I guess my conscious guidance towards productivity is so strong that it makes DRR1 focus on healing & clearing the path that supports it.
maybe it’s collaborating intensely with the productivity scripting from the other subs in my stack.
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Yes, most likely. It’s not that DR RED can’t be used for productivity, I was just reminding everyone that DR Gold contains scripting specifically for it.
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I think mon-wed-fri for 21 days is not the play for me.
I feel more exhausted and out of it on rest days lately, even though I’m doing less work overall.
Not confirmed, but this feels very similar to the subtle overexposure symptoms I usually felt back then before i used 9 on 4 off 9 on 4 off.
The only way to find out is to get more data.
I’ll use it again the next cycle and compare how I feel near the end of the cycle.
By then I’ll have a better idea about whether it’s caused by the schedule or other factors.
The 2 rest days on the weekends might not be enough for me.
I need at least 3 to 4 consecutive rest days in the middle of the cycle.
Or, I should stop before day 15. I found that I only feel the symptoms if I go over it.
I’m fine with recon like the one from DRR2, but anything that risks lethargy is a no.
That goes against my main goal of using subs.
Nevermind, experimentation is not worth it right now. I gotta focus.
I’ll just go back to the tried & tested 9 on 4 off 9 on 4 off. though i want to try 3 & 5 instead of 4 & 4.
Update 1:
Yep, this is the familiar subtle overexposure symptom that usually shows up near the end of a cycle.
It feels exactly like every single one i’ve felt in the past.
Mon-wed-fri is not cutting it.
I need longer rest days in the middle.
I’ll start the washout early (this is the 20th day) and try 11 on 4 off 9 on 4 off next cycle.
I’ve been wanting to try 11 on 4 off for a long time. This is a good opportunity to test it out.
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Yesterday was bad
The overload symptom gave me a layer of lethargy & out of focus that i needed to push through.
By the last hours of the day, i gave up and just did nothing.
This is distinctly the overload symptom near the end of a 21 day cycle that i’ve experienced too in the past.
I’ve also felt it building up since before but i just brushed it off as me being lazy.
Compared to a few weeks ago, i rest more, i eat more, i sleep properly, etc. so it’s unlikely that those are the culprit.
At least now i know that 2 times 2 consecutive rest days in the middle of a cycle is not enough.
3 is the minimum, 4 is optimal.
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My head feels lighter now.
That was definitely the overexposure symptom.
19 days is too much. Even with rests at weekends.
The most i’ll do is 15 days without at least 4 days of rest consecutively.
I decided to stop the forum for a while
The experiment is done.
I’ve said most things from DRR1 too.
I also doubt HeO will be updated soon either.
There’s nothing more to share on the journal since i always keep myself away from writing anything specific about my life online anyway.
It’s time to give the focus elsewhere.
At least for the time being.
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I’m rethinking my decision to continue using HeO.
Here is a snippet from my offline journal about it.
“I have gotten everything i need from HeO”
This feeling never goes away since around half a year ago, maybe more.
Objectively speaking, if i assess the changes that it has brought to my life, I have indeed gained everything i need from it.
The only reasons i’m still using it are to maintain its effects and make the changes stick more permanently.
Is this my intuition telling me that i have had enough exposure to HeO?
I’ve been using it for more than 12 cycles anyway.
Maybe I’ve outgrown HeO?
It has done its job.
When i took the HeO hiatus, I noticed some of the effects were getting a bit weaker. But the changes it brought over the year are mostly still intact.
Now that I’m back to it, I’m realizing that what i lost are not even worth mentioning. I have integrated well with the changes after almost 1 year of using it.
Not sure if i should stick with it or not.
It has done what i want it to do.
I have used it long enough to where the changes have stuck.
I’ll stick with it for now and think about it more in the middle/end of the month.
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I think you will still grow if you use it continually over the next decade.
But growth for it’s own sake is meaningless.
I’d go back to my goals, what I want to achieve, what I want to change in my life.
If HeO can still help you, good.
If there are better subs for your goals, drop it.
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Honestly, i haven’t seen much changes inside from HeO since half a year ago.
I kept using it just to maintain the effects that are already there. making them stick deeper & longer.
You’re right, it has done its job. I can drop it to focus on other improvements. Maybe i’ll use it once in a while just to refresh the scripting.
I don’t know what to replace it with though.
I’m not really interested in running another sub other than DRR1 now. It hits every parts that i want to improve other than creativity.
Using DRR1 with RM or UA would be nice, but i think i’ll solo it for the time being.
It’s the sub that i want & need the most for my current circumstances.
So i think it’s better to give more focus on DRR1 alone when i don’t terribly want/need to use a another sub.
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When in doubt, Chosen or Genesis are always good!
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I just figured out that this is indeed the case.
The degree of productivity is different when i was running DRR1 with different subs.
DRR1 + HeO gave me the least. This is a big part of the reasons why i decided to swap out HeO for other subs. It has done its job and the effects that i want to stay have stuck around. I love using HeO, but i want to focus more on creativity & productivity now.
The productivity boost from HeO felt less direct compared to the other subs.
Now that i think about it, maybe that’s why i needed 2 “productivity” subs (HeO + something else) to balance out LBFH. HeO didn’t even give me that big of a boost in the first place, so i needed to add a sub that has more productivity boost to go toe to toe with the slight lethargy & the general outgoingness from LBFH.
Although the evidence is abundant, I need to test this out more by using LBFH + DRR1 + A productivity sub to be 100% sure.
I wouldn’t have noticed it if i didn’t stop HeO for a while and started DRR1 which works extremely well with productivity scripting from other subs.
@SaintSovereign @Fire For a sub about mastery & dedication, I think HeO could use a more direct/in depth productivity scripting.
Or maybe i’m just uniquely not as responsive to the productivity scripting from HeO compared to/without the help of other subs. That’s also a possibility.
I should probably explain this further.
The productivity from HeO feels like it comes from dedication.
Inner conviction & devotion to the craft. Feels like it’s for a higher purpose.
That is super fulfilling.
But it doesn’t feel like a general productivity push like the one from Mogul & RM:UWX.
Pairing those 3 with DRR1/DRLD enhances these effects, but it also highlights how indirect HeO’s boost is.
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My productivity lately has been great thanks to DRR1. My work load has also decreased a bit.
I can afford to experiment with resolving recon.
Not from a completely new sub, that’s way too risky & random. But from the subs i had used in the past.
LBFH, WB, & DRR2 are the prime subjects.
the lethargy recon from LBFH is too small to experiment on.
I’d love to test DRR2, but DRR1 is already in the stack, so I can’t.
That leaves me with WB.
I’m not sure whether i really want the effects from WB or not nowadays, but it’s a good starting point to start chipping away at the recon.
I have used WB for 4-5 cycles total, and I know what to expect from the recon. So i can take the test in a more controlled manner.
I’ll start with +2s every listening day.
Starting from 3s.
I’ll listen to it once every week.
The lethargy recon only showed up after i passed 20s. So it will take more than 2 months to get there. Nothing to worry about for now.
The goal is to really slowly fix whatever is giving me the lethargy recon from WB.
If it’s too much, or if i need to focus again, I’ll stop.
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Wanted to ask a question - Since I have never run any Dragon Reborn titles. Neither Phoenix Reborn nor Limit Destroyer. Do you suggest me to run them? And what do I expect when I run them?
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My experience with DRLD & DRR1 are a bit similar.
They both act as a booster for the other subs in my stack.
DRLD is more focused on breaking limits.
DRR1 has a bigger scope, it’s more general.
You should consider adding them if you want to bring the other subs in your stack to another level.
Though i weirdly didn’t get any significant recon from DRR1.
Other people have reported higher recon while they are on it.
So the safer option is DRLD if you feel like you’re not ready for DRR.
I personally like DRR1 more since it fits my wants & needs better.
Another reason to add them is the random healing they do.
Use them for a few cycles and then suddenly you notice the old regrets, anger, anxiety etc that you’ve been holding at the back of your mind for decades are gone.
Things that were holding you back from taking action, getting out of your comfort zone etc are gone.
Everything is just easier when you use them.
The DR series is the ultimate grease for the gears that run your life.
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Iv heard someone say machine rest just made them sleepy and tired.
Just a lil tip
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Second play of +2s of WB once every week.
“I should stop. My view of life has changed drastically this past year.
WB’s goals don’t resonate at all with me anymore.”
Is what i have been thinking.
I will stick with WB to see whether it is truly what i feel or is it just recon.
It is true that i’m not as interested with WB’s external goals anymore. But i am still interested with its self improvement goals
- social mastery
- converting weakness to power
- emotional control
Etc
All of those are still interesting for me.
DRR1 already handles all of those, but i want to see if i can get over the recon from WB with this +2s, 1/week schedule.
After writing that, i realised that i just got a manifestation a few moments before.
Is it from WB? Possibly. This is not the first time using only 5 seconds gave me results.
I liked what happened. I will keep using WB and see whether i really want to keep using it or not.
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After I think about it again, the ones from LBFH have always been more to my taste.
If what I’m after is social related, WB is not the best fit for it, LBFH is better. But then again, I don’t particularly need what LBFH offers as much as i did back then.
So I decided to stop quantum-looping WB once every week and bring AC back to the stack.
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Today is weird.
I feel like I’m unloved and no one cares about me. I rarely feel like this.
Nothing is unusual today. The feeling just came out of nowhere.
This can’t be from subs, this is the last day of the washout, so it’s the least unlikely time for recon to hit.
DRR1 never gave me this recon. It might be from WB, I did feel something a bit similar like this when i was going through the broader “loss” recon from it, but I only ran it for 5s. What’s the chance that 5s can give me a recon a week after I listened to it?
My body is just having a reaction out of nowhere.
I’ll sleep and if the feeling continues, I’ll run an emergency loop of LBFH.
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On my first ever cycle of genesis, I had 9 days of washout recon. I had no recon whatsoever during my cycle, but once I started taking a washout, recon was intense for 9 days. After the 10th day it subsided so i restarted my cycle.
It’s possible, don’t second guess it if your intuition is saying it’s recon but your logic is saying you’ve been on a washout for too long for that to be feasible.
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That’s true, it does feel a bit deep like a recon.
A normal feeling fluctuation usually feels superficial compared to a recon.
My suspicion is still that it’s from the combination of 5s of WB + DRR1.
I guess using a sub where i feel a strong sense of “this is not the direction where I want to go” is not a good idea in the first place. My priorities in life have shifted and WB’s goals are more distant than earlier this year.
Since it may be a recon, i won’t use LBFH as an emergency sub, it will just add to the weight.
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Making sure the changes stick.
After I compare the results from 10 cycles of LBFH & 12 cycles of HeO to the other subs I’ve used before.
I am certain that the only way to use subs is to stick to it for as long as possible, at least 6 to 9 months.
Anything lower than that should only be for an emergency or a short term goal.
If you want the changes to reach deep & stick long after you stop using the subs, at least that long is mandatory.
After 6 to 9 months, the effects from the subs will be upgraded to long term changes within you.
It will be harder to fade away since it’s not just an effect from the subs, it’s already a part of you.
the changes that stay won’t be just something on the surface either, it will have a huge scope and become deeper.
When your intuition says “ok, you are done with the sub” and the results, improvements etc are clear & objectively present in your life, keep it still in the stack for at least 2 to 3 more cycles.
Better yet, only swap if your direction in life has significantly changed, or if the subs have solved so much of your original goals that keep using it past that point won’t be the most beneficial anymore, only after using them for 6 to 9 months.
LBFH is one of my favorite subs and it has changed my life dramatically, but It won’t make sense for me to keep using it since the changes it brought have stayed and become a normal part of my life. Even after half a year without it. The same with HeO.
Sure, i don’t get the immediate effects from them anymore like the overflowing love or the boost towards living up to the virtues, but the changes that stay are already more than enough for what I want and need in my life.
Focusing on other aspects I want to enhance in life will, and has given me better ROI overall.
Life is dynamic, you are dynamic, and so should your usage of subs.
Find the balance between too short & too long for your goals.
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