZPv2 MAX version of those comes out first.


Update 1:

6 hours after listening

no recon
The distinct feeling of productivity from mogul is present


Update 2:

I did a deep introspection to make sure about recon.
there’s only the small feeling of getting ignored by other people that’s pretty much constant throughout the WB experience.

the feeling is really small, not as much as when I started WB 2 weeks ago. i really had to dig deep to notice this feeling. but it’s there.

other than that, no big recon at all.


WB makes my physical look better. i don’t care if it’s only how I see it or if my body is actually shifting, the shift in how I look at myself is more than enough. I’m satisfied with the results. WB works.


Update 3:

no recon. sexual life enhanced. wb drld are great, but I miss LBFH. 6 more days until I can finally play LBFH again.

if only chosen had the goodies that wb has in it like the emotional control, socialization, and destroying neediness effects, i’d have switched immediately. but wb is good enough for now. more than enough.

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Cycle 6 day 14

productivity is good


Update 1:

I feel taller. WB is changing my views of my body in different ways.

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Cycle 6 day 15

WB 6m30s DRLD 6m30s

I hope adding 30s would not be too heavy.

no recon from yesterday. i think that concluded the experiment:
-i can stack a microloop of mogul every 6 days, get the effects of it, and not get overexposed.
-the effects are not as noticeable anymore on the 5th day.
-there’s no noticeable decrease in the effects of DRLD and WB.

I will switch mogul to the 21st day instead of the 19th to get more clarity on the effects of LBFH and mogul individually.

this is not conclusive yet. there is still a lot that has to be experimented on. but with this experiment at least I know that the concept works.


Update 1:

I’m more sexually active. It’s a good balancer to the productivity from mogul and DRLD

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Cycle 6 day 16

Rest

I will start using LBFH tomorrow, It’s earlier than the planned schedule but it’s the only sub that i care about running. WB has integrated well within me and i have found out what LBFH’s bloom feels like. there’s really no reason to delay it any further.

Maybe I will make a custom of LBFH & productivity cores/modules. the lack of productivity was the reason why i started listening to mogul in the first place.

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Cycle 6 day 17

WB 6m LBFH 10m

multiple instant manifestations. that’s the only way I can describe what happened.
it’s distinctly LBFH. i know what it looks like, what it feels like, it’s LBFH’s doing.


Update 1:

The overflowing self love is back.
There’s also a strange effect. There is a different feeling behind the upper part of my nose, not a bad or annoying one, just different.

I love WB’s effects on reducing neediness, increasing emotional control, social skills, and physical shifting. I don’t even care about the effects on the increase in attractiveness or girls anymore, the effects above are all i want.


I’ve been thinking about making a custom lately. LBFH core + productivity + emotional control + detachment + social skills

I don’t know what module / sub deals with neediness like WB does though, something that helps with detachment. It’s a great balancer to LBFH.
Edit: nevermind, I found the module “love without attachment”.

The physical shifting is great, i love how it makes me look at my body in a different light, but i can live without it.

I’ll wait until ZPv2 MAX is out first before making one though. I’ll also make another thread for advice.


Update 2:

the crying effect is back again.

It doesn’t feel like a recon, it’s more like I’m allowing myself to be vulnerable towards myself. it’s freeing.

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What did you manifest?

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