Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

Journals - Major Programs
#946

I wholeheartedly agree.
And disagree at the same time.

At the moment, I run subs for short term goals,
while the long-term goals are staying the same.

I’ve built my custom to find a job in sales and prepare me optimally for it. Now that I have a training position, my needs changed, so I changed the subs.

I think it makes a major difference if you’ve sorted out a lot already, like you did.
Or if you’ve just realized how bad it actually is, and you’re struggling to survive, like me.

Where you are the captain of a pretty yacht, looking to improve your navigation skills and overhauling the interior,
I’m fighting to survive in a leaky submarine and have to make adjustments regularly. I just can’t afford to get a new interior because the moment I would put my energy on such a long-term project, I wouldn’t stop the boat from sinking.

It’s not that I wouldn’t love to run a stack for nine months straight. Especially AA, LB or Primal, would offer so much. But for the moment I need fast acting subs like Ascension or LE.

I hope you’re getting what I want to say.

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#947

Yes, we agree on the same thing.

I should have written it better and put more emphasis on the “emergency & short term goals”.

You’re right though, my short term & long term goals are usually aligned most of the time, and the subs are holistic enough to cover all of them. So i wasn’t really considering situations like yours when i was writing that.

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#951

Completely agree here. There are going to be “staple” subs. Then there’s always the subs like PN or LE or whatever you want to just get a quick result. But they should only be sampled if you’re consistent with your main sub.

In this case I love being able to transition to a sub that incorporates a lot of the same elements. Like transitioning from Mogul to Emperor, and/or Emperor to E:TWP/EmpD/HOM, or from Love Bomb to Heartsong, or from any combination of Genesis/Mogul/RM:W/RoM all of which share many similar "purpose "scripts.

I think you’re right here - and i’d add that if Ascension is working for you, you should keep it for 6-9+ months.

HeO has a much broader objectives list than LBFH so I’m not surprised. it’s a deep title. It’s also got the “unfolding” effect which is unique to HeO and the Revelation series, where results happen without a need to take action. Perhaps that unfolding effect is what you’re feeling is missing.

I’d bet $1000 that EmpD would do this very well - I can just imagine you using some Wisdom Energy to watch someone start an unimportant argument with you and you letting them win in a way where you look good… the more mature warrior letting the youngling swing his sword wildly, with the youngling thinking he’s being intimidating while everyone around him cowers in submission, but with everyone else thinking he’s being rash and immature and showcasing his own inexperience in leadership.

But I also think that RoM would do SO much for you in terms of this. I’ve always thought RoM would be great for you. There’s elements of it in Limitless, and RM:UA, and HeO. It has an intense pursuit of the mastery of knowledge and of the mastery of the mind, and directly works on analytical skills, understanding about everything, etc. etc.

Don’t let me switch you off your stack or anything. But if you do, I think you’d like these more than ETWP. But DRR1 is a beast that will provide a lot, even when run solo.

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#953

As for this…

That ^ makes total sense.

:eyes:

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#954

Just as i wrote about an idea of a sub that focuses on open mindedness yesterday. The new PR shows exactly what i want in a sub like that.

These are amazing for self growth outside of romance. Imagine how the effects will affect everything else. Self growth, healing, relations with others, creativity etc.

The goals of PR sound beautiful, i will absolutely run it when i choose to be in a relationship. Then i will consciously guide the understanding scripting so it affects more than just my relationship.

I think this is the only primal sub i’m seriously considering using. I still haven’t felt the tingles to get into it yet though. My focus is still elsewhere. so it will be later in the future.

Edit:

It’s confirmed that it will work outside of romance too, i’m so gonna use this sub.

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#956

DRR1 15m LE 30s

I have been using subs that have productivity scripting in them for more than a year.
Mogul, RM:UWX, RM:V, HeO.
There is cognitive enhancement scripting in most of them too.

The foundation has been laid out, so I will use +30s every listening day.

Edit 1:
Nah, there’s no use in rushing. I’ll use +15s instead.

Edit 2:
Actually, I can afford to experiment for the next few weeks. I might as well try LE for +30s and DRR2 before I get really busy again.

Update 1:

I feel nothing different.
No recon at all.

This is exciting. That means it’s similar productivity & creativity to RM:UWX but with less focus on writing. Just a broad enhancement towards my productivity & creativity like usual.

This is what i want.

30s is this promising.
I can’t wait to see what will happen if i listen to more.
I’ll jump straight to 7m.

I shouldn’t be too reserved. There are reasons to increase exposure.

  • I have built up the base for productivity & creativity scripting for more than a year.
  • It’s an older & lighter sub.
  • It’s totally aligned with my life.
  • There is no recon at all.
  • And my schedule is free enough to take the risk for the next few weeks.

If this works like how i think it would, DRR1 + LE would be the most invisible stack i’ll ever use.
It’s a broad yet focused stack. I like it.

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#957

The only thing i don’t really like about LE is how it has Beyond Limitless.
BL is for short term goals. The description says it itself.

I’m here for the long run. I’m sure LE would be great if i use it for long, but I want a sub that will give me the best bang for the bucks.

That’s why i decided to stay with my plan and make the custom i planned with Limitless, UA and modules for productivity, creativity & meditation.
I’ll make it in 3-4 months.
The goals are similar. productivity, creativity, & meditation, but customized to my needs & for long term growth.

So LE now will act like a stage 1 to the custom.

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#958

The 11 on 4 off schedule is working well so far.

This is superior than anything above 13 - 15 listening days.
Even with 4 rest days instead of 5.

No overload symptoms at all.
I don’t feel that distinctive load around day 15-18, and definitely no debilitating weight & lethargy around day 19 - 23 (this is not an exaggeration, that is 1 common side effect I consistently felt around that time period regardless of what sub i used).

This schedule is perfect.
Listening time always starts at the 1st & 16th of the month. Washouts always at the 12th & 27th.
With february as the only exception. Use 9 on 4/5 off on the 16th of february (Or take a 13/14 days of washouts this time every year).
When there’s 31 days in the month, use 11 on 5 off on the 16th.

No more awkwardly trying to fit 26 days into the schedule.

6 total listening days in 11 days.
An even number makes stacking 3 subs less awkward.
In the normal 21 on 5 off, the third sub always get 1 less loop than the first & second.

I have also tested 9 on 4 off for months. It worked well. So 11 is definitely not “too short” by any means.

After testing various schedules for more than a year, i found out that:

  • Mon Wed Fri with rest on the weekends is not enough. 2 days of rest, even if there are 2-3 weekends in a cycle, is not enough to mitigate the overload symptoms near the end of the cycle. (Tagging @Fire & @SaintSovereign to take this one into consideration since you guys mentioned the weekend strategy for the new pdf)
  • 3 rest days in the middle of a cycle is the bare minimum. It’s not optimal nor sustainable in the long run, but it actually does something than just 2.
  • With only 11 days, 4 is optimal.
  • 5 is great.

With the 11 on 4 off schedule, there’s no need to vaguely tell people to “take extra rest days in the middle of the cycle”. It’s built-in in the schedule using the most consistently optimal 4 days of rest.

#959

I can totally see how you got there, especially because Limitless and QL are both updated while BL hasn’t been (neither the product nor the copy).

ZP made all titles more “fast acting.” But back in the day, Beyond Limitless was an “ultima” product, and Ultima was the counterpart to Qv2, which was meant to be listened to the same day you wanted to get results.

When the copy is referring to BL being good for “Short Term Goals” that’s still very much referring to the technology (ultima) as much as or more than the script (beyond limitless).

But with that being said, of course if you want the title that gives you extreme long-term results and doesn’t worry about how fast you get there, QL is the way to go. It’s SUPER enhancement on the physical, hormonal, neural, emotional levels, anything that might have anything to do with your brain, so you can improve cognition. I think ST2 especially focuses on creativity out of the four stages.

BL just kinda directly targets creativity and productivity without the other stuff.

You’re gonna love LE, whether you keep it as a sub for a long time or you use it as stage 1.

Personally, I wouldn’t sleep on how effective of a results enhancer LE can be, because the scripting isn’t just about cognition, it’s also about performance, meaning it helps you perform at your best every day.

And that means less recon and more action

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#960

That could be the case. I’m guessing out of the lack of information that the scripting is still targetted towards short term enhancements. I wonder what they will spin BL & LE as when they update them.

We have microloops now for short term goals anyway. So I kinda don’t see the point of them if it’s solely for cognitive enhancement.

I would love to use QL instead of Limitless, but I plan to run the custom alongside DRR1.
2 multistagers in a stack sounds a bit risky.
Maybe I’ll add it as the 4th stage after i’m done with DRR.
(stage 1: LE, 2: Limitless + UA, 3: RoM + UA, 4: QL + UA)

Yep, I’m sure of it. Every single productivity & creativity sub i’ve ever used from SC, when combined with either DRLD or DRR1, always work really well.

LE is just a more distilled & focused version of them. no extra stuff.
Just productivity, cognitive enhancement & meditation boost. All that i need to pair with DRR1.

This is what i’m after with LE. simple & straightforward for what truly matters to me.
I wish they upgrade LE to be more compatible with long term goals too. I might ditch my plan to make a custom altogether if they do that in less than a few months from now, rofl.

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#963

A bit of a late testimony, but i decided that it’s fine to post this.

I actually used mogul for 1 loop earlier this month. I needed to get more stuff for efficiency and i wanted to fund it faster. Those were a bit expensive so i originally planned to use mogul for 1-2 months.

Then i listened to mogul once, somehow i got super lucky the next day and managed to gather all the funds needed in only a few days.

I still can’t wrap my head around how absurd the manifestation worked.

The wealth manifestation is no joke, rofl.
1 loop was enough as long as there are pathways for manifestations.

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I might delete this later, i always hold back on writing anything about mogul’s results. But this is just too good to not share.

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#964

I don’t say I envy you.
But I still kinda do :joy:
You’re getting all these crazy results. Even crazy financial results from UWX, now with one run of GM again.
Little me running financial subs for over a year now, and I only got triple of what I invested in subs…

But I was at a completely different starting point. There’s a lot of internal stuff to clear through before money can flow freely.

Or maybe this is a believe I need to clear first…

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#965

There must be a bit of wealth scripting too from the other subs in my stack. But the sheer absurdity of the manifestation couldn’t be from anything else other than Mogul.

And just like how Mogul always does, the manifestation didn’t come completely randomly. It was absurd, but it was from pathways that were already laid out in my life. I just did my best to seize them.

This is always the case with Mogul, the more you open channels for wealth to flow into your life, the more effective it is.

Yeah, admittedly, I came to Mogul without many internal blockages about wealth towards my goals to begin with. So it’s understandable that I have it easier with wealth scripting.
The internal stuff will clear out over time with enough experience & sub usage. Don’t worry about it.

I find DRR to be the best sub for cleansing blockages.
Big and small, even the ones you’re not aware of.
You should try it when a slot opens up in your stack.

Maybe Mogul worked exceptionally fast this time because there were blockages that got melted down by DRR1 behind the scenes. It kinda makes sense since this is the first time I’ve ever had significant gains this quickly.

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#967

The thing that I started because of the inspiration from running RM:V is finally in full operation.
I can’t believe saying “fuck it, imma do it” actually worked.

How long ago did I start working on it? 3 - 4 months ago?
I never would have expected everything to be this quick.
Thanks Mogul, rofl.

I’m so excited for what’s to come.
Idk if this will end up well or not, only time can tell. Whatever happens, at least I can say “yes, I did it”, lol.

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#969

Fuck it, i’m gonna test it myself.

I want a more straightforward custom and i know i only need a simple one for my goals, but i’m also curious as heck about whether it’s too much or not.

I’m gonna add NR back into into the custom i planned for 3 months from now. I’ll use it for at least 2 months. If it ends up being too dense, i’ll just remake it with only ME + Limitless. It will only cost $100 + 2 months anyway. That’s barely nothing.

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#973

I’m getting a reaction

I feel more easily irritable & jealous lately.
This is really exciting because this could be from LE.
Maybe this is what recon from LE feels like.
Finally i can feel something from the sub.

This could be from DRR1 though.
In which case; what the fuck? I have been using it for more than 3 months and this is the first time i get hit by a recon like this. The feeling is different from anything DRR1 has ever given to me, so i’m a bit skeptical that it is from DRR1.

The recon is not overpowering.
I’m more excited than annoyed by it, LE is finally giving me a reaction.

#974

This are the answers I got on Limitless VS LE

Both of them experimented a lot on productivity. So I trust their assessment.

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#975

I see, I didn’t mess up then, rofl.

#976

I think i’ve been consistently getting recon in the washout periods.
This washout I’m doing now is 5 days long since I did 13 days.
I guess maybe this is from DRR1? this is the only sub that might cause this.

#977

@Parsifal just to be fully transparent, you got that advice from Niles and I because you were asking entering into the sales industry.

But it’s not an overall assertion that LE is a generally better sub.

@Viktor I didn’t say anything because I know you’re a beast at processing subs, but I gasp at the thought of a 15 min loop.

LE was the sub thatenabled me to really feel the difference between normal and microloopw.

If I listened to a 3 ,in loop the night beforehand I didn’t get any productivity gains. It was usually a slight dip in productivity.

But 1 min the night before or 30s the day of and my productivity and joy working and results skyrocketed.

I saved 3-7 min loops for the weekend or Friday night when I could process it

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