I’ve talked to a few people over the years about trauma. Relaxation, body awareness, trust, and emotions can all be triggers for further defense mechanisms. I’ve also seen someone say somatic therapy can help the body move towards more calm, but if the triggers and associations aren’t dealt with then they’ll revert to the same body armoring.
I believe it’s important for the body to find its own path to healing and it’s based in really loose principles that each mind has to interpret. So incorporating this into ZP or anti-recon would be a step backwards in terms of that flexibility imo.
This sounds like an excuse to remain in a contracted state of being and spending time mentally analyzing ‘triggers’ for eternity instead of facing what needs to be faced, feel what needs to be felt and released for ever.
Most somatic issues are from the past, the triggers are long gone because the individual has grown, but the somatic imprint that needs to be released is what keeps triggers alive and what needs to be dealt with.
I’m not talking about treating trauma with ZP or anti-recon, mate. However, I’m going to go deeper into TRE to see what else I can find, as I know the whole system finds its way to healing — I’m a living example of that.
I’m talking about pendulation as the main mechanism of our psychosomatic growth (not only as trauma healing process), which is also the axis of our growth on ZP. Serious trauma should be treated according to its severity and the patient’s state etc., just like you said. On the other hand, I dealt with my trauma on ZP, believe it or not.
Healing the whole system is about providing it with relevant data that helps it heal on its own. Any kind of healing works this way, I believe.
Moreover, I emphasized that strengthening the “container” (the whole psychosomatic system) helps with pendulation, and I’m experiencing for myself how it aids my own trauma healing process — I’ve almost eliminated the somatic trauma response I’ve suffered from for as long as I can remember.
I believe that having ZP or anti-recon mimic or foster the natural pendulation process in our system will greatly boost our growth, and this will translate into far better external results. This is mainly achieved by supporting “the container” (our psychosomatic system) as it swings between contraction and expansion, which form the essence of pendulation. Earth (and Water, from what I’ve read on the forums and the sales page) is the best tool to aid us in this process.
It may be but I wouldn’t try to diagnose anyone (I learnt my lesson). There are lots of people here who need healing titles. However, although those titles (especially the DR one-year run) helped me deal with the emotional and psychological aspects of my trauma, they did little to nothing for the somatic aspect. GLM and Earth did wonders for me in that regard in just two weeks.
I agree that more ‘somatic’ based scripting is really good, anything involving the body in some way, as we’ve seen the amazing results from GLM, Wanted and Hero Earth.
Here, @RagnarLothbrok is experiencing another contraction related to the theme I presented in my first post.
Him: The sadness I feel about my ex is immense, I feel like shit, I feel like I won’t ever have any relationship with a female, I feel a strong desire/need for a female and I have a feeling that I will never have one.
Me: This is classic contraction, mate.
These are sings of contraction:
Increased Muscle Tension: Tightness in muscles, especially in the jaw, shoulders, neck, and back, often accompanies contraction. This tension can contribute to a sense of rigidity or being “stuck.”
Shallow Breathing: Breathing may become rapid, shallow, or irregular during moments of contraction. This physiological response is linked to the body’s stress reaction.
Hypervigilance: Heightened alertness and sensitivity to potential threats or triggers are common in trauma-related contraction. This can lead to a state of hyperarousal where individuals are constantly scanning their environment for danger.
Emotional Intensity: Intense emotions such as fear, anger, sadness, or shame may surface during contraction. These emotions may feel overwhelming and difficult to manage.
Difficulty in Thinking or Concentrating: Cognitive processes may become impaired during contraction, leading to difficulty in focusing, making decisions, or processing information.
Feeling Overwhelmed or Flooded: Sensory overload or feeling flooded with emotions or sensations is another sign of contraction. This can lead to an inability to cope or manage the intensity of internal experiences.
Avoidance Behaviors: Individuals may engage in behaviors or thoughts aimed at avoiding triggers or situations that evoke trauma-related memories or sensations. Avoidance is a common coping mechanism during contraction.
Physical Discomfort or Pain: Contraction can manifest as physical discomfort or pain in the body, such as headaches, stomachaches, or general discomfort without a clear medical cause.
Feeling Stuck or Frozen: A sense of being immobilized or unable to move forward emotionally or mentally is indicative of contraction. This feeling of being “stuck” is a hallmark of trauma-related responses.
Heightened Startle Response: An exaggerated startle response, where individuals react intensely to sudden stimuli or noises, is another sign of increased arousal and contraction in trauma therapy.
Does any point resonate with you?
It’s important to acknowledge contraction and gradually work toward expansion.
In my case, it’s simply about acknowledging it in real time (as it’s a somatic trauma response mentioned in point 10 I’ve greatly minimized but not yet fully eliminated), breathing in deeply, and then slowly breathing out while releasing the tension in my neck, shoulders, back, and chest.
Him: Some points yes, I used to get everything during recon I remember, now it’s much better compered to how I was back then.
Water is also a good choice yes, Wanted does have emotional scripting so over time it should also help, I think.
@Fractal_Explorer as you can see, even though pendulation is used in the context of healing trauma, it’s a natural process occurring in our system.
Now, thanks to Earth, what was once called recon can now be called pendulation, since after contraction (previously called recon), expansion occurs upon acknowledging the contraction and making even a slight effort to overcome it.
I described above (in my reply to him) how this works in my case when I referred to point 10 on the list of signs.
Feel free to develop your opinion further than 5 words, there’s no harm in expressing yourself don’t be shy, everyone can benefit from diverging views.
FWIW, I didn’t think it was sloppy myself, having seen the post.
To your first paragrap[h here:
I was in assent when I read this, and thinking of the difference between the mind, the somatic response (ie the body), and the other levels including soul.
My own take elsewhere, which I’m clarifying in this post, is that the “Zero Point” for which the tech is named is the OG manifestation of the soul, aka what yoga would call “purusha”, In response to this, working with the script, the goal is to move away from the purely mental analysis that goes on due to situations and progress into emotional energy to be expressed or released, or taking action to align with the script.
The somatic response is only part of the equation. It and its “triggers” can be gone beyond.
No not an excuse. Just being mindful of not putting all the solution in somatic experiencing. When something isn’t working it’s good to have flexibility.
I like somatics but it’s just another modality in a long list of modalities. Sometimes it works for the individual and sometimes it doesn’t. Nobody has a definitive answer to stuff like this. Ideally I’d like to see a future where people can get help and feel better without being put through adverse scenarios under the assumption it always gets worse before it gets better.
I was not agreeing with the fact that working and releasing the somatic blocks can create further blocks if the original trigger is not dealt with.
The somatic blocks contains the trigger/cause within itself so releasing the physical block brings resolution on all levels, mental/emotional, because emotional and mental blocks are an extension of the body’s blocks, it’s all one system.
And because of that there’s obviously a variety of ways to go about dealing with issues and to each their own choice of course.
This made me think of this small river I just spent an hour clearing out branches and leaves from to make a wall to have a pool to get in. Sometimes when clearing a block the water starts flowing better at that spot but it has ramifications down the line because the flow gets more intense and it ends up coming really strong on another block or start diverging and overflow in a different direction.
So it never has to get worse to get better but sometimes it just has to, and it’s all very specific to the individual and their unique pathway.
It is a system but maybe this is where I diverge in my understanding or experience of it. I see it as a bidirectional system. Where both body and mind have equal effect in how they can facilitate changes. That means if the mind deems releasing a block unsafe, it won’t happen, and if it does happen there can be backlash because there wasn’t consent to do so.
I see what you mean now, but isn’t the point of using subs to bypass the safety mechanisms that our mind has built?
I feel like if something really isn’t safe for us and we know it for sure then even if subconsciously we are suggested to do so our conscious mind would still not engage.
But again I haven’t fully understood precisely what @anon78457040 is suggesting regarding somatic scripting.
I just know that whatever they did in the latest updates it’s feeling really good in the body and is accelerating integration of the sub.
Mmmm to me that would go against free will scripting in zp. Maybe in other subs created by developers that’s the goal, but you can see how much turbulence that kicks up. I think that’s what makes these subs work so well, there’s no bypassing or trickery to get an outcome. It’s consent and a whole system focus on growth.
Until the release of Earth, GLM, and WANTED, it seemed there was a preference for addressing, through ZP, a one-directional system (“mental strucutres”), if we use @Fractal_Explorer’s terminology. Now, however, the aforementioned programs appear to have unified the ZP approach to address the bidirectional system we are — our psychosomatic system (therefore, addressing “somatic structures” as well).
I only pointed out that focusing on pendulation would be even more beneficial to the approach that seems to have been taken in ZP development toward ZPU. Pendulation (contraction before expansion) seems to be embedded in the growth we experience on ZP. Addressing the somatic side effects of pendulation has already proven really effective, as I mentioned in the first post.
I believe the shift from reconciliation toward pendulation is the way to go.
I’m not sure that’s what free will scripting is about, I didn’t think about it this way at least.
I think in the case we’re talking about our free will is the choice to listen to the sub or not, and receive suggestions that bypasses our conscious choices but doesn’t enforce them
Everyone’s different. I’m not saying that approach can’t work, but I think a certain type of person or individual responds better than others.
Hypothetically if someone has a complex internal world, effectively different fragments of self, then free will scripting could apply because even though that internal world is you, those existing in it can respond in a fully autonomous way where they essentially appear to be a different person due to differing views and perspectives.
So I’m not saying that was the original intention of the free will scripting, I couldn’t possibly know what saint and fire put in there. But from my experience the conscious is just the first line of defense. Bypassing that is not a guarantee that it will be assimilated into my system. The neutrality of zp is what I think makes that easier, the script is presented as ideas to be acted up on not a coercion or force.
I would say that in my experience the lines can blur a lot and at times there is no clear distinction between conscious and subconscious, yet they do very much act in different ways. Maybe they communicate back and forth so fast and in an instant. That’s why I like the approach of considering everything vs a solely bottom up or top down method.
