I thought the same as you about Phoenix when I first read the description. Also, the “This is not for the faint hearted” comment put me off. However, for some reason a few days ago I went to the forum thread and saw that everyone is having incredible results fast and apparently quite easily. I was also putting off healing subs, but the truth is that emotional blockages can affect us in all areas of life and development. While listening to LBfH (also a big fan) I got clarity and certainty that I would be OK with Phoenix, so I have added it to my stack now.
I encourage you to have a look at the thread. People there have mentioned emotional regulation.
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I didn’t think about reading the testimonials, rofl.
If people here are saying phoenix is easy, It’s more reassuring. NSE should have made it smoother.
i’m gonna consider using it too.
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Cycle 10 day 7
LBFH 3m + Mogul 6m30s + AC 1m40s
That was dense but not as dense as when i played LBFH 15m + Mogul 15m + AC 7m.
I believe 5m for Mogul is better than 7m30s with this schedule.
the next 3 days will be rest days, then i will listen to HeO + Mogul on day 11
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I have done the 17 listening days + 4 rest day schedule for 3 cycles.
It’s doable, but you have to take the first day of the schedule very lightly. microloop everything for 30s max. listen to the sub on the 17th day right after you wake up and on the 1st day right before you sleep to give as long of a break in between the cycles as possible.
This workaround is not worth it. rest for 5 days.
But I’m not dropping the idea of 21-day schedule yet.
It doesn’t matter what schedule i use, i always get small overload & hidden recon symptoms starting from day 13 - 15. they are small but noticeable with journaling and introspection.
So if i take a mini washout for 3 days in the middle of the schedule, this may solve the problem.
I will stick with the 7 on > 3 off > 7 on > 4 off schedule for a few cycles and compare it with the normal 5 rest days.
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I was doing mindless work with youtube playing in the background and i found this.
the power of suggestion.
1 simple line is enough to change someone’s entire day.
Imagine what subs can do.
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LBFH
The effect that removes negative self talk stayed with me when i didn’t have LBFH in the stack.
But with it in the stack again, the effect is more pronounced.
LBFH reduces it, even when some slip through, it doesn’t spiral into a chain of negative self talk.
It cuts the connection at the start automatically.
I still can feel bad, i just don’t verbally beat myself over it.
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The effect of switching WB to LBFH is really apparent.
Less emotional control, less sex, less romance.
But more social, more love, and a LOT of productivity.
The productivity is not as high as when i used DRLD, but it’s more balanced now.
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Productivity high.
Using HeO + Mogul on top of dropping WB gives me so much productivity back.
I will trade the effects from WB anyday for this much consistent productivity & feeling of fulfilment.
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Cycle 10 day 10
Update on the 7 on > 3 off > 7 on > 4 off schedule.
I’m on the 3rd day of the 3 days off now.
It feels lighter and the effects are still strong.
I think i’m onto something here.
What if i do 9 on > 4 off > 9 on > 4 off instead.
It’s 26 days in total, and i feel i can take just a bit more than 7.
I will start this schedule right away.
So tomorrow will still be a rest day.
Update 1:
The schedule now:
1 HeO + Mogul + AC
2
3 LBFH + Mogul
4
5 HeO + Mogul
6
7 HeO + Mogul + AC
8
9 LBFH + Mogul
10
11
12
13
Repeat
I will only listen to LBFH once every 6-7 days because the effects are strong enough to stay for that long.
Mogul will be prioritized because i will switch it in a few cycles.
HeO will stay in my stack for I don’t know how long and it won’t be leaving any time soon, so I don’t need to prioritize it.
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my dreams are really strong after i started using subs.
I can’t believe my mind can come up with these crazy stories & visuals.
If only i could tap into this ability and use it to my advantage.
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Cycle 10 day 12
HeO 4m20s + Mogul 5m
it’s not heavy with no noticeable recon.
well, that’s expected with the 9 on 4 off schedule.
I’m focused on work, maybe a bit too much.
i think with WB’s influence mostly gone, the productivity scripting from HeO & Mogul is starting to show itself more. it’s still not as insane as when i had DRLD in the stack, but it’s getting closer there.
I wanted to try LE but HeO + Mogul is already this strong.
If i switch Mogul for LE or EB, I’ll kiss goodbye to anything that’s not about work.
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productivity is high.
and nothing else, just the way i want it.
- stable productivity.
- enough stress to make life spicy but not too much that it slows me down.
- flowing creativity from HeO & Mogul.
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i just read the WB + PS clashing and i realized maybe WB & HeO was clashing too when it comes to women & sex, but i didn’t care enough to pay attention to the clash because i treated those effects as extras and focused more on the emotional control scripting.
WB & HeO makes more sense though compared to WB & PS. I can’t understand how that combination can work, but I’m sure someone will figure out how to combine them for their goals.
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Cycle 10 day 14
Mogul ?s + ?s + 3m & LBFH 4m
VLC lagged & destroyed the audio when i played the subs. it dragged the audio out and flickered.
So i restarted the stack, failed, and ended up switching to Windows Media Player.
Was it okay that i listened back from the beginning 3 times or should have i guessed where it was cut off and continued from there instead? does it matter?
@AnswerGroup
Pardon the tag, getting cut off without knowing where the sub stopped, in one way or another, has happened a few times and I’m sure it will happen again eventually. So i want to know what’s the best thing to do if something similar happens again.
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Cycle 10 day 15
Rest
Productivity high.
Work life balance is good with this stack. HeO + Mogul increase my productive and LBFH’s manifestations give me small rests throughout the day.
This stack is great.
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Cycle 10 day 16
Mogul 5m + HeO 4m30s
Productivity high.
A holiday is not an excuse.
if i was going to celebrate something, it had to be about what i achieved.
not a participation award for staying alive.
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That’s discussed in pretty good depth in this video. Forget about the ADHD part - he essentially just explains a really interesting meditation technique that happens to be something ADHD people are actually better at than neurotypical people. His argument is that capitalism controls meditation narratives now with apps like Calm and Headspace dominating the industry, so they’re focused on bringing the easiest most accessible types of meditation that the majority of (neurotypical) people can understand.
But in fact, “advanced” meditation is worlds different. And apparently if you have ADHD you’re better at it because it’s all about exploration of self.
I did this meditation without the OM chanting, just listening to buddhist chanting/music from a YT video, and went into my inner world to see the “source” of it all and it was outstanding, I was surfing my inner world and learning so much.
The buddhist chanting music wasn’t really my choice, was with my mother-in-law who was playing it, so i figured i might as well try a different type of meditation than focus-meditation, which is better w/o distraction.
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this is a direct result that’s mentioned on the sales page of Mogul. But HEO and LBFH certainly aren’t hurting these results either.
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Sorry… I’m catching up on your journal.
Honestly I think you’d be fine with Phoenix. You’re fine with DR:LD and I think Phoenix isn’t NEARLY as hard as that one. But I also wanted to comment on some subs that I think would work well for you.
Primal, you should read the testimonials, EVERYONE is saying how calm, stoic, grounded they feel on it. A very high level of emotional control and zen-like certainty in self + relaxation, overall, even when taking massive action.
The original Godlike Masculinity might be right up your alley…
- Be completely unperturbed by any situation, person or event – you are in control.
- Learn to command others with dignity and honor.
- Discipline yourself – discipline your body, your mind and your soul.
- Embrace ambition and use it to achieve heights you never even thought were possible.
- Develop that “edge” that others can’t seem to get enough of.
Sanguine: Elixir is the smoothest healing experience that i’ve ever had (but haven’t run Phoenix tbh) and it may be exactly what you’re looking for. I like it way more than Sanguine. It does everything. And it’s a productivity booster on top of everything else, in a smooth way, nothing frenetic from pushing yourself too hard. It’s just easy to do what needs to be done, then you go back to being happy and chill.
Or if you’re up for it, Emperor Black is BIG on understanding yourself and your shadow to pursue your goals. Doesn’t have to be wealth. It’s about getting an intense understanding and mastery of yourself to push yourself with. This is a good one to understand by reading about on the forum rather than the sales age. It’s nuanced.
Out of all of them though, I think you should try the original GLM the most, though. Or if you’d like you can even go straight to GLM:Commander, it’s very similar to WB in some ways - they were released at the same time and are kind of the sex/status equivalent of each other. The original GLM is focused on internal development.
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i think i’d be fine too with running phoenix, it’s one of the top subs that i want to try.
i didn’t read the description for primal because I’m not interested in trying romance subs again.
but i just read it since you mentioned it, i think i might like it. it’s still down in the list of subs that i want to prioritize though.
i had considered this sub, but I’m not interested in being more masculine so i didn’t think much about using it.
yes, sanguine & SE are on top of the list of the subs that i want to try. They sound like what I’m looking for.
I’m really interested in trying EB, but one of the reasons i like LBFH is the manifestations pull me out of the monk mode that I’m already in. I’m afraid EB is just gonna amplify the monk mode even more than necessary. your recommendation to try LE may work better for me.
I just read the description for GLM again, when i don’t pay attention to the word “masculinity”, the sub does sound like what i want. Well, another sub to the queue.
I have so many subs that i want to try. RM:UWX is next for sure,
but then there are other subs lined up now. QL, Phoenix, GLM, SE, Sanguine, LE.
a custom is inevitable a year from now 
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