The one where BLACKICE'S "dad bod" goes away [EmpFit]

I think I made a mistake on Saturday, and I’ve been trying to fix it ever since.

Saturday was the day I’ve felt the most energy in YEARS. I was literally running up hills, and my wife couldn’t keep up. She was ready to go home and rest, and I was ready to do the whole thing all over again. I also had a great mood and very clear thinking.

As far as I can tell (I have a KetoMojo tester now to actually track that, moving forward) I was in the ketogenic sweet spot, and was happily burning fat for energy. Then I broke it by eating lunch at 2pm and it went away… :astonished:

I did a 23h fast/OMAD yesterday and felt ok, but woke up with a headache this morning… may have been weather-related as I’m annoyingly sensitive to pressure changes, but with all the experimenting I’m doing, who knows.

@DarkPhilosopher I know you’ve done extended fasts before, does my theory re: ketosis on Saturday sound plausible?

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Absolutely. I’ve often had those times when my brain started working several times faster, making me feel like the whole world was slow and I was full of energy. I got a lot done during those times, including rapidly annoying people operating at normal speed. :slight_smile:

I do notice that as full of energy as I feel, even though I feel I could lift a car above my head, this is inadvisable. The brain operates faster, but the muscles still won’t have the power to hold that car there for very long. Low intensity stuff can be maintained for a long time though.

I expect a person who has become fully keto-adapted and can switch from glucosis to ketosis and back without noticing it would be operating slightly faster as well, but probably would no longer notice it. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten there completely. It’s why I want to convince myself to go OMAD+ADF so badly.

As far as the headache goes, it would be hard to pin it down. I have had them at times when trying something new, while the body is still figuring out what it is that I’m doing. Am I going to be consistent or is this a one-off? The headache feels similar to the dehydration one to me.

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Yep I definitely annoyed my wife that day, though mostly because she was struggling to keep up whereas usually we’re walking at the same pace. (she has to walk faster, as I’m 14" taller than her lol)

Interesting; I do feel as though if I had been in the gym, I would have had some pretty decent strength gains. Instead we just walked fast for a few hours, with some running interspersed. No soreness the next day though, so I wonder how I would have felt if I had lifted.

That’s what I’m aiming for. The keto adaptation at least. I’m experimenting with OMAD, but I do enjoy occasionally having lunch with friends etc, and I would definitely miss that. I’m thinking that once I hit my fitness goals, I could maintain them with standard IF + periodic OMAD, and a clean diet, rather than going too hard on the fasting all the time.

It could also have been dehydration, although I was rather congested this morning and felt almost instantly better after blowing my nose to clear my sinuses. I do need to get some more electrolytes… I have some LMNT packets here somewhere, but only a couple left.

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Low intensity is relative based on your fitness level. If it didn’t take any effort before the fast, it won’t take any during the fast.

The fasted state is anti-inflammatory and tends to trigger less lactic acid. So you’ll feel less. Doesn’t mean your body doesn’t need to recover though. Or that there’s enough readily available energy present in the muscles for strenuous exercise.

There’s a world of difference between energy stored in the muscles and energy having to be delivered to them. In computer terms it’s like RAM vs L1 cache. With normal usage you don’t notice it, but when you tax the system, you’ll find out its limitations. I recommend against it.

Or at least have a spotter standing by. It’s no fun when the proprioceptive system concludes your body doesn’t have what it takes to do something without causing too much damage and simply turns off your ability to keep your arms or legs straight, making you spontaneously collapse with a hilarious WTF look on your face.

Unless I start dating a keto-cook I’ll stick to at least OMAD. In my case, I’ll miss the coffee-additives. Just don’t like black coffee.

Keto-adaptation can take a while to finally happen, I’ve heard of people where it took 6 months of 18:6 to OMAD to make it happen. All depends on how stuck in its ways the body is. If it’s been in near-constant glucosis for most of its life, it’ll be slow to respond. We would actually need to trigger an evolutionary response in the body by subjecting it to the constant stressors of having to switch. Which theoretically also afffects any future offspring, likely in a positive direction.

It’s why I want to hit that ADF + OMAD until I hit my target weight and then move towards OMAD with maybe a three-day (dry) fast once every three months. I’ve had a lot of successes with low calorie OMAD, like no more than 500 calories a day taken OMAD style. It did apparently cause an imbalance in my electrolytes, no idea why. Smart supplementation (timing) would be key.

It’s hard to imagine having so little excess body fat that I shouldn’t even do an extended fast any more.

I have all 4 of them in powder form. Mix with water and drink. Concentrated minerals taste funny though. :slight_smile:

It was kind of interesting to learn that water can only hold so many of a given mineral before it becomes saturated. Some excess minerals end up floating on the water as little white specks. In my electrolyte mix I have to keep stirring because they don’t all absorb.

One question I still haven’t fully been able to answer is what the effect is of replenishing sodium while fasting. I got the feeling that it makes my fasts more difficult. But this is only for extended fasts, with IF/OMAD drinking some salty water is common practice.

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Normally I’d have been flagging by that point, and definitely breathing heavy after running up several hills. This was unusual.

I have no way of testing the amount of glycogen in my muscles, and I’ve never experienced the “bonk” effect that runners talk about, so I don’t know if I depleted my glycogen or not. I need my body saturated with nanotech sensors lol.

I’m partial to machines anyway, so much less chance of getting pinned under a barbell. :nerd_face:

I can’t do black coffee either - 1-2tbsp each of MCT, grass-fed butter and heavy cream for me, as well as some Lakanto sweetener. (allegedly no glucose or insulin response)

That’s where metabolic adjuvants like C8 MCT oil, BHB, HMB (a leucine metabolite, for growing and preserving lean tissue), and Cardarine or Stenabolic come in… I have no interest in being a purist, I just want the results and I’ll do anything I am convinced is safe enough. :sweat_smile:

I’m targeting 10% BF at 180lbs, but as long as I get the look I want, I’m flexible on total body mass. lol.

191lbs @ 15.1% BF as of this morning… muscle mass has gone up 2lbs in the past 3 weeks, and fat percentage has gone down 0.3%… not sure at the moment what that converts to in lbs - the scale syncs to my wife’s phone, and she’s out with the kiddo at the moment.

I have reqs for a bunch of biomarker labs now, so I’ll go get those done sometime soon. Standard panel stuff only for now; I’ll get a hormone panel (free T etc) done before I start any metabolic supp cycles.

Replying to a related conversation on another thread.

I ate about 30 minutes ago, and even though it was a very low-carb meal that I don’t think anyone would consider “heavy”, I feel as though my brain has gone from 2x speed back down to 1x.

My brain, at the very least, feels much better when I’m in a fasted state. I just need the rest of my body to come to a consensus… lol.

Time to level this up.

Cardarine and Ostarine have been ordered for my lab rat… Hopefully, they’ll arrive in time for my next EF stack rotation… I, of course, listen to the subs where my lab rat can hear them too. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’ve got a wearable photobiomodulation device from ████████ on my upper left arm, and I thought something was wrong with it. But, the strap has just gotten too tight… somehow without doing anything, my biceps and triceps are larger…

My muscles feel WARM, as though I’ve been working out… but I’ve spent the last 8 hours at my desk.

Still working on getting that amazing energy back, but this is another interesting effect I’ve noticed.

1 day left on this rotation:

  • EmperorZP Test
  • EmperorFitness ST1
  • EmperorFitness ST2

After next week’s washout, should I switch it up to EF2/EF3 or stick with EF1/EF2 for the next one?

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I’m thinking there’s definitely some sort of self-image scripting in EF; last night I was showering before bed and looked in the mirror… usually, I see “fat guy”; but this time I saw “muscle, with some fat over top of it”… total perception change. I absolutely have a long way to go, but this feels like progress to me.

Today I’d planned to attempt to replicate the results from last Saturday, with the same walk around the same route. However, my wife changed her mind and decided we should go to a farmers market instead so that’s what we did.
But, I did a basic test and ran for a block on the way there and half a block on the way back. Tons of energy, though not really well utilized as the market was a lot of slow walking and stopping as the kiddo investigated each booth. Again, the biggest limitation was my footwear - my sandals simply don’t bend, and they “slap” the pavement which is not only super loud, it’s not comfortable at all.
So, tomorrow I’ll go look for some new running shoes. I’m still shocked at saying this, but footwear is the major limiting factor here, not my endurance!

I also managed to find some creatine (apparently there’s a shortage?) at a pharmacy, after being told by the guy at GNC that pretty much everywhere was having trouble keeping it in stock. Maybe I should go back and get another jar of it just in case.

My lab rat’s peptides order should be arriving next week, hopefully in time for the next stack rotation. I’ve got until then to decide between EF1/2 or EF2/3.

To anyone who has run an EF stack before, any thoughts? My goal is a body recomp, slanted more toward fat loss than muscle growth, but since I understand how much adding muscle contributes to raising BMR, adding some lean mass is definitely on my goal list.

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Please don’t fall for the vegan agenda. Plants are missing so many key nutrients like Vitamin A, D3, K2, Creatine etc…

EDIT: Not even mentioning plant toxins or the fact that vegetarians are found to have much higher levels of Advanced Glycation End Products, which is more than concerning.

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I’m beat (for today). Only walked 8 miles, albeit with some jogging in there too, but I did a resistance band workout this afternoon too, with what is allegedly 100lbs of resistance. I have major doubts lol… but it was good enough for what I’ve got at my house right now.

Looking forward:

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I think this would make a better 3rd slot than Emperor at the moment, which would make my new stack:

  • Emperor Fitness ST2
  • Emperor Fitness ST3
  • The Beast Within

Too much, or just right? :nerd_face:

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Maybe “too much” IS “just right”

Washout week. I think I overdid it yesterday, woke up a bit sore today, especially my neck and traps… gave me a headache this morning from the tightness, but it feels better now. I seem to have slept ok last night at least.

I’ve added 2 new supplements to my supp stack as well - I’ve added 4g of creatine monohydrate and 2.25g of L-carnitine tartrate each per day. No updates yet today on the peptides order, but hopefully that will be here in a couple of days.

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No major updates yet, this week has been super busy with work and I’ve had my head wrapped around the details of a new patent application as well as financial projections for DAYS now.

I’ve been going for more walks, with interspersed jogging or sprinting… I’m still amazed that I can do this without getting winded now… :exploding_head:

I also tried to do a couple of pushups the other night, to see if I could… I’ve got rather little upper body strength and haven’t been able to do proper pushups in years :sweat_smile: so imagine my surprise when I was able to crank out 25 of them with barely any effort. :astonished:

I’m excited to start my new stack on Monday… still really hoping my peptides will be here by then, but they’re still in transit.

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I finally looked into something which had been nagging my brain, regarding therapeutic use of Metformin and exercise (both cardio and strength training) effects. If anyone else is interested, here is the relevant clip from Dr. Rhonda Patrick:

I still need to go get some labs done (fasting insulin, A1c, hormones, triglycerides etc) but based on this I think I will go off my metformin for a few weeks. I’m taking it for longevity reasons, as well as AMPK activation (and cancer prevention), but I want strength gains… so yeah, that’s my plan.

but…

:man_shrugging:

Finally… no peptides yet, USPS says they’re still in transit…

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The shipment somehow got turned around and is on the way back to the sender… on the plus side, they’ve already sent a replacement order, with UPS this time. Wow, talk about customer service!

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@BLACKICE I’m a little confused , good or not good?

Me too.

One set of studies showed decreased benefit from exercise while taking metformin, yet another study showed increased benefit… the 2nd study was specifically with older people, so that may have been a factor. I’m still looking into it.

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Quick update: New PR for a single set of pushups: 40, for a total today (well, yesterday now… eep, it’s late) of 100. That is NUTS. Now we’ll see if I can do the same tomorrow… er… today… :sunglasses:

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Curious have you tried Empfit st1?