Guess you could say it’s the “go out and help” side of Chosen, that has stayed with me 
But yeah, you’re right, me doing things just to guide others wasn’t even the way I used to be. I came to subclub with the purpose of becoming my most “alpha” and true self, and building my physique, all these tests are not for me to do, and I think Saint would also agree and say “we have our own private testers, you tested enough when you volunteered”
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I swear to God if you change your stack one more time 
Stick with the ones you want to do. Don’t do it for anyone else. Whilst you may possibly have a high flow factor don’t abuse it nor abuse it for us via testing. We can do our own tests and stick with guidelines etc.
Enjoy your own journey man.
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Correct me if i’m wrong
Not long time ago you were reluctant to run titles such as Emperor or Khan
If this is so, what made you change your disposition?
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Speaks for itself, a clear and obvious sign to stop wasting time and making up excuses for it. Trust and followt your intuition 
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Hahah I’m not planning to change the stack, in fact, it was more about only keeping 2 (emperor and wanted), but just using the final preview (private test) version because that’s the one I was also using before the public preview started (previous journal) before my graduation, and I feel like that’s my WZP baseline, not the public preview version, if that makes sense.
Yeah you’re right, I guess part of it is because the selflessness I felt and got from Chosen, which keeps making me wanna take the extra mile for the community.
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You’re not wrong, in fact, I didn’t wanna do them because of all the journals and reviews I saw, and the effects didn’t align with how I wanna be, but the current Emperor ZP is much more “me” than any of the versions before, there’s no “coldness”, and it even made me more sensual, in a way.
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You’re right man, I’ve been trying to do so many things, but there wasn’t as much selfishness, in the sense that I wasn’t as focused on just what I wanted, but now that’s what I’ll do.
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Exactly, let go of the resistance, and stop seeking the answer out there. Being selfish is being yourself, the thing that only you do best. You become the best inspiration to others when you follow what’s already within 
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Man thanks for your words, they’re very uplifting.
Now I know what exactly I should be doing 
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On the results side of things (WZP + EZP at 1 loop each);
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much deeper voice, got 3 comments on it already.
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music taste is changing.
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feeling more “expensive”.
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have a new set of goals with these 2 subs now;
1- total control of my reality (in terms of success and all),
2- fitness model looks and body.
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Sounds like it was a message from your higher self telling you to remain focused on Wanted and Emperor. The W E were your instructions as far as I can tell
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I actually tried to connect with my subconscious while awake (thanks to @Trader telling me to meditate to find the answer) and ended up doing the Invictus method in a workout earlier.
It’s safe to say that it seems like the “big boss” inside has calmed down, and is happy with me only doing the subs that benefit me now, not subs that I use just to test out (like ME ZP, Spartan ZP, Mogul ZP, etc.), as just WZP and EZP are more than enough.
It’s funny because I know I can handle so much more, but it’s almost as if the “big boss” says “just because you can do it, doesn’t mean you need to”.
Feels like I gave him too much power with Emperor ZP 
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Haha, the synchronicities are for real! I was just doing random sounds with my voice thinking it sounded deeper than normal. And as I was doing that I opened this thread… (2 loops EZP)
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Emperor’s giving us another round of puberty
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Background
The Mind is like a huge mansion or palace with many rooms. Some of the doors are locked or stuck. Some of the rooms are tidy, some less so.
The little-self or ego is like a person who walks through the rooms. It’s like a little bright icon or avatar that mind creates to help with organizing tasks. It thinks that it is in charge, and it kind of is, sort of, much of the time. As long as nothing really big is happening.
‘you’, and ‘i’ are names we give to the little avatar figure. I’ll call him ‘U’ for clarity’s sake.
There are so many rooms, let’s say 1000. U only spends time in about 8 of them most of the time. He calls those 8 rooms “me” and “mine”, because of how comfortable he is in those rooms. But actually, the mind is all 1000 rooms.
Mind’s Eye unlocks more of the rooms and opens up more of the doors.
Shadow experiences. Symbolic experiences. Parts of the mind that we are unused to. New aspects of what we are. They start to become more integrated.
Parts of the mind that we may not think of as ‘me’. (Spoiler alert: it’s all you.) They start to make contact and express themselves more.
So, in short, you ran Mind’s Eye.
And so your Mind…Eyed.
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you saying this reminds me of a line I love from Nietzche;
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
for some reason, after reading what you said, and reading this line again, it’s making a lot of sense and makes me think that may be what happened was that I was causing the “big boss” some discomfort by opening doors (as you put it) in my mind that were closed for a very long time.
this scares me, I thought ME would be mainly to visualize better and boost manifestations, but I guess just assuming that was a disrespect towards ME, and now that I got what I wanted (manifesting the job at the Olympics), I think it would be best if I kept my distance for now, but there’s a level of intrigue there…
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Your mind responds very naturally, quickly, and clearly to subliminals.
Especially ZP subs.
That’s a strength. And every single Sub Club program’s a good one.
Nevertheless, it’s a very good idea to run programs that you truly value and that feel right for you at the time, since you know whatever you run will be giving you profound results.
Invictus! (The crowd yells) 
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@Malkuth your words flatter me, thank you 
But I do have a question, and I wanted to ask you personally about 2 specific multi-stagers.
Alchemist and DR.
What would happen to me 
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I know DR is mainly for healing, and but the only thing I can even possibly think about that it could heal would be my unhealthy obsession with pushing my body too much.
Alchemist, on the other hand, feels like it might make the “big boss” a bit too uncomfortable if it does anything similar to ME.
Edit: I actually started thinking, what would happen if I made the “big boss” feel even more discomfort with ME ZP ?
Like yeah there’s this part of the dream;
But even then, what could possibly happen?
Earlier in the day, I was scared, and it took a good hour or 2 after waking up for the trembling to stop, but now I’m just filled with intrigue.
What do you think?
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I’m so sorry but Alchemist is such an underrated program. Like underrated as hell. You should use it when it’s ZP’d. I love it so much.
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That you should probably stop overexposing with Mind’s Eye. We told you all that ZP is extremely powerful and to follow the guidelines. I know you’re used to experimenting with us, and we still support that mission to some degree, but we thought you all would run an extra loop once a week or something, not go overboard.
@Invictus’s experience isn’t and won’t be common. His dream was so profound for a couple of reasons: first, for an unknown reason, he integrates and executes the scripts insanely fast – possibly the fastest I’ve ever seen on the forum. As soon as he joined the ZP test and ran a few loops, he was literally quoting / directly referencing large passages of the Wanted script (though, you do have another competitor arising in the form of one @friday) in its entirety.
We actually call this “Flow Factor,” our term for how aligned a person seems to be with the script. When you start quoting the script, you have high flow factor. When you quote the script that fast, you have very high flow factor.
The thing about integrating the scripts quickly, however, is that they tend to not only generate super fast results, but they also generate harsh recon when it hits. Given that @Invictus works out pretty much everyday, a lot of that negative recon energy dissipates at the gym, but I knew it was going to catch up with him eventually.
Mix the high flow factor with the fact that he experiments with the loops and most likely overexposed himself to Mind’s Eye, which enhances your visualization and cognitive abilities surrounding visualization, then have a nightmare and… you get this.
Remember, dreams are (partially) the result of the mind processing information received throughout the day, and a ZP sub contains A LOT of information. The dreams are already vivid on ZP, and you mix something like Mind’s Eye in it – even with it’s emphasis on averting negative thoughts – and then overexpose to it?
Understand that overexposing isn’t going to enhance results. You get to a point of diminishing returns because you need time to process the information. With Zero Point, slow and steady is the key. As for an interpretation of your dream, @Trader is right – everyone’s personal mythologies are unique to them (with some shared elements due to culture and society).
BUT, since I do study dream analysis, if I had to guess, Mind’s Eye is the culprit. Sounds like, instead of the subconscious sending up random imagery and signals like it normally does (even in dreams), with Mind’s Eye, you visualized having a direct conversation with your reconning subconscious. Do you have any hang ups regarding cognitive enhancement in general, or your own intelligence? While Mind’s Eye ZP focuses mostly on visualization, there are elements of Limitless in there, including developing a photographic memory (so you can better visualize the things you’ve seen). If any of these topics causes even a mild fear response (try thinking of yourself as the smartest person in the world and see if any anxiety arises), then you’ll know what life issues you need to analyze.
Also, given the general theme of powerlessness in the dream, are there any particular issues going on where you feel particularly vulnerable, like you have no control over your life there? Of course, you don’t have to answer these publicly, just a place to start.
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