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That’s what i believe too. More so after i started running LBFH.

It’s just my experience with alpha/dominance subliminals from other creators that made me on the skeptical side with using subs in the same genre.

The kind of dominance that i’m after is like what you said, Healthy dominance that’s actually useful for my goals & the people around me. This wasn’t what i got with the alpha subliminals from other creators that i used in the past.

After 6 months of SC, and with what saint said in the stark thread, I’m now less skeptical about trying the alpha subs here. Everything i used here always feels like it’s from within and natural. - that was one of my biggest problems with the alpha subs i had used in the past, it felt like there was a layer on top of me that was “dominant”, but on the inside, i was not. - I can’t imagine it being the case with ZP. I can’t recall feeling like that with any of the subs here, even when i was riddled with recon from WB.

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I believe it’s all about the scripting.
Others mainly force their interpretation of dominance on you and force you into their imagination of alpha and dominance.
Here at SC with free will scripting, all the dominance and alpha traits are created by your subconsciousness, guided by your ideals and morals.
I remember that, while researching about emperor, I found a testimony of someone about his dominance on emperor. When one of his females colleagues fucked up seriously, he had to put her in her place. At first she was really down/afraid, but in the end, she was highly motivated and felt rather empowered than anything negative.
That’s the kind of dominance I want to experience in my life. Dominating others, but by dominating helping them to become the best version of themselves and being grateful for your confident and dominant behavior.

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You described what i experienced very accurately. That was exactly how i felt.

I didn’t expect that with emperor, i might consider adding it into my stack in the far future.

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In my experience with emperor, I’m more inclined to set up clear boundaries. My fiancee and I moved in with my family for some reasons and at first it was like before I moved out 13 years ago. I fell back in this childlike obedience. On empire, it became natural not to be obedient anymore, to take my stance in a calm manner.
As well as with my fiancee. Where in the past, I was inclined to cater to her needs and forget my own. Now it’s much more balanced and I can communicate my needs much more clearly even at the cost of her approval.

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That sounds like my experience with Mogul too

It’s not as strong, but the effect is there. I like the effect a lot.
I’m more inclined to consider using emperor too one day.

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I don’t have to feel 100% good to enjoy the moment. There can be pain, bad feelings etc happening at the same time. It doesn’t have to be pure.

I have been unknowingly forcing my body to feel a certain way based on my flawed ideals.

All i need to do is observe.

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I have confirmed that there’s no reason to not use HeO for 15m, at least for me. No recon & the effects hit better.

Was i being too cautious with increasing the listening duration before? My intuition had been nudging me to run it for 15m, but I didn’t listen.

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If you dial it up slowly over time, and notice that you’re not getting hit too hard with reconciliation and are getting good results - note, you have to be objective with this and be able to recognize it as it can be subtle at times - then sure, you can increase your exposure, nothing wrong with that.

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That’s reassuring.

I’ll monitor the recon too and make sure it’s not too much, if any. since like you said, it can be subtle and i did miss some of the cues in the past

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After a bit of introspection, This realization was certainly because of HeO. But i think it only appears when i run it for 15m, i had something similar happening too when i ran HeO for that long around a month ago.

learning about vipassana also plays a big part in it. HeO brings a deeper level of understanding based on that.

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As i look deeper into how i respond to emotions, 1 thing stands out:
I tend to latch onto a feeling in the hope of making it go away, which ironically only makes it stick even more.

Emotions come and go, if i want to be able to control my emotions better, i should let go of the desire to control.

Once i became aware of it, i notice that my mind is actually really good at letting go of emotions, all i have to do is not latch onto it, don’t try to “solve” it. just observe.

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On a book on orthodox Christian meditation I once read the advice to watch feelings like you would watch a sailing ship on a river.
You see it coming, see it right in front of you, big and bold, and you see it vanishing on the horizon.
As you said, just observe. No assessment, no judgement. See the color of the sails, the number of sailors on deck, how deep the keel is in the water. But don’t judge.
One of my mentors always says, that if you notice an unpleasant feeling, just think “Interesting” and observe. Helped quite a lot.

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That’s a really good analogy to explain the process. It’s really spot on with how it seems when i observe my feelings.

I’ll bookmark it :+1:

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Putting observation into practice is quite challenging.
Sometimes i don’t know the right approach or what’s considered an observation.
But i believe I can find the ways even if it’s done slowly and sluggishly. Keep an open mind and let go.


On another note, i may add Mogul to my stack. HeO alone makes me really productive, but I miss mogul’s unique focus on productivity.

HeO’s productivity is more spread out, with a lot more emphasis on learning for mastery.
Mogul’s is more straight forward. “just do it every day for hours on end” kind of productivity.

Well, that’s one reason, but truthfully speaking, reading others testimonies on LE & Exec makes me want to experience it too. Mogul gives me exactly that.

And to be even more honest, i want to try the NWE on Mogul too, lol.
Solo-ing HeO for 15m feels lighter than i expected. There’s no reason not to add another sub on top of it. Ultimately, I’ll listen to my intuition.

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HeO strengthens my intuition a lot.
It feels like i just know what to do and what not.

I need to train myself to listen to it more.
It’s so strong that there’s never a reason not to.

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i don’t know which sub(s) caused this,
i’m now not as picky anymore about music.
i can enjoy almost any music that i listen to, even the ones that i really didn’t like in the past.

whichever sub did this, i love it. my suspicion is on LBFH and DRLD.

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I decided to microloop WB again after i accidentally did it a week ago.

The recon was not fun, and is still not fun.

But what if it’s fixing something inside of me that I’ve been avoiding all this time? Saint did say that everything in the script is positive and such, so if i’m having such an adverse reaction to it, there might be something that i can get from letting myself reconcile with it.

Besides, i have other reasons to do it too:

  • the emotional control from WB is insane. I feel the most calm, i think, in my life when i ran it a few cycles ago. Even more than when i ran LBFH and HeO.
  • It has scripting that enhances mastery over language, which i think can substitute RM:UWX for some time.
  • More importantly, my intuition tells me to consider doing it, which i jumped on immediately.

2 cycles ago, after running HeO for a few days, my intuition told me to run DRLD even when i was 100% sure i was only gonna run LBFH + HeO for a year. And it was actually a really good decision.

To be totally honest, i’m still skeptical about this decision. What am i going to do with the kind of romance that WB offers anyway? All i do and care about is work. But even with that, i’m sure my intuition this time will lead me somewhere great.

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I’m also suspicious about this but it’s an experiment and I’m looking forward to hearing how it goes! HeO and WB have such different goals it’s difficult to reconcile them. Most people don’t report recon on WB so I’m really curious why it was that you got so much. Maybe the HeO / WB interplay?

Have you tried running stark? The language scripting on stark is off the charts and it applies to business as well as personal relationships. I tried a loop after the forum debate, but a lot of my friends IRL run stark and I see it all the time. Seems like it might be more aligned with your goals - and it’s a feel great sub too.

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the recon is, to put it simply, really up there. and I only listened to it for around 1 minute.

I’m even hesitating to write this right now. i may have to lower it back down to 30s or less. when i accidentally listened to WB a week ago for not even half a minute, it immediately got me into recon. though it only lasted for half a day which was great.

Yeah, I’m really skeptical about this too. I read Saint’s post that said both of them are like 2 completely different paths. It’s really interesting to see how it will go.

1 theory that I came up with is, I just don’t find value in WB’s goals in my life except for the ones I listed above even when the results are in front of my eyes.

At first, I thought it was just not who I wanted to be or what I wanted to spend my time on. but now that I think about it, it could actually be a recon and I wasn’t aware that it was one. I don’t know and I want to find out.

I was considering it, but i forgot why i didn’t choose it. As you said, it fits my goals best at that time. Well, that’s until HeO came around.

For now, my goals are everything in HeO except for sparring. almost no more, no less. the goals in HeO are so close to who i am and what I want to become that it feels as if I was asking saint & fire directly to make a sub specifically for me.

So every sub other than HeO is just something that’s nice to have. that’s why i haven’t gotten RM:UWX yet even though i have been saying that i want to use it for months now. I’ll only use HeO unless my intuition says otherwise. or if the hype for NFTW gets into me, which will most likely be the case, lol.

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First run of mogul for 15m, stacked with 30s of HeO.

It feels different from the previous version of mogul. I can’t really put it into words, more broad? it has a distinct feeling.

There was little to no recon with the old version, I want to test if that’s still the case with gen:mogul.

Well, that was the plan. I realized halfway through that I won’t be able to tell which recon is from mogul and which is from WB anyway.


I will stack HeO + Mogul + WB.
HeO & Mogul(the previous version, at least) give me almost no recon, so they are the best choice to stack with WB.

What i’m afraid of is how much HeO & Mogul make me productive separately on their own. I hope it’s not too much like when i stacked HeO with DRLD.

Taking DRLD off the stack was the right choice. even though i’m not as productive, i feel more balanced. I don’t feel super tired and people don’t say that i look & sound tired anymore. Well, now that mogul is in the stack, let’s see how it goes.

I will still use 17 days instead of 21. Shaving off the last 2 listening days works well for me.


Update 1:

scrap that. i can feel the recon now, it’s definitely not from WB or HeO. i feel unsettled, almost like when i first started DRLD. it’s not that bad though, i don’t feel like I’m being hindered at all.


Update 2:

This feels like an overload on top of recon. I haven’t felt like this ever since i started aggressively doing microloop when i first used HeO.
the recon itself feels tame. if i compare it with the peak of recon from WB, it’s around 10% of it.

I will keep updating this journal a lot to keep a log of the recon and stuff.


Update 3:

I feel happy? it doesn’t feel like something superficial, it feels like it’s coming from inside of me.
It has a hint of abundance, a tiny feeling of freedom, and a funny feeling of fullness in my belly (the feeling is different from being full of food, all i can think about to describe it is “abundance”).
That’s the best i can put the feeling into words.

I originally thought that the feeling was from LBFH, but now that i think about it, maybe it was from the old Mogul instead all along.

I ran the old Mogul for 3-4 cycles, the feeling I’m experiencing now is really similar to it plus a feeling of relief and joy. it feels broader too, i really can’t put this into words. some times i feel like it’s expanding? I’m not sure. really unique.

It’s a bit more intense than the old Mogul.


Update 4:
The recon from Mogul is not here anymore. well, it went away pretty quickly. i will update this journal again if it comes back.

on another note, recon from WB sometimes flares up. it manifests itself as tenseness in my muscles, sudden twitches, and general awkwardness, on top of weird feelings. the most dominant feeling is a deep feeling of loss, followed by fear & anxiety. EDIT: the feelings are both inward and outward. i feel both losing a part of myself and losing others.

it’s not as bad as when i first used WB a few cycles ago. if i compare it to the peak of recon from WB, it’s around 20% now. when i listened to WB 2 days ago, it was around 30%.

why am i getting so much recon with WB even on microloop? i don’t have problems being with women. a lot of my close friends are women. is it the archetype? It’s the only probable cause i can think of. I resonate a ton with HeO, so maybe WB is too far away from it. that’s my theory, but is it really that far apart to the point where the recon is that strong?

I’m not just following my intuition to play WB anymore, i want to find out why it gives me recon. maybe I’ll uncover something valuable that I’m not aware of.

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