The chronicles of Invictus and ZP

Journals - Major Programs
#543

First impression, definitely drop Spartan if you’re not into having 2 physical shifting subs. It all depends on your purpose in life.

I’m going to edit this more, I don’t know why i hit “reply” right away.

Personally, I started listening to Mogul, and I feel the same euphoria and perfection on Mogul that you feel on Wanted and Chosen. Chosen wasn’t really all that great for me because my interests are less social and more tangible. I don’t want an air of success, I want a business that generates consistent ROI. If I have to be social or anti social to do it, either is fine.

You might not get the same beautiful results from Mogul, but then again, it’s such an amazing foundational wealth and success sub, it’ll pair amazingly with the work you’ll be doing for the olympics, it’ll be amazing at helping you build long term financial and success habits… I already feel my urge to spend money recklessly completely diminished… it’ll be amazing at helping you find what you want to do for your life with money and then start doing it.

If what you end up wanting to do is focus on building a brand on YouTube, it’ll help. But it’ll also help you question that and find something that’s not just good for you but PERFECT for you… through rounds of iteration. Maybe you’ll go into YouTube content, and then one specific part of YouTube content will resonate the most, and you’ll double down on whatever it was you learned from making content. Or maybe something specific about working with the olympics will show you what life could be like if you doubled down and put all your emphasis on that.

Stark has “fame” scripting, yes, but being successful online is not just about Fame, it’s about business building. Each 25-word facebook post follows a business framework. It takes business savvy to become famous these days. I would say Mogul would help you get famous faster than Stark would… and then maybe once you’re a bit more famous, Stark would take it to the next level.

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#544

The reason I said that Stark would be next for later on is because I wanted to use my connection with the Olympics committee for my advantage and then use that to become a famous trainer/fitness content creator.

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#545

December gaaanngggg

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#546

This is the most important statement ever said on SubClub.

We always are ambitious about something. if it’s not pickup, it’s gaming. if it’s not gaming, it’s career. if it’s not career, it’s a spiritual goal. If it’s not that, it’s bodybuilding. If it’s not that, it’s developing a skill like cooking or boxing.

We are vessels of ambition that must be pointed somewhere consciously otherwise they will move to unconscious ambitions like gaming. Getting obsessed with gaming is a manifestation of ambition not directed elsewhere.

Where do you want to point your ambition? If it’s wealth, get Mogul. If it’s girls and relationship, double down on Wanted/Chosen + add a ZP like Diamond or PS… if it’s gaming, get gaming mastery x.

The question of what your ambition is and why isn’t properly addressed with subs some times. People spend so much time chasing their ambitions but don’t question their ambitions in the first place.

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#547

I didn’t understand why you had both in your stack however kind of also did at the same time.

I think you should stay with WANTED for sure. It helps you a lot.

In regards to the idol and making your own content thing - do you already have StarkQv2? Stark is one of my favourite subs and it’ll help you a lot if that’s what you’re wanting. It’s not really about the fame but the recognition you want for your work.

If that’s what you truly want and after.

I’d definitely use Stark if your aim is reaching people and getting content that’s innovative and your own out there for sure.

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#548

Nothing wrong with the stack IMO. @Skadoosh is running the same.

Honestly @Invictus you’re getting such great results with those two subs, you could even let Chosen work it’s magic a bit before adding in a third sub. Or this could be a time to run a cycle of regeneration ZP since you won’t be working till January anyways and will be able to chill for the holidays.

Regen actually ain’t such a bad idea. Pick up a new sub once there’s more ZP options available to choose from and you start work in Jan.

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#549

I meant in regards to him personally, because I knew he was internally divided between Spartan and WANTED.

I understand why both would be used in general.

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#550

That’s the thing man, it’s like my current ambitions are either already being met (body, girls, social status) or on hold due to time (work), but other than that I feel like I’m just trying to find new ambitions.

I’ve had this feeling once before too, and people kept telling me “just enjoy your holidays, you’d be wishing for free time later in life”, but like, I feel like a person who’s barely doing anything with his life.

Maybe I’m just impatient, as I had a talk with my mom (she’s a psychologist), and her opinion is that I’m just feeling this way because my life feels static to me and I’m comparing myself to others, even though I have no reason to.

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#551

Diamond, Mogul, Regen seem like 3 different directions you can take that would all be good to do before work.

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#552

Diamond would be pure fun, Regen is emotional prep, Mogul is mental/career/financial prep

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#553

The only answer I have for this is “why not” :rofl::rofl::rofl:

But seriously, that was the actual reason, I had no real motivation but to use it to heal something (fear of certain exercises), and even that is beyond fixed now.

So yeah, I don’t really know what SZP + WZP could achieve, that I can’t achieve with WZP alone, or maybe 2 loops of WZP.

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#554

I get that haha.

Honestly I’d stick with WANTED over Spartan.

Plus didn’t you say WANTED was helping you bulk? I know you said Spartan wanted you to eat clean. One of your goals is to get bigger or so so stick with WANTED for sure.

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#555

@Billions I’m actually quite convinced about mogul, but I feel like I’m doing the same thing as before when I bought Spartan, where I added it just to add it.

I’m thinking maybe what I should do, is drop Spartan and just keep WZP and Chosen for now, they were already too good anyways, and as I mentioned before, those 2 are going to be the main subs I’d be using regardless of the third one.

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#556

I think the best solution would be to make a custom suited to this.

This is just off the top of my head:

  1. Emperor Fitness ST4 Q Core
  2. Spartan Core
  3. Mogul Q Core
  4. Chiron
  5. True Sell
  6. Gloryseeker
  7. Ethereal Presence
  8. Iron Frame
  9. Extreme Exercise Motivation
  10. Fusion Optimized
  11. Health Codex
  12. Inexhaustible
  13. Serum X
  14. SPS: Muscular System
  15. Approachability Aura
  16. Song of Joy
  17. Emperor’s Voice
  18. Lifeblood Fable
  19. Yggdrasil
  20. Mosaic

Basically a mix of fitness, social, and wealth modules to follow this path if you so choose.

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#557

Yeah, that point is also a reason I’m thinking about stopping Spartan.

If I’m honest, a lot of people keep saying “clean eating is a must”, but like, I’m not competing right now, nor is it “abs season” :rofl:.

It’s winter and I want to bulk, maybe that’s why I’m constantly feeling like dropping Spartan every day.

#558

I’d say it’s probably just a short low, it’ll pass
It’s necessary, from personal experience it’s during those times that you discover new hobby or passions, or develop ideas that you wouldn’t otherwise

Make it the most like everything else
And soon you’'l be able to enjoy both easy things and new opportunities full of challenge you’ll have cherry picked for yourself

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#559

You know why I didn’t make that one custom yet?
Because I (kinda) regretted with my previous custom, and thinking about it now, I don’t want to build one now, at least until ZP customs are ready (so like around second Quarter or third of 2022).

I feel like there’s still so much to get from major titles, and even though everyone sees me getting so many results from WANTED, I can tell you that even after 6 months of use, there’s still a lot to gain from it.

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#560

No hurry at all. Think of it as a ZP Custom idea.

Meanwhile something like Mogul ZP might give you ideas for a career in fitness right now.

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#561

There’s a push inside me that’s telling me “bro start doing magic again”

I actually used to perform and get gigs and all, as well as had an Instagram that grew up to 1k followers in 2 months with magic, then because of my toxic ex, I stopped it all.

Here’s one of the old videos I made back when I was in uni;

Maybe I should get back to this :thinking:

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#562

That’s what I’m leaning towards tbh.

Maybe for now, keep using WZP and Chosen, maybe switch out Spartan for RICH (call me an ass but my bday is coming up and I wouldn’t mind some extra nice gifts :rofl:), then maybe use Mogul after that :thinking:

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