Im noticing that i can be a bit passive on my current stack. What would you guys say is the best sub to really ground you and put your energy to good use on the physical? That get shit done mentality. I guess what im lookingn for is some sub to push me out of bed in the morning and get me to work on what needs to be done that day.
My first thought was emperor but that sub is a bit to moneyfocussed and dense for me. What would be better? Perhaps something like GLM or ascension?
Limitless
The Executive
Good idea! Somehow hadnt even tought about this one.
Im interested why you said limitless. I havent used it myself but in paper it seems like a far more intelligence based subs rather than grounding and getting shit done. Have you noticed some insane productivity spikes on this?
Limitless does have productivity scripting. Must also be why Limitless and The Executive was combined and made into Limitless Executive. That’s also a good option.
Aren’t you currently running Stark ZP?
You’re not getting enough productivity from it 
?
Also, sometimes the lack of productivity can stem from other issues, like the fear of failure, or the fear of missing out on something if you were to be doing something else.
In that case, I’d suggest Sanguine ZP, @GoldenTiger had a very productive the day he tested it out.
Like I always tell you, figure out the cause first, then try to analyze.
If have a strong intention , Limitless will make it even stronger. So Procrastination will reduce.
Yes
I mean, productivity is better than normal, but i still cant get out of bed before 11:00 lol. Also falling behind with every class like usual. It really feels like from a 24 hour day i only spend about 4 or 5 hours actually doing stuff.
My problem doesnt even stem from internal issues neccessairly. Its more that i lack that drive, i have a lot of trouble getting myself to do stuff unless theres a big deadline closeby. Ive always been quite lazy and completely relied on my intelligence to do stuff while doing the minimum amount of effort possible. And than at the last moment i do a shitton. Up to this point this approach has usually worked but its causing a lot of issues, especcially when there are smaller deadlines or things like that. Also with the nonschool stuff like working out consistently learning a skill i want to learn.
I think my issue is partly spending far to much time in my own head and partly just never having learned how to be consistently productive. Lack of discipline if you will.
Then Spartan.
If you lacked drive you wouldn’t be here working on being better. I’m with @Invictus on this one, there’s something here going on that’s causing this behavior.
All things I highly relate to.
I don’t think you need discipline. That sounds like a reflection of criticisms you might have gotten in childhood from authority figures who didn’t understand why there was that “laziness”. Do you like being lazy? If no, it’s not laziness.
It sounds like you don’t have a system in place for yourself. The intelligence was the coping mechanism for an inability to structure things properly or learn how to do so as a kid and you flew under the radar because you were smart enough to get by. There’s a skill deficit in a vital part of your life.
I’m gonna be honest man this sounds like ADHD issues. Have you ever been evaluated? Knowing what you’re working with really helps setting strategies that help you instead of hurt.
Youre on the money, i do have ADD. My ADHD is more making me hyperactive inside my head rather than physically though, and that makes me very much in my own head.
This definitely all sounds right too.
This all said though, in my experience ADHD meds only really worked on issues that i dont really struggle with, and made me very dull. Like even if i can get distracted easily, i have also learned myself to hyperfocus quite well so that isnt much of an issue. And the meds dint really address my being in my own head in the slightest, sometimes even making it worse. Because of this ADHD meds generally dont address any of my issues i do have and just in general arent worth it for my situation.
Thats why im still very much looking for alternate ways to fix this issue. Im hoping some subs can help me here a bit.
Totally understand. Meds are an as needed basis thing for me. There are tasks and weeks I know where stuff won’t get done at my job and that’s when I take them. I am terrible at menial things with no novelty. But I know they’re not for everyone. They help me get over the wall so to speak, they don’t do anything for focus really.
I’m in the same boat man. Exploring different avenues right now. New one I’m considering is trauma as a result of growing up with undiagnosed ADHD. Which presents itself as internalized anxiety in starting tasks as well as organizing them. So ADHD does effect executive function which is a challenge, but the real issue might be the negative emotional conditioning surrounding continual failures in the past. So there’s a natural avoidance to anything that triggers that. And consequently a compromised ability to internalize new structures due to a heightened fight or flight state. So basically stunted development that can’t be solved with more fight if that makes sense.
It’s most definitely a complex issue to solve. In your case I’d encourage you to not beat yourself up about it or impose a lot of the neurotypical platitudes we’ve been inundated with in life. If you need more discipline by all means. But having done a lot of research on ADHD most of us that struggle need less self criticism and more understanding.
Wish I could offer more help. If I find anything significant I’ll be sure to let you know.
Emperor gets me to be so much more productive on things that are not even money related. It has given me a huge nudge to do shit that must be done even if every fiber of my being does not want to. It also helps break through not wanting to do something out of fear. It also gives me the confidence to get things done. I honestly have not noticed huge results in the wealth field due to it but the productivity and responsibility is so huge.
Yes it depends where the lack of productivity is coming from, for me was the fear of failure that made me procrastinate.
As anyone who reads through my journals or just random posts sees I deal with ADHD on a daily basis. I am naturally so fucking scatterbrained, but a big part of my ADHD was I had cyclical at times debilitating depression. It would go round and round driving me and everyone around me mad and frustrated. I was so angry, hurt, lost and confused. Just look at my old journals for proof of missing Journaling days or just constant thoughts of helplessness and anxiety.
I was so completely against getting medicine because society and my family put the fear of God into me that they will screw me up and make me a drone.
Then I was finally talked into therapy by someone who is way to patient for her own good. Therapy helped me fully accept I had ADHD. My entire life I tried to ignore it, when I was scatterbrained I would say oh that’s just my add acting up acting like it was an annoying buzz in my ear.
I felt depressed for getting Cs and D
Bs in school despite trying so hard to get As. I only got As in History which I love so very much, but there’s not much market need for it. I got yelled at by my parents for my hyperfixations it absolutely drove them nuts but they thought that people with add just use that as am excuse for their behavior, even though as an ADHD person you know that’s not true.
Eventually my therapist and wife talked me into seeing a psychiatrist because I was thinking l the right things, I was using every tool at my disposal and yet I was still depressed, anxious, helpless and beyond frustrated
Quick note from a doctor: ADHD has a very bog depressive side to it because we are always running on empty for dopamine, our receptors are pretty much busted and therefore every action and thought our brain is thinking is how do I get more dopamine. We are more susceptible to addictions because of this as well.
Since our bodies cannot naturally get the right level of dopamine, it is OKAY to use something that will bring your brain to normal or happier state.
Also mental health medicine has come a long way in the last 10 years compared to before the 2000s.
When I saw the RIGHT psychiatrist, he did not give me a stimulant right away and instead opted for something else that is an antidepressant that is also used to to treat ADHD. It is not a drug that can be abused like adderall and your medical doctor could prescribe it. If you stop you are just sad for 1 or 2 days but then back to normal. He also emphasized we are trying this medicine, if it doesn’t work it doesn’t work we will try something new, gave me all of the side effects and things to watch out for. When I picked up the medication I confirmed everything with the pharmacist.
I cannot emphasize enough the transformation I took over me literally overnight. There is no way to convey how immediate this was.
I had felt happiness that I did not know was possible (still feel that way a month in) constant happiness, even when I feel down it for a blip and my body relaxes and feels happy again. It still shocks me that people can be this happy. I’m on a different plannet.
I now have boundless energy that allows me to work on my desires and not be controlled by my depression.
I realized how depressed I was, it was way worse than I could imagine. When I was in the midst of it, you think it’s manageable and not swe how much it was affecting those around you. I was like a dementor from
I can power through some of the other things because I have so much energy and enthusiasm for life. I cannot emphasize enough how much of a miserable individual I could be before this.
It seemed like my whole life led to that moment. Every single sub I ever ran clicked into place and my life is about to blast off when not even a month ago I felt doomed for life, I was just too stubborn to give up.
I have been leaning on others especially my wife for support, I am now becoming that support system for others.
I am able to learn and reframe from the past.
I am sorry for the long post but you seemed exactly on my position I was in or damn close. Society’s outlook on mental health needs to change, no one bats an eye when you take medicine if you are sick or goes fear mongering but loses its fucking mind when you take something for your mind which is so important. Our brains are everything.
I really hope this novel at least gives you another perspective or avenue that you thought was closed off
Thank you very much for sharing! Im glad youre feeling so much better now!
Ive personally also struggled with cycles of depression in the past. Its weird how they always come and go for me. Like i can stuggle very heavily with it for a few months, and than its gone for a year. Than when it comes back it suddenly feels like ive always been depressed. Strange how that works.
I havent teally felt it though for a long time now luckily. But if it does come back im also gonna heavily consider taking some antidepressants. I never really asked for ADHD meds that work as antidepressants though since i never really considered myself to really be that depressed (not since i took acid at least lol).
Your comment does make me think that if i do decide to gk with meds in the future that might be a better play compared to stimulants though, this sounds like it would help and address my issues far better, especcially from what youve described. I would need to look into it more though.
This especcially is such a great thing! I axtually created a custom in the past based on exactly that. Imo this is one of the best things one can have, bar none!
This i find such a tricky thing though. Like yeah im completely aware i have ADHD, and the issues that come with it. That said i dont want to let it define me in any way. Wether some issues come from ADHD, or something else, at the end of the day they still need to be dealt with.
Thanks for sharing your story. Was the medication bupropion by any chance?
I completely understand where you are coming from. However I have to ask you a few things. I’m only challenging because it’s what awesome people in my life have done for me. You don’t have to answer, just something to think about.
How long have you had this thinking of “I don’t want it to define me?”
Has that line of thinking really been productive?
Now what is the real reason you are afraid of it defining you? Ask why do you feel this way to yourself. After that ask yourself kindly and in a curious manner " well why is that?" Your brain will give a BS answer and then patiently ask again “well why is that?” Keep asking yourself that until you get to the root cause of why you feel this way. Then ask yourself is that root cause really worth all of this pain, struggle and suffering? This may be a very uncomfortable experience but a critical one.
Do you want to continue to struggle for every little thing in life just to wear the badge of “I don’t let ADHD to define me” only to appease others who have no fucking clue what you are going through and honestly don’t care?
My parents have unconditional love I very for me but they don’t ever want to hear of my experiences with ADHD. They flat out don’t give a damn. Why should I appease their desires to ignore something uncomfortable.
My wife on the other hand has encouraged me to seek help and is compassionate about what I go through. She doesn’t think any less of me because I say oh it was my ADHD acting up again or because life is so hard for me.
Your experiences, body chemistry, mental health, desires, actions, personality and a culmination of many things define you no one thing can.
Tyrion Lannister had one of the best quotes of all time related to this.
Final thought:
Despite wearing it like armor, I work to use my ADHD to my advantage. Hyperfixation can be real useful if aimed in the right direction.
I also work on developing tools like calendar reminders and three different ways to have to do lists to keep on top of my tasks. I also found a way to stop chasing dopamine and just let an outside source help me get it to normal levels.
Does this sound like someone who uses it as an excuse for everything?
Many things that are too long to list are caused by having ADHD is a fact backed up by science, not an excuse. It only becomes an excuse when you refuse to do anything about it.
I apologize if I am prodding too hard. Many people has to push this stubborn man and I really wish I would have listened sooner.
Ugh I would rather not say but yes. My doctor looked at all of my symptoms and prescribed the one that best fit my situation. He also made it clear if it doesn’t work oh well we can try something else. Everyone is different.
