Background The Mind is like a huge mansion or palace with many rooms. Some of the doors are locked or stuck. Some of the rooms are tidy, some less so.
The little-self or ego is like a person who walks through the rooms. It’s like a little bright icon or avatar that mind creates to help with organizing tasks. It thinks that it is in charge, and it kind of is, sort of, much of the time. As long as nothing really big is happening.
‘you’, and ‘i’ are names we give to the little avatar figure. I’ll call him ‘U’ for clarity’s sake.
There are so many rooms, let’s say 1000. U only spends time in about 8 of them most of the time. He calls those 8 rooms “me” and “mine”, because of how comfortable he is in those rooms. But actually, the mind is all 1000 rooms.
Mind’s Eye unlocks more of the rooms and opens up more of the doors.
Shadow experiences. Symbolic experiences. Parts of the mind that we are unused to. New aspects of what we are. They start to become more integrated.
Parts of the mind that we may not think of as ‘me’. (Spoiler alert: it’s all you.) They start to make contact and express themselves more.
you saying this reminds me of a line I love from Nietzche;
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
for some reason, after reading what you said, and reading this line again, it’s making a lot of sense and makes me think that may be what happened was that I was causing the “big boss” some discomfort by opening doors (as you put it) in my mind that were closed for a very long time.
this scares me, I thought ME would be mainly to visualize better and boost manifestations, but I guess just assuming that was a disrespect towards ME, and now that I got what I wanted (manifesting the job at the Olympics), I think it would be best if I kept my distance for now, but there’s a level of intrigue there…
Your mind responds very naturally, quickly, and clearly to subliminals.
Especially ZP subs.
That’s a strength. And every single Sub Club program’s a good one.
Nevertheless, it’s a very good idea to run programs that you truly value and that feel right for you at the time, since you know whatever you run will be giving you profound results.
But I do have a question, and I wanted to ask you personally about 2 specific multi-stagers.
Alchemist and DR.
What would happen to me ?
I know DR is mainly for healing, and but the only thing I can even possibly think about that it could heal would be my unhealthy obsession with pushing my body too much.
Alchemist, on the other hand, feels like it might make the “big boss” a bit too uncomfortable if it does anything similar to ME.
Edit: I actually started thinking, what would happen if I made the “big boss” feel even more discomfort with ME ZP ?
Like yeah there’s this part of the dream;
But even then, what could possibly happen?
Earlier in the day, I was scared, and it took a good hour or 2 after waking up for the trembling to stop, but now I’m just filled with intrigue.
What do you think?
That you should probably stop overexposing with Mind’s Eye. We told you all that ZP is extremely powerful and to follow the guidelines. I know you’re used to experimenting with us, and we still support that mission to some degree, but we thought you all would run an extra loop once a week or something, not go overboard.
@Invictus’s experience isn’t and won’t be common. His dream was so profound for a couple of reasons: first, for an unknown reason, he integrates and executes the scripts insanely fast – possibly the fastest I’ve ever seen on the forum. As soon as he joined the ZP test and ran a few loops, he was literally quoting / directly referencing large passages of the Wanted script (though, you do have another competitor arising in the form of one @friday) in its entirety.
We actually call this “Flow Factor,” our term for how aligned a person seems to be with the script. When you start quoting the script, you have high flow factor. When you quote the script that fast, you have very high flow factor.
The thing about integrating the scripts quickly, however, is that they tend to not only generate super fast results, but they also generate harsh recon when it hits. Given that @Invictus works out pretty much everyday, a lot of that negative recon energy dissipates at the gym, but I knew it was going to catch up with him eventually.
Mix the high flow factor with the fact that he experiments with the loops and most likely overexposed himself to Mind’s Eye, which enhances your visualization and cognitive abilities surrounding visualization, then have a nightmare and… you get this.
Remember, dreams are (partially) the result of the mind processing information received throughout the day, and a ZP sub contains A LOT of information. The dreams are already vivid on ZP, and you mix something like Mind’s Eye in it – even with it’s emphasis on averting negative thoughts – and then overexpose to it?
Understand that overexposing isn’t going to enhance results. You get to a point of diminishing returns because you need time to process the information. With Zero Point, slow and steady is the key. As for an interpretation of your dream, @Trader is right – everyone’s personal mythologies are unique to them (with some shared elements due to culture and society).
BUT, since I do study dream analysis, if I had to guess, Mind’s Eye is the culprit. Sounds like, instead of the subconscious sending up random imagery and signals like it normally does (even in dreams), with Mind’s Eye, you visualized having a direct conversation with your reconning subconscious. Do you have any hang ups regarding cognitive enhancement in general, or your own intelligence? While Mind’s Eye ZP focuses mostly on visualization, there are elements of Limitless in there, including developing a photographic memory (so you can better visualize the things you’ve seen). If any of these topics causes even a mild fear response (try thinking of yourself as the smartest person in the world and see if any anxiety arises), then you’ll know what life issues you need to analyze.
Also, given the general theme of powerlessness in the dream, are there any particular issues going on where you feel particularly vulnerable, like you have no control over your life there? Of course, you don’t have to answer these publicly, just a place to start.
Hmmm but my total loops so far with Mind’s Eye we’re just 2 (on different days) .
That was also something I concluded yesterday in my meditation during the workout; it’s both a gift and a curse if abused, just like any drug in the world.
Like many bodybuilders have insanely good response to steroids, to the point where they can only take one compound and win competitions easily (not something like Mr. Universe or Olympia though), but that curiosity and thirst to be even better often leads to a path of pain (I personally know a guy who did that, and ended up getting humbled).
Well the other day I mentioned on the forum about how I dropped out of the previous degree before getting my business degree, then brought it up to my mom, and even though she didn’t say anything, I realized that somewhere deep within, I still had disappointment inside, that it was one of the things I gave up on.
Another thing could be League of Legends, while I’m good, I’m not that good, and whenever I lose, I feel like I sometimes let it effect how I see myself, as well as judge my self-worth, which is wrong because at the end of the day, it’s just a video game.
Both of those “issues” are (in a way) related to my cognitive capabilities.
Well you know how in the dream my subconscious “me” said that he’d mess up my reality?
Yesterday was my anniversary with my girl, she barely goes out ever, and hasn’t been out since we met on my birthday (24th December), but somehow caught Covid, then there’s the League stuff, so there’s powerlessness and vulnerability that I feel here and there, but it mostly ends up being a result of things I can’t control regardless, so I don’t know why they’d cause those feelings of vulnerability in the first place.
Washouts don’t really seem to do a lot for me most times. Past about 2-3 days. I’ve been having interesting results with BV3 lately. So I’m dialing in a nice balance (?) between intent/guidance and following my intuition as for actions to take.
I was actually having similar experience with mind’s eye terminus². Anxiety, vivid dreams that when I woke up I could still feel the effect of the dreams. E.g if someone slapped me in the dream, I woke up with a kind of similar pain.
Also I wanted to say this earlier but I had to go do something, I hinted at it in my PM to @SaintSovereign, but I got a much better dream earlier.
Basically, I first had my “meditation” during my workout, then drank the tea before bed, with the intent to meet the other “me” again, to have a more civil conversation with him, and I did, which now makes me feel like I have a much better control of this other side, but we did reach an agreement, and I know for a fact that it’s also what Saint would tell me to do anyways.
The agreement is as follows;
no more testing.
only doing things (including subs and types of workouts) that I personally like, feel good from, and for my benefit ONLY.
reducing exposure this week (I’ll alternate between one day for WZP and the next listening day for Emperor).
@SaintSovereign have you looked into precognitive dreams? I talked with Invictus privately today and it seems like one major thing we have in common are our dreams, indicating that we are having a closer connection with our subconscious minds. However, he is also the ONLY one I know besides myself who has regularly precognitive dreams…
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