Sub suggestions

My partner has been on Mogul since the ZP release. He says that Mogul is helping him to become organized. That’s great and all, but really eye opening considering that he is already a business owner. He must not even have the foundation covered to be getting these type of results.

Almost all of his relatives are multi millionaires. His parents and his siblings however, never achieved anything higher than middle class. His siblings are not successful people in any sense of the word. He has done better than them, but doesn’t end the limiting cycle of self sabotage. He has a genius level IQ, but his parents were very unsupportive and did a lot damage to keep him from achieving his potential.

He refuses to get therapy and I’ve tried to help him for many years since I met him when we were teens. Most of it has been useless since there is something in him that doesn’t want to succeed. He works very hard, long hours, but has nothing to show for it.

I asked him to run Emperor when this cycle is over. Does anyone have any suggestions of subs that would be better for him? He has run us into a tremendous amount of debt, and now I’m stuck with all this debt and I just cannot do this anymore. He needs to start making money and I don’t care of Emperor kicks his ass for a few weeks. He has to change. Any suggestions on what else he should run?

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Emperor, but also Rebirth, sound like good choices for him.

For you, I think Mind’s Eye. You have more control over the situation thank you might think – not just him. You want him to change, you can inspire the change in ways beyond our understanding, by visualizing him having a well-paying job. Mind’s Eye will help you shape your reality.

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Emperor alone could help, but rebirth can speed it up by making him deal with the issues he has.

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@lrw

I am thinking adding RICH to the mix.

Emperor + RICH in ZP
or
Mogul + RICH in ZP

Rebirth, Regeneration for healing as options. Since he needs money ASAP I think Emperor/Mogul + RICH.

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What those above have posted.

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If he’s got a lot of mental muck going on I bet he could just run Regen and it would have plenty of work just on whatever he’s already digging up daily anyway

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In addition to the subs suggested here, may I also suggest this book:

It is absolutely essential for anyone with a business whether it’s struggling or not, IMHO. It should be immediately followed by his other book Profit First, once the major issues have been addressed.

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For making money he may want to try Mogul, The Ecstasy of Gold, or Ascended Mogul. While Emperor is an excellent program it may be a bit broad if you want him to focus exclusively on making money.

For dealing with emotional issues he might consider Regeneration or Dragon Reborn.

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Thank you everyone for all of your great suggestions. You really have been very helpful.

He continued yesterday with his happy go lucky attitude. Smiling happily, saying “I love you”, and expecting life to go on as normal as if nothing was wrong. I tend to be optimistic and I’m not a worrier, but I felt nauseated all day about what he had done, and then to see him acting all happy was really disturbing to me.

He ended up running Emperor last night and gave up Wanted. He said that he couldn’t sleep because he kept on thinking about all the things that he can do better.

He says this morning that he feels like he has no satisfaction and that he feels like he needs to have accountability about everything he does. This is gold right here, and what I thought he was missing and needed if he ever was going to make a pronounced change in his life.

He even looks different and the way that he is carrying himself reminds me of a very successful alpha male that we know who turned himself into a business man millionaire on a blue collar salary.

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Great to hear that he is getting results,:muscle:wishing you both the best
Can you please tell if he is playing emperor zp or the QV2 ?

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Thanks @sid He’s playing ZP. I’m seeing a dramatic change in his mannerisms and behavior. The annoying daily dose of foolishness (for lack of better word) is gone. I’m seeing someone who I actually enjoy being around and who can be respected now. He feels like he needs to be excellent with every fiber of his being. He says he feels like he has to constantly do something that’s productive. He said it’s like “do, do, do, do, do, out”. Like he has to be productive until he falls asleep. He says it’s a weird feeling, but that maybe this is how he has to be, to be successful.

It’s only been day one. He should be able to make great progress if this continues.

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I didn’t read the entire thread. Who is " He"?

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My boyfriend/partner/guy? :slight_smile: Not sure who he is anymore :two_hearts:

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Not to be that guy but I think he should decide what he wants to do because you’re looking at things from a very controlling view

He’s an adult and you don’t sound like you have very much better intentions towards him than his parents did

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@lrw I can relate to your guy’s situation. I don’t have my own business but my family on either side parents or siblings have never been financially successful and I have been incredibly determined to break that cycle although unfortunately I more often than not sabotage myself.
I’m tired of being surrounded by people with such a narrow view of everything especially wealth. Always talking about being poor and broke while this weirdly disturbing hatred for wealthy people. i honestly feel that’s why I have such a difficult time when I run Mogul ZP or RICH ZP. I’m working on eliminating a lifetime of programming that is in direct conflict with what I crave more than anything

I’m tagging @SaintSovereign to get his feedback

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EoG Stage1.

I consider it mandatory for everyone.

Pre-Q version did wonders for me.

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Why for everyone?

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OK, everyone on this forum posting regularly.

We might think that we don’t have any hangups about wealth, but that’s just bullcrap.

Also the younger guys only looking to get laid would really benefit from having their life under control with money and higher goals. It would help them to meet/ attract higher quality women.

Edit: There’s nothing positive in not being wealthy.

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I get what you mean. But “Mandatory” is a strong word.

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And that’s why I chose to use it :wink:

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