The chosen stark! (+Love bomb)

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#21

Im really liking the aura subs. I think my main issue with the archetypal subs was that i really liked parts of it, but other parts didnt fit me. Like with WANTED, i enjoy the getting chased and all that, but i didnt like how passive it was. This dynamic was present in basically all major subs ive tried that arent healing. It really hinders the sub from working like a cohesive whole when you dont respond to parts of it.

Meanwhile these aura subs have a pretty tight goal wich they perform, and perform really well. I really prefer this kind of approach and can see far more benefit from it.
The last archetype ill try is gonna be daredevil, as i really expect that it could fit me well. If this one doesnt fit me than i gotta go for chosen + stark, as these two together can possibly achieve a similair result as what i want from DD.

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#22

This is not a bad thing, you know.
You shouldn’t fantasize about becoming a certain “type” of a person, when you have your own uniqueness to show off.

If anything, before choosing what to run, do some self awareness exercises (like question yourself, meditate, etc.), and do some online personality tests, as well as read/watch videos on different archetypes or personalities.

The best way to do this (the way I do it :stuck_out_tongue:) is by remembering all the different fictional characters you’ve seen and read about, whether they’re from a comic or even anime, just try to re-imagine them as normal people, and search about their personality analysis on google or YouTube, it would help a lot.

An example: I love the character of Lucifer, more than any fictional character, but since he’s a TV show character, the script of the show plays a big part in how the plot develops, however, if you re-imagine him as a normal person in our world, you’ll get the following qualities:

  • charisma and charm.
  • fame and recognition.
  • high level of attractiveness and attraction.
  • high level of influence.
  • charming sense of humor.
  • witty comebacks.
  • extremely skilled at everything “sex”.
  • rich.

Now, let’s say you wanted to make a stack to achieve a transformation from @TheDerpinator to Lucifer Morningstar, then you will need to do the following, in terms of subs:

Diamond ZP (did my run in private test)
WANTED ZP or KHAN ZP (need to run this for quite sometime; done already)
Stark ZP (for fame and money)
Chosen (to be able to lead and influence people)
ME ZP (to visualize him more)

And boom, there you have it, rotate those and you get your transformation :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: I know I said “don’t try to become someone else”, but what I meant to say with the whole explanation was: don’t try to emulate an archetype that doesn’t vibe with you at all, and if you can find a fictional character you do vibe with, then try to make a stack around them, since that “vibing” is an indication that you can be like that.

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#23

Man, i love the way you phrase things! So clear and easy to follow. Great idea, ive never really thought about doing things like that.

Anyway ive really thought about what you said, done a bunch of personality tests and general research of personality types that fit me. (Basically all characters i love fit into the same type too so that descision was easily made).

With personality tests i usually got INTP, wich i dont really vibe with as i just love meeting new people to much and can easily get bored of artsy things. Also definitely not someone that follows every rule lol. ENTP however fits me way more, and fits more how i desire to be too. I can somewhat lack assertiveness but i always stand up for others despite that. Very easily excitable and can usually make others excited for the things im excited about. This also explains why chosen has been such a great fit for me, as it just fits not just what i desire to be, but also what my strengths are.

As for characters that i look up to. The main one would be the doctor from doctor who, a show i adored as a young teen. Some of the traits that would describe him would be:

  • hella charismatic
  • quick witted
  • always a sense of having things under control (stoic?)
  • natural leader
  • curious and excited bout anything new
  • contagious excitement
  • always stand up for the little man.
  • omnicompetent

Given how unrealistic the context of the show is compared to the real world though, there are a few other things id add to make it more fitting for the real world. That would be:

  • discipline
  • drive
  • dedication.
    (Even better than double D)

These are definitely things ive struggled with soo much in the past and doing these personality tests just made me realise how big of a nuissance it has been.

This all said and done. Im thinking possibly a good stack for this would be:

  • chosen (leader, charismatic, principled)
  • stark (charisma, excitement, witted, competent)
  • godlike masculinity suprisingly (stoic, triple D, the power to open the path for these other traits)

I still have some doubts since stark in particulair felt really dense when i used it in the past and i have no idea what to expect from GLM. Also the complete lack of anything seduction is something i miss. Alltough i suppose that may just be a byproduct of all these other traits.

Overall though i definitely wanna give this a try!

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#24

Doesn’t the character reincarnate every so often? Are you talking about a specific version or the character in general?

#25

Discipline drive dedication.

It would mostly be the one from david tennant that i was thinking off, but im pretty sure these traits would apply to all the ones ive seen.

#26

I see. Thank you.

#27

See how easy it was :stuck_out_tongue:
Also that stack is good, I think you’ll get the “triple D” without having to add GLM.

I ran Stark and Chosen the last few days before my washout, and I felt like I was getting adored everywhere :stuck_out_tongue:

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#28

Only one way to find out​:smirk::smirk:

@RVconsultant can you change the title to: “The chosen stark! (+Love bomb)”

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#29

Ive been loving stark today! Today i had my introduction drinks to the fraternity for climbing. Had a blast, was being super social, made a ton of new friends. I felt on freaking fire, had everyone laughing for every joke i made, was being really witty, also made plans with a few of them to meat again. I didnt feel awkward in the slightest. It did somewhat feel like i was the “life of the party”

The charisma on these subs definitely feels like its through the roof.

Its pretty early to tell, but this definitely feels like a stack for the longer term. Im loving it so far!

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#30

Recon on ZP is extremely different compared to how it was on Qv2. Right now the recon im facing is that i just started calling out every person that pisses me off.
It isnt neccessairly that im calling them out of anger, tbf i dont really care to much how they respond, but its more out of principle. Ill give an example:

There is this dude i know that never dares says anything bad to someones face and acts all nice and all that, yet keeps shittalking them behind their back. I couldnt help myself on calling him out on that type of behaviour. Not even neccessairly that it bothers me that much, everyone is guilty of something like this to some extend. But it just felt extremely respectless so i had to call it out.

This is just one of the examples of me calling out different people, and so far i havent faced any real backlash. I know though that if i keep doing this to much its just gonna cause some unneccessairy shit that i cant be bothered with, so i should probs keep this trait that these subs are developing a bit in check.

This type of recon has been quite common to me on ZP. Where it takes a trait the subs are developing, and pushes them to its extremes. making me have to keep it in check untill i found a middle ground that is most beneficial to me.
Previously for instance, with love bomb, that sub started pushing my pride through the roof. That on its own isnt a bad thing, but it did manifest as me becoming a bit to arrogant.

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#31

The same has been happening with my sociality btw. Ive very much been overly social and talkative. Wich is very much opposed to how i normally am, wich is a bit more introverted.
I dont dislike this change at all, ive been enjoying the heck out of it. but at times i should definitely keep this in check. You dont have to be super social all the time.

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#32

Today i went to college completely unprepared to a math subject. It was completely new to me, yet after a few questions i completely picked it up with ease. Me actually finding some part of math interesting enough to pick it up that easily, i bet stark has something to do with that lmfao.

Also feeling great in general, socially people are being incredibly kind at all times. It all feels very effortless, any remnant of social anxiety has completely dissappeared. I wasnt that impressed with Qv2, but stark ZP is extremely impressive with how fast and how potent it is. Loving it!

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#33

i like how you asked me a question, and then experience it yourself later on :joy:
but yes, its Stark.
it’s also i’ve started getting interested in so many new subjects and a new genre of magic (new as in: never performed anything like it).

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#34

I just got rejected from the climbing frat sadly. It was based on random selection and i got unlucky, pretty dissappointed about that. Next year new chances though.

Aside from that ive been actively searching for a room. Right now i live an hour and a half a way from my college… wich is really annoying considering i now have seminars daily. Getting s room rn as a student is a pain in the ass though, i cant wait to use ascension chamber when that is released to possibly give myself a bit of an extra edge.

As far as the stack goes, its still shining. Everywhere i goes i seem to be beloved, people seem to very much be sticking to my words. I seem to be making friends basically everywhere i go. Stark really seems to be giving me far more of an edge than i expected too. Like i said previously it has made me pretty combative. In addition to that i have simply gotten more edgy in general too. Perhaos this is xoming from the fact that i just started giving less of a fuck what people really think of me and just love doing my own thing.

Chosen and stark have in general just been mixing so very smoothly. Ive been attributing a lot of results to stark, but, more likely than not, its the combination of the two thats doing a lot. The feel i get from these two subs seem to be incredibly similair in a lot of ways. Theyre like two halfs of a puzzle, fitting into each other seemlessly and creating a perfectly cohesive whole.

Im currently using the third spot in my stack as a booster spot. So far ive only been sticking to love bomb, but i might soon start alternating heartsong and LB. Heartsong is the way i see it one of the most important subs ive yet to run. I know i have quite a bit of healing to do in that dirextion, and without it id have to go through quite a few more bad relationships to really become aware of some of the issues i have. The manifestation is definitely also not something i wanna say no to. I do want to take it very slow as i dont wanna launch myself into a bunch of recon, but it is something i want to start with considering most of my personal issues seem to have already dissappeared.

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#35

I tried another personality test. This time i got ESFP. It kinda makes sense that it switches around this much, even the first time i did it, the first 3 things are litterly only a difference of about 3%. The only thing that is clearcut is that im 100% a P. An interesting thing to note though that when i did it the first tome before my stack i got a very clear “turbulent”. Meanwhile this time i suddenly got assertive. This is quite a big difference as the first time it wasnt particulairly close. I guess this may be stark and chosen changing some inner stuff that i hadnt even noticed. (Or perhaps personality tests are just complete BS lmfao).

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#36

went on a bit of a reflective journey after running a loop of heartsong. I properly realised just how big of a nuissance my relationship issues really are. When i tried to reflect on it and figure out what caused them, i got the simple image of me as a baby, feeling extremely vulnerable and… unsafe. There isnt particulairly anything weird about that, babys are extremely vulnerable with how small they are. That said i started to realise that this feeling has always been hiding under the surface. It often got covered with things like pride/depression/happyness etc etc. But this feeling has never really dissappeared. even in the moments where i had all the power in the world, deep down id still feel like a scared little child.

Im not really sure where to go from here. the way love bomb has taught me is to just accept it and move on. showing compassion towards myself and my issues. This wont neccessairly fix the issue, but this could very much open the doors to deal with it more naturally. I have a feeling that theres still a long journey ahead.

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Main Disc. Thread - Heartsong ZP
#37

Lmfao starks effect is so weird rn. I notice myself just doing things that i would normally never do. And than an hour after having made some smalltank with a random girl on the street, or whatever else, i suddenly realise “wait? Shouldnt i be too anxious to do something like that?”.

Ive been the most social ive ever been right now and it just all goes so completely naturally. I dont even think twice about it while doing it. Crazy how much subs can change you.

I have also been experiencing a lot of recon though. Like the olden days of Qv2, i really feel such a desire to switch up my stack. There are a bunch of subs i feel like i “need” to run, and i feel so impatient about it. For today i decided to run my stark custom rather that stark ZP for the simple fact that there are a bunch of feel good modules in it to ease the recon, and because i feel i really need the productivity modules too.

It wasnt the smartest idea to suddenly switch out the sub thats causing the biggest, most beneficial changes of my stack for a custom in Qv2, but im hoping that with the boosting effect of ZP the custom can cause these changes to stick + add the additional modules. If it doesnt turn out that way ill immediatly switch back.

Anyway, the results have been hella good, but the past few days have also been incredibly reconfilled. Im hoping that will pass soon.

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#38

Ive noticed something. Between my stark custom and CHOSEN. i really dont need anything elseas far as traits or external effects go. I really have become the man i want to be and im perceived the way i want to be perceived, i feel the way i want to feel. It really is just a perfect combination (shoutout to @Invictus for getting me to find this beautiful lil stack). This stack will definitely be a mainstay and i dont think ill be switching them up anytime soon.

This does leave a third spot open to be used as a booster too! my go to’s will be libertine and love bomb for when i go out. Lately ive been running a bit of heartsong too. These ones are far from essential and ill probably be switching them out quite a lot, but its nice to have this free spot to use on an as needed basis.

My main issue right now is still related to productivity adn waking up in the morning. There are a few modules in my custom that are helping with that, but ive also been using some out of the box tactics lol. Like today i planted my phone in the bathroom, with my clothes ready. This way i was forced to immediatly wake up, get out of bed and get in the shower. This isnt perfect since i dont have an alarm clock aside from my phone, but occasionally this seems to qork quite well.
As for productivity, i just started working with friends at their house. In such an environment wehre others are also working, i have so much easier time actually doing stuff and not getting distracted.
This still is far from perfect since naturally there isnt always a possibility to do this, but it definitely helps.

I dont wanna rely to much on subs for these issues though. These issues are fixable, i just need to find out wich approach best works for me.

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#39

Something intesting. I always go for a walk in nature whenever i feel like ive been sitting for too long. This usually helps clear my head, think some stuff through and clear recon. Ever since i started subs, Whenever i go for a walk im extremely introspective, thinking about everything deeply. This helps a lot in figuring out what type of recon im experiencing and thinking of some solutions to some of the problems im facing. I usually also start noticing the effects of whatever subs ive been running after the walk far more potently compared to before.

Today was different though. When i went for a walk my head was instantly completely clear. Rather than being introspective i just decided “nah fuck that lets just enjoy the moment, enjoy nature”. I was completely in aww of all the green, the lake, all the birds. I was just completely zen and enjoying myself.

I really liked this, it still seems to give the effect of enhancing my subs too. I think this may be a sign that my recon has for the most part faded and im now just left enjoying the results. Really liking this!

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#40

Very nice reading. I am starting a similar stack based on Saint’s personality recommendation.
Stark + Chosen.

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