I’m curious to know what some taking action strategies people have taken on here while using Paragon Sleep to get the best effects from it? I’m assuming going to bed on time would be one of them. Investing in black out curtains etc. Also curious to know how Paragon Sleep has worked out for people that have used it?
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This one is pretty easy. Just try to go to sleep at a reasonable hour and develop good sleep habits. See what the sub brings out, like whether you need to put your phone away a bit earlier or adjust when you fall asleep.
For example, when testing the new version, I realized that I could go to bed at 11:30 and sleep five hours and feel better than if I went to bed at 3a and slept seven hours.
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Even though I haven’t used Paragon Sleep, This is something that I have noticed the past couple months or so as well. If I were to go to bed between 10:30-11:30 I could sleep like 6 hours and be good and if I went to bed at lets say 1am and slept 8 hours I would end up feeling like shit.
Its wild on how different everyone’s circadian rhythms can be
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I’ve got some sleep thoughts in general, not specific to Paragon Sleep.
Blackout curtains are good, I use those and something to cover my eyes… I have multiple eye masks, but I found they either don’t fit well enough to actually block light, or they dry out my eyes… I’ve settled on a damp cloth over my eyes as a solution to both problems. I pair those with 33dB earplugs rated for a shooting range.
See what other things you can observe to improve your sleep… any neck pain, back pain, or other stiffness? Try a different pillow. Back pain? Try a pillow under your lower back. Stiff? Try stretching before bed… yoga is good.
Bad dreams? Check what you’re eating in the hours before bed… I had rather vivid dreams last night, and what did I have earlier in the evening? low-carb (konjac…) spaghetti, with 3 decently large squirts of Sriracha mixed into the sauce… delicious, but easily enough to affect my dreams, I’ve observed this effect multiple times.
I’ve played with different sleep supplements as well, and have settled on this stack as the best results for the fewest supplements:
3x 500mg magnesium
3x 500mg GABA
1x 10mg melatonin, sublingual
Best of luck!
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Which form of Magnesium are you using?
It’s a product called MagEnhance, it contains a blend of Magnesium L-Threonate (Magtein), Magnesium Glycinate, and Magnesium Taurate.
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Buteyko breathing (get your control pause high and never worry about sleep quality ever again. And many more things)
Ibutamoren 25-30mg before bed
Taurine 4-6 mg before bed
Cold environment (and cold shower before bed)
Early morning sunlight exposure
Everything that improves health(diet, posture, exercise, breathing)
Don’t eat 4 hours before bed
Mouth taping
Sleep on your left side
Reduce stress
Go to bed earlier
Wake up without alarm
Turn off the wifi
Grounding (don’t have to buy grounding mat, you can just use anti static wristband)
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Cold shower before bed will wake you up, as it will cause your body to warm up internally in response to the cold, and that’s a “wake up” signal for the body
Taking a warm shower will do the opposite, and will better coincide with the cool environment advice (which is accurate)
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It is easier said than done especially if you had some issues. You’re body will heal fast if you could sleep well, Paragon can do that.
It is no longer about you’re eating habits but rather the body metabolism, we are all unique. Then the bed and the weather affects everything to it.
When I travel I minimize meat, I’m much expose to pollution due to my work so I took some precautionary measure. I drink coconut water which has vitamins and minerals, fruits with fiber.
I rarely urinate during sleep, as when we are sleeping some of the body functions are turn off.
Some people finds it okay to exercise during night time, if you are at peace with you’re body then most likely you sleep better.
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Body is cooled off from cold shower and once you get out, the stress response is over and your body goes into parasympathetic state: cortisol reduces even more, etc etc
So you will fall asleep faster and will sleep better
Just compare sleep scores, 2 weeks with cold shower, 2 weeks with hot
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Exactly what I have thought lol
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Not a bad idea.
The info I gave comes from Huberman Lab’s episode on sleep
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Yeah but then to return to homeostasis, it will start heating itself up, which is a wake up signal and not a sleep signal
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i’ve always assumed a warm shower helps one sleep but over the last year i’ve noticed the opposite. and at least one maybe two docs said not to take a warm shower immediately before bed because it interferes with sleep. which seems to be matching my experience.
also in the book The Four-Hour Body by Tim Ferriss he says a 20 min ice bath before bed is like an elephant tranquilizer.
thanks for sharing man. sleep has really been an issue for me recently. i goto bed at a reasonable time and cant fall asleep. and sometimes i sleep for an hour then get back up.
admittedly my sleep cycle is fucked. i aim to sleep at midnight on weekdays (ends up being like 2 am) while on weekends i sleep b/w 3 and 5 am. if i sleep at 5 am i fall asleep pretty fast i guess b/c it’s much later than i’m awake the other 5-6 days.
not really sure how to fix this. the only thing i can think of is to not have off days on weekends and sleep at the same time? or i wonder if i have a messed up circadian rhythm where i need to be sleeping after 3 am.
for supplements i take 2 tablets of magnesium but i dont know what type or how many mg. ocasionally i’ll take melatonin. and i take medication called Lyrica. if you suggest gaba i can look into that but i believe it’s expensive. worth it if it helps of course.
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Going to bed at the same time every night is definitely important… I have a bit of stubbornness there, in that I finish working at 4:30 or so, then I usually take my daughter out to run errands (groceries, library, etc) which is something I enjoy for sure, but it’s not rest… then we get home and make dinner, then tidy up, then get the kiddo ready for bed, then I read stories, and by the time she’s asleep, it’s 9 or so… and being in bed by 11 leaves relatively little “free time” for whatever I want to do… read, watch a movie, write… etc…
so on weekends I often go to bed later, feeling like I’m “getting back” more of my free time… but then I feel worse when I wake up the next morning, and Monday’s more of a shock when I’m back to getting up at my usual time…
so…
aim to go to bed at the same time every night, whether you “have to” or not… it may take some experimentation, I’ve found that if I go to bed at 11 and read for 15 mins or so, then fall asleep, I wake up naturally a bit after 7, but if I push it much later I get less tired, and then find it harder to fall asleep, and then as a result it’s my alarm that wakes me up at 7:45 instead, which I don’t really like…
Definitely check what’s in your magnesium, melatonin is good… many people suggest minuscule amounts like 0.3mg, but I get the best results with a sublingual 10mg, and have been taking that for years now. A quick google search suggests that a common side effect of Lyrica is sleepiness, so that ought to help. GABA is good for helping you relax and reduce the time to fall asleep. I get GABA from Amazon and it’s about $20/month. “expensive” is relative, and it depends on where in the world you live as well.
I’ve tested my sleep stack for years, and that’s where I’ve settled on what works best for me with the fewest supplements. If I remove any of them, sleep onset time is increased and quality of sleep decreases.
I hope that helps!
thanks for the info! so it seems like gaba directly influences your sleep. if that’s the case i’ll try it as well. can you link me to the one you get?
I use NOW brand GABA from Amazon, should be available pretty widely, but any should do.
thanks pal! i see on amazon it’s pretty affordable actually. for some reason there’s a lot of options for this.
NOW Supplements GABA (Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid) 500mg Plus Vitamin B-6…
NOW Supplements GABA Vegetable Capsules 500mg with Vitamin B-6, 100 Count…
NOW Supplements GABA 250mg Chewable Tablets, 90 Count
NOW Supplements Gaba Pure Powder, 170g
NOW - True Calm Relaxer with Gaba Plus 90 Vegetarian Capsules
that’s just the first row, and there’s 2 pages of results. is the third option here the one you recommend, or should i look lower in the page?
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