Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

Oh I see! That’s cool.
After I finish DRR I want to refresh Khan Black at some point.
Got to stage 3 but it was too intense and need to take another round of KB starting from Stage 1.

But that will be 4-6 months from now

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Wait, no.
I can just make a name embedded major for ICB with NWE.
I get the best of both worlds. The feel good from ICB and the small boost of money from NWE.

I could make a custom instead, but I want the “fun sub” to be as light as possible.

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Bringing this here so it doesn’t derail saint’s journal.

I did with LBFH.
Wrote about it somewhere here or in the product’s thread.

Definitely. Huge results enhancer IMHO. The recon helps you get the result. You learn from the recon much faster.

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Like my story of a date gone bad (she had BPD)

but then that leading me to researching and understanding a life long habit of dating women with BPD

And now having a clear list of how to notice and avoid that

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Yeah, Let’s continue here, lol.
I realized it was going to be a huge text wall on saint’s journal halfway through.
Edit - Nevermind, I thought I was gonna write a whole ass paragraph after that, but it ended up being only 2 lines, lol.

That’s learning from recon though, I’m interested in the boost it can potentially give me for subs like Mogul, HeO, LE, DRR1. Ones that I get 0 recon from.

That’s a whole roller coaster, rofl.
I wonder what a romance sub will change in my preference/who I attract too.

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I’ve always attracted BPD women even pre subs

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Maybe this would help:

https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Personalities-Profiler-Identify-Yourself/dp/1635653363

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I attracted quite a diverse types of women myself.

Though I tend to gravitate towards maturity, rationality and just having their shits together, at least internally. As long as their foundations are solid, any wind like emotional fluctuations, clashing opinions etc are compromisable.

I haven’t been committed in a relationship for a while though.
So idk if that gonna hold up when i actually intend on entering one, lol.
My goals take priority over everything else right now and i’m plenty fulfilled with it.

Holy shit LE rules.

The raw productivity boost is something else.
It feels more complete than just HeO + DRR1.

Do i feel it’s necessary? Not really, but it’s nice to have so I don’t have to exert the extra effort to keep it up.

I can’t wait for the update.
Well i’m stuck with LE and can’t switch it for other subs until next year. So I’m not in a rush.


It’s getting closer.
I ended up spending 2 hours of free time total yesterday and sacrificed my meditation time for it.
But it’s progress nonetheless.

Does daily struggle to grow also count as recon?

I was doing some mindless work while thinking about how people seem to agree that recon will always be there, it’s a part of growth.

But recon does stop. Sometimes it doesn’t even show up to begin with.
Recon for me is an uncontrollable inner “turmoil” (I can’t find the right word to describe everything a recon is). Both deep or shallow. The feeling is specific to subs.

It’s interesting to see how there could be another interpretation of recon.
In it, recon is everything that blocks your way towards your goals.
I think I’m starting to understand what some describe as recon.

If I go with that definition, HeO is one hell of a recon filled sub.
I don’t feel what I’d describe as “recon”, I think overcoming things to achieve greater results is just a part of life. but it is full of what some would describe as such.

Fascinating.
I’ll stick with my definition of recon. But it’s great to see other’s perspectives.


Regardless of the definition of recon,
Does my daily struggle to grow also count as something that the anti-recon scripting handles?
If it is, then the anti-recon scripting might be more potent than I originally expected.

That would be amazing.
Instead of naming it “anti-recon”, it should be something like “adaptability enhancer”.

But that’s just a theory.
I’ll just wait until the subs I’m using get the update too and see the difference myself.

So did you consider HeO: Anti-recon module?

Not at all currently.

Saint said the update for HeO will come near the release of the new HERO title, which will come in this year.

I need to take a 1 month break from HeO too.
So I’m not in a rush to get the anti-recon.

Oh, you reached 1111 posts in your journal.

Still, I’d be very curious if the HeO veteran would run this.

If I see this correctly, there are 4 options

  1. Keep running regular HeO
  2. Switching to new HeO once it’s released
  3. Switching to HeO Multistage once it’s released
  4. Testing OG HeO: Anti-Recon

I don’t want to push you (I feel like I need to say this, although a part of me feels like pushing you), but I’m really curious about the effect this could have.
This is real scientific curiosity.
You’re experiencing no more recon on HeO, IIRC.
You’re getting great results from HeO.

So what would happen if you add anti recon tech? Is SubZero right and you’ll get not only less recon bet even better and faster results?

Sorry, I feel like I shouldn’t want to push you, but excitement and curiosity is just to strong :sweat_smile::joy:

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This journal used to have 1.2k+, rofl.
I’m currently cleaning the low quality entries.
It’s going super slowly though since we’re limited to only 10 deletes a day.

I’m banking more on this than HeO’s update coming soon.
The new HERO title is pretty much confirmed to come soon.
But HeO coming alongside it has only been mentioned once by saint.

No recon at all.
It’s as smooth as Mogul & DRR1 but not invisible like them.

The results are insane.
HeO is the best sub in the store, bar none.

I’m REALLY hoping he’s right.
His arguments expanded my scope of what might be possible from the new scripting.

It really screams “limit destroyer” / “adaptability enhancer”.
That can substantially increase the speed of the changes.

I’m fine if it ended up not being like that though.
DRR1 + HeO is already a killer combo.
DRR1 is a potent holistic limit destroyer & adaptability enhancer on its own.

No worries, lol.
I’m as excited as you are.

I’m in the middle of a washout and I can tell for certain that the subtle overload is disappearing.
13 on 4 off is not sustainable. Either 11 on 4 off or 13 on 5 off.
If i had used 13 on 4 off one after another, I’d get an overload for sure.

That’s a good find. My intuition was right all along.

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I’m gonna start the break for HeO early too.
I’m not taking any chances with 0.5 month of DRR2 next month.

1.5 months break from HeO.
3.5 months break from DRR1
I plan to use DRR4 later for 1.5 months. Since it has a part of DRR1 in it, the break can be counted as only 2-3 months.

It’s time for solo LE for the remainder of this month.
It’s overkill, but i want to take out as many variables that could increase the burden on top of DRR2’s recon as possible.

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Writing this got me thinking.

One of the biggest reasons I can stick to subs for a long time is simply because I’ve already achieved most of what I wanted in life. It also helps that I didn’t keep moving the goalpost after that.
I have the kinds of struggles that I want to deal with, enjoyments that I care about, people that I want in life etc.

I already have most of what I want.
Subs are just a lubricant/grease to help me enjoy life even more with its ups and downs.
That’s why I rarely got a dire need towards using other subs.

Most of what subs can potentially give me, I either already have or I can just do it by myself.
Here is where HeO comes in. It is the only sub that I can’t just do on my own. It showed me another layer of fulfilment that I can’t yet achieve by myself.

That’s why sticking with HeO is the easiest choice I have. DRR1 is also an easy pick since it is a holistic booster that enhances the results of other subs like no other. My plan with other subs in the store is to increase what’s already above my goals, it’s to attain excess on top of excess. It’s different with HeO, I can’t achieve that level without the sub yet.

LBFH used to be like HeO too, but I’ve finally reached the level I like without having to use the sub anymore after around a year of use total.

Maybe one of the biggest keys to stick with a sub is to be content with what you have in the first place.
Prioritize 1 goal at a time. Slowly bring it up until you get it to a satisfactory level. Then choose another goal next.

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I’m in the same situation, I already achieved virtually everything I wanted before I found SC. But at my age (52) and having done that it’s easy to become content and start to slow down and cruise towards retirement. I’ve certainly thought about it, it has a certain attraction, but that way lies stagnation and gradual decay. That desire for personal growth and self exploration that was a key driver in my earlier years in still there. Back then it was mostly through traveling and living in different countries and exploring new cultures, and also using that to drive my career forward. These last few years I’ve basically settled down so these subs are a great way for me to maintain a level of transformation and growth.

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I can’t imagine taking retirement ever.

Striving to be better is the joy of my life.
I have the kinds of struggles that i want to go through. Struggles towards what I care about, for those i care about.

The more i achieve, the more i realize the struggles don’t go away, they become different. I’d never want to go back to the struggles i had back then, endlessly forced to do things i don’t care about. The kinds of endless striving i have now in contrast is way better. These, with their ups & downs, are what i want.

I don’t know what will happen a few decades from now though. Maybe there’ll come a time when i’d want to stop & settle down.
Honestly, that thought scares me a bit, that’s one of the reasons i live as healthily as possible. So i can be at/near my peak as long as i can.

As they say, you retire you expire.

I’ve seen insane decay from people who chose to retire.
It comes faster than people expect.

I think the perfect retirement for me is one where i don’t go on a full rest all day, but a semi-retirement where i still manage some things but with reduced capacity.

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