Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

[Viktor]

@Jouissance

When the copy is referring to BL being good for “Short Term Goals” that’s still very much referring to the technology (ultima) as much as or more than the script (beyond limitless).

That could be the case. I’m guessing out of the lack of information that the scripting is still targetted towards short term enhancements. I wonder what they will spin BL & LE as when they update them.

We have microloops now for short term goals anyway. So I kinda don’t see the point of them if it’s solely for cognitive enhancement.

@Jouissance

But with that being said, of course if you want the title that gives you extreme long-term results and doesn’t worry about how fast you get there, QL is the way to go.

I would love to use QL instead of Limitless, but I plan to run the custom alongside DRR1.
2 multistagers in a stack sounds a bit risky.
Maybe I’ll add it as the 4th stage after i’m done with DRR.
(stage 1: LE, 2: Limitless + UA, 3: RoM + UA, 4: QL + UA)

@Jouissance

You’re gonna love LE, whether you keep it as a sub for a long time or you use it as stage 1.

Yep, I’m sure of it. Every single productivity & creativity sub i’ve ever used from SC, when combined with either DRLD or DRR1, always work really well.

LE is just a more distilled & focused version of them. no extra stuff.
Just productivity, cognitive enhancement & meditation boost. All that i need to pair with DRR1.

@Jouissance

Personally, I wouldn’t sleep on how effective of a results enhancer LE can be, because the scripting isn’t just about cognition, it’s also about performance, meaning it helps you perform at your best every day.

And that means less recon and more action

This is what i’m after with LE. simple & straightforward for what truly matters to me.
I wish they upgrade LE to be more compatible with long term goals too. I might ditch my plan to make a custom altogether if they do that in less than a few months from now, rofl.

[Viktor]

LE 15m

I don’t feel anything.
This is so smooth. I would say it’s even smoother than DRR1.

It didn’t feel like I listened to a sub.
Even Mogul and DRR1 gave me a very slight, small shift in feeling.
LE felt like nothing.

Well, at least now I know I can run LE for 15m very easily.
I kind of expected that since I’ve run various subs that boost productivity and creativity for more than a year. But I didn’t expect it to be this smooth.

[Viktor]

A bit of a late testimony, but i decided that it’s fine to post this.

I actually used mogul for 1 loop earlier this month. I needed to get more stuff for efficiency and i wanted to fund it faster. Those were a bit expensive so i originally planned to use mogul for 1-2 months.

Then i listened to mogul once, somehow i got super lucky the next day and managed to gather all the funds needed in only a few days.

I still can’t wrap my head around how absurd the manifestation worked.

The wealth manifestation is no joke, rofl.
1 loop was enough as long as there are pathways for manifestations.

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I might delete this later, i always hold back on writing anything about mogul’s results. But this is just too good to not share.

[Parsifal]

@Viktor

Then i listened to mogul once, somehow i got super lucky the next day and managed to gather all the funds needed in only a few days.

I still can’t wrap my head around how absurd the manifestation worked.

The wealth manifestation is no joke, rofl.
1 loop was enough as long as there are pathways for manifestations.

I don’t say I envy you.
But I still kinda do
You’re getting all these crazy results. Even crazy financial results from UWX, now with one run of GM again.
Little me running financial subs for over a year now, and I only got triple of what I invested in subs…

But I was at a completely different starting point. There’s a lot of internal stuff to clear through before money can flow freely.

Or maybe this is a believe I need to clear first…

[Viktor]

@Parsifal

You’re getting all these crazy results. Even crazy financial results from UWX, now with one run of GM again.

There must be a bit of wealth scripting too from the other subs in my stack. But the sheer absurdity of the manifestation couldn’t be from anything else other than Mogul.

And just like how Mogul always does, the manifestation didn’t come completely randomly. It was absurd, but it was from pathways that were already laid out in my life. I just did my best to seize them.

This is always the case with Mogul, the more you open channels for wealth to flow into your life, the more effective it is.

@Parsifal

But I was at a completely different starting point. There’s a lot of internal stuff to clear through before money can flow freely.

Yeah, admittedly, I came to Mogul without many internal blockages about wealth towards my goals to begin with. So it’s understandable that I have it easier with wealth scripting.
The internal stuff will clear out over time with enough experience & sub usage. Don’t worry about it.

I find DRR to be the best sub for cleansing blockages.
Big and small, even the ones you’re not aware of.
You should try it when a slot opens up in your stack.

Maybe Mogul worked exceptionally fast this time because there were blockages that got melted down by DRR1 behind the scenes. It kinda makes sense since this is the first time I’ve ever had significant gains this quickly.

[Viktor]

I decided to cycle through all the stages of DRR.
I’m now more free and I can spare time to deal with the potential recon.

I’ll start DRR2 in the middle of this month together with LE.
Last time I jumped too quickly to 15m, and I didn’t really prefer the changes DRR2 brought over the ones DRR1 offers. But after I read my journal again, I realized that that might be because I went through DRR2 too quickly.

@Viktor

the recon is something else, i’ve written them in my journal but long story short, every single thing that makes me, well, “me” is being challenged. everything is being hit but the 3 big recon I’m feeling are:

• less confidence in a lot of things
• feeling unsettled since things are changing way too much too quickly
• physically can’t focus as well as before I started DRLD

interestingly enough, I also feel an increase in all of those in another way, I feel less confidence but more confidence at the same time, I feel unsettled but certain, physically can’t focus but I feel significantly less resistance towards my productivity. these are just the 3, there are more that I’ve written in my journal.

This is from a year ago, the first cycle of DRLD. Back when I haven’t tried microlooping.
I can see some similarities with how it was too much, too quickly.
Maybe that was why I didn’t really like DRR2.

I’ll use +1m30s every listening day, starting from 0.
Not too quick, not too slow.

[Viktor]

The thing that I started because of the inspiration from running RM:V is finally in full operation.
I can’t believe saying “fuck it, imma do it” actually worked.

How long ago did I start working on it? 3 - 4 months ago?
I never would have expected everything to be this quick.
Thanks Mogul, rofl.

I’m so excited for what’s to come.
Idk if this will end up well or not, only time can tell. Whatever happens, at least I can say “yes, I did it”, lol.

[Viktor]

@Viktor

In both cases, i just wanted some of the effects.
Emotional control, social skills & physical shifting from WB.
Storytelling, creativity, productivity & wealth from RM:UWX.
I don’t want to be in too many romantic situations or to get too deep into writing & becoming a writer. Yet those are what they both manifested.

The problem is about the great results that are way outside of what i want to focus on in life.

The manifestations were so strong that I didn’t need to really go out of my way to get them. The opportunities somehow found their ways to present themselves through various channels.

After i wrote this, i have been wondering why this is the case.

I think there’s a part of me that wants these results, these are great.
But i have a bigger want, a higher purpose than them.
That’s why i wrote “I don’t want to be in too many romantic situations…”.

It’s not that I don’t want them. They got manifested because there’s a part of me that wants them. But the intensity & the frequency are just too much that they derail me from my main goals.

Having to refuse too many big opportunities so that i can focus on what i truly want was also taking a toll on me over time. That’s why RM:UWX was a bit exhausting to use. These were opportunities from subs. Not only they were big, they were also well suited for me.

All of these made me want to stick with simpler, more straightforward subs for my needs.
The less scattered they are to the stuff that are not my main goals, the better.

[Viktor]

@Viktor

@Ravenscout

So in other words I could keep NWE and still add new Limitless? My custom would be very dense if I did that, but I plan on running Limitless either way regardless. Wouldn’t it end up being smoother if I added it in the custom instead of adding it as a second title in my stack?

I can’t say anything for sure since I haven’t tried it myself.
Honestly, i want to try 3 cores + 1 NSE too just to see what would happen. The opinions here in the forum are still mixed up & unclear about the combination.

At this point, it’s better to submit a ticket to the support for a more accurate answer.

Fuck it, i’m gonna test it myself.

I want a more straightforward custom and i know i only need a simple one for my goals, but i’m also curious as heck about whether it’s too much or not.

I’m gonna add NR back into into the custom i planned for 3 months from now. I’ll use it for at least 2 months. If it ends up being too dense, i’ll just remake it with only ME + Limitless. It will only cost $100 + 2 months anyway. That’s barely nothing.

[Viktor]

My breath is naturally getting deeper and deeper.
Much less tension and blockages.
DRR1 is slowly cleansing the fuck ups in the background.
The more i use DRR1, the more everything just gets better out of nowhere.

[Viktor]

I have used LE for 3 loops total.

Honestly, I thought there would be a bit more immediate results since the sub sounds like it’s designed for that.

But nothing different so far.
I guess the strength is just the same as Mogul or RM:UWX in the short term.

That’s why i don’t feel any result from LE, not because there isn’t any, but it’s just too similar in strength & characteristic to the subs i used before.

Well, i hope LE will give me more after a month.
I’m forgoing Mogul’s boost on wealth after all.
It should better be worth the extra focus on productivity & cognitive enhancement.

Let’s see.

[Viktor]

@SaintSovereign

Titles with executive function:

Every Emperor title.
Ascension.
Mogul.
Ascended Mogul.
Limitless
Quantum Limitless
Limitless Executive
THE Executive.

Wait fuck, Limitless has the executive function?
Should I have gotten Limitless instead of LE? My goal is long term.
I’m in no rush to get more productivity nor creativity especially in the next few months.

I might have just fumbled on a purchase.
If the productivity boost in Limitless is on the same strength as Mogul, then LE is the wrong choice.
Since Mogul + DRR alone is enough to develop my productivity.

Well, that’s a bummer, but let’s see what LE can give me. I’ll swap it for a custom in 3 months anyway.

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I wonder if the ME will enter this list too. It’s now categorized as a Limitless product after all.

[Viktor]

I’m getting a reaction

I feel more easily irritable & jealous lately.
This is really exciting because this could be from LE.
Maybe this is what recon from LE feels like.
Finally i can feel something from the sub.

This could be from DRR1 though.
In which case; what the fuck? I have been using it for more than 3 months and this is the first time i get hit by a recon like this. The feeling is different from anything DRR1 has ever given to me, so i’m a bit skeptical that it is from DRR1.

The recon is not overpowering.
I’m more excited than annoyed by it, LE is finally giving me a reaction.

[Parsifal]

This are the answers I got on Limitless VS LE

@Niles

Personally, I’d still roll with Limitless Exeuctive and replace Limitless. Limitless while it has it’s benefits, main objectives are cognitive enhancement, learning, and overall learning.

Limitless Executive is more geared towards productivity and the cognitive aspects seem to effect more executive functioning, clear thinking, clear speaking etc.

@Jouissance

completely remove limitless and replace with LE.

Keep LE and Executive loop times LOW - they can cause some serious recon.

Make sure you have NR in your stack as per journals of myself, azriel, and niles, all of which show the incredible boost caused by a pure wealth title in the stack.

Both of them experimented a lot on productivity. So I trust their assessment.

[Viktor]

@Parsifal

Both of them experimented a lot on productivity. So I trust their assessment.

I see, I didn’t mess up then, rofl.

[Viktor]

I think i’ve been consistently getting recon in the washout periods.
This washout I’m doing now is 5 days long since I did 13 days.
I guess maybe this is from DRR1? this is the only sub that might cause this.

[Jouissance]

@Parsifal just to be fully transparent, you got that advice from Niles and I because you were asking entering into the sales industry.

But it’s not an overall assertion that LE is a generally better sub.

@Viktor I didn’t say anything because I know you’re a beast at processing subs, but I gasp at the thought of a 15 min loop.

LE was the sub thatenabled me to really feel the difference between normal and microloopw.

If I listened to a 3 ,in loop the night beforehand I didn’t get any productivity gains. It was usually a slight dip in productivity.

But 1 min the night before or 30s the day of and my productivity and joy working and results skyrocketed.

I saved 3-7 min loops for the weekend or Friday night when I could process it

[Jouissance]

Seems like a good thing for you - just saying not to underestimat recon potential

[Viktor]

@Jouissance

I didn’t say anything because I know you’re a beast at processing subs, but I gasp at the thought of a 15 min loop.

I played LE for 30s, 15m, 15m. 3 listening days total so far.
So I’ve tried both microloop & full loop.

Back then I didn’t feel anything, no recon nor anything different.
But I’m just starting to feel the recon after 4-5 days of the last exposure to LE.

I wonder if it’s from DRR1 or LE.
DRR1 is the only sub that gives me recon in the washout period, but the recon now feels different that I have a suspicion that it’s from LE.

My productivity doesn’t suffer at the slightest though, as long as it’s not a lethargy recon, I don’t mind it.

I’ll try to use lower loops too like you said.
1m, 3m, 5m, 7m. I’ll look at the difference with how I react to them later.

@Jouissance

Seems like a good thing for you - just saying not to underestimat recon potential

Hopefully it won’t be that bad. I’ll take it slowly for now, just in case.

[Jouissance]

It could have been an initial stonewalling followed by a processing of the input.

For LE microloops seem to work best after some time of normal exposure. I didn’t try microloops my first loop. I tried them after having been listening for 3-7 minutes for a while.