SSX vs PS, what’s better for my case?

Questions and Comments
#1

I have a stack that’s as such:

  • Khan Black ST3
  • Daredevil
  • PS

I switched to PS from SSX last week but now I’m having doubts. You see, I’m early on in learning day game (really started this summer) and I’ve been getting some guidance. One feedback I got is that I should have a less friendly vibe and instead exude more energy in a way that would be romantic. This is what motivated me to go towards PS.

But now I am wondering if it is too early for PS and if I should instead continue to stick with SSX. I thought PS was a supercharged version of SSX, but rereading the description its capabilities are more abstract…what do you guys think?

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#2

If it’s a more masculine base you’re looking for, did you consider Primal?
@Sub.Zero has profound results seduction wise with it.

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#3

I also suggest a consideration of Primal. Primal + DD = OP

Otherwise, I’d say give SSX a cycle or three. Having a seduction mentor whisper guidance into your earpiece is invaluable.

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#4

I submitted a ticket for this . The reply was basically - every seduction title has its own approach .
So , there is nothing wrong or nothing right .

IMO - do the approaches and see which title you gel with . Nobody can choose for you .

Its good to see somebody doing DG . Cheers , am also doing it hard this summer .

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#5

Good approach.

Shift the listening schedule. Increase PS (or Primal if you replace PS with it), decrease DD.

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#6

@Fire, thanks for the advice! I’ll adjust the schedule.

Any comments on if SSX might be preferable over PS? Also, right now I don’t see why I’d do Primal instead of PS. @Phoermes

#7

My recommendation is Primal, SSX and KB, and once you’ve strong seduction patterns in place (based on your seduction experiences, and not on guessing), move from Primal and SSX to PS. It’s basically what I’m doing now running Primal and SSX. Later on, I’ll be moving to PS, most certainly, as becoming a master seducer is my goal.

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#8

@Sub.Zero I am curious about your experiences as someone else mentioned about them. What about Primal stands out to you? And why drop Daredevil?

Primal + SSX sounds like what PS used to be, but we know PS is a distinct product now. Anyways, I’ve gotten more intrigued about Primal in the past few hours after someone suggested it. Intuition tells me to prefer SSX over PS rn, so this answer’s satisfying in that regards…but I’ve also really been enjoying the benefits from Daredevil as I also strive to make new friends in this new area that I’ve moved to.

I’m wondering if I could make daredevil a weekly run while doing these subs, as with DD I have pretty low recon and I’ve had a history of using a fourth sub as a weekly run (it’s currently UpX).

#9

You can read them in my journal.

Daredevil is not a seduction sub, even though it can help seduce women. Primal is more aimed at that while keeping your social prowess really high. SSX refines everything that Primal does and much more.

I’m not saying Primal can replace Daredevil in that regard but it would aid you in it nicely for sure, whilst adding that masculine edge you crave. SSX also improves your social prowess and charm.

Both programs, Primal and SSX help you charm men, too, although in another manner, naturally.

#10

I ran Primal today. Felt good for a bit and now I’m in reconciliation! I’ve got to take a small break from subs.

#11

Yet for some peculiar reason some people call it a foundational sub. lol

It is foundational if you have an active social and dating/sex life. If not, you can expect lots of recon. Some recon has no obvious symptoms like the urge to masturbate or overeat, for example.

#12

And yet, I run it as a foundational sub for masculine expression.
Without a dating life or much social contact besides work and family.
Recon is minimal there, but even the recon is liberating.
The copy says it’s one of the most quintessential subs for seduction. But none of the objectives mentions it. Imo because it’s not a seduction title per se like SSX. It’s a title that builds a foundation that finaly enables seduction. Because you loose all the artificial boundaries that were placed on you. Because you incorporate the essence of what women want. Because you become the expression of what you are.
That’s why I’m running Primal. Pure authenticity.
Pure self love.

And thank you for your constant calling Primal a seduction title. Without it, I wouldn’t have found my inner motivation for running Primal so easily.

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#13

You’re welcome. I’m glad you like it, although it’s more about getting seduction results as

PRIMAL is one of the most quintessential Subliminal Club subliminals for seduction – it epitomizes the essence of dominance, status, sexuality, and an almost tangible, raw masculine charm.

Oh, all those objectives are quintessential elements of successful seduction, mate.

IMO it’s a waste to listen to it if that’s your main reason, as it’s not its main goal. The whole copy points to its main goal that is expressed here:

At the very heart of PRIMAL’s identity lies the quintessential ability to approach and consummate, weaving the final thread in the tapestry of connection.
This is why PRIMAL is saturated with an extensive array of sexual scripting, a labyrinth of strategies and nuances designed to escort you past the precipice of desire into the sanctum of COMPLETE, OVERWHELMING seduction. This scripting ensures that both the journey and its culmination are nothing short of legendary, helping you cross the finish line with unmatched prowess.

Whoever is listening to it and doesn’t align with that goal should reconsider running it since there are plenty of subs that

Depending on what you need to work on. Usually, Phoenix, Ascension and SSX is that foundation most of men need.

I’m not going to try to dissuade anyone from running Primal, it’s more about showing you a different perspective, and, perhaps, encouraging you to take a more optimal (in terms of the pace and depth of your growth) approach.

There are better titles for that. Like Ascension (you get really authentic and true to yourself on this sub) + LB.

#14

I really miss running Daredevil. That sub is so awesome for making me want to get out there. I feel like I really want it in my stack and that I shouldn’t drop it. The amount of people who do see me as an extrovert is amazing.

You know I met around a few dozen people last month while it was in my stack? (Not close friends, but that’s a different thing to work on)

I’m also starting to wonder if I’m trying to depend too much on having another subliminal fix my problem. I started to notice some more details about SSX that could make it good enough. Let me share more details about the feedback I had received about my skills a bit later and think about whether my current stack is it.

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#15

Yeah, the combo DD and SSX is awesome. I’ve tried it once.

We all need to remember that picking subs upon how they affect us is far more important than the sales copies and objectives. Ultimately, it’s about working on our current patterns and not so much about achieving the objectives. The objectives serve as a navigation tool only.

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#16

Yea…I was getting swayed heavily by those copies and objectives which is what started this whole discussion.

And now, thanks to my mistake I am planning to take five days off from subs -_- (though I should have already planned a break)

#17

Don’t be. Ever. The objectives give us a general idea on what we can expect of the sub yet everyone is different, has different patterns to work on (remove, reshape and instill certain patterns). On top of that, we’re all in different life circumstances and the objectives should help us decide whether the sub is suitable to adapt to those circumstances and make the most of them.

From what you described as your circumstances and patterns you want to work on, it seems to me that KB3+PS+DD is your best bet, unless you didn’t listen to those people who suggest you should be more masculine and you wanted to work on eliminating those patterns that hinder your seduction and instill those which will constitute your seduction blueprint, in this case you would go with SSX, which I personally recommend to you, given what you said. Fuck other people’s opinions, it’s about your success in the realm of seduction.

I naturally attract women I like since I’m natural with the “innocence vibe”, I dress up like a dandy and I know how to flatter women and I do it sincerely. That’s a killer.

Primal is really a sub for someone who wants to take the game to a whole new level where sex and seduction have no limits.

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#18

Do you have experience with wanted black?

#19

I ran it and didn’t get much with it as far as interactions go. I’m working on being much more active than passive, so WB isn’t a good fit now.

#20

It seems you’re suggesting:

  • KB ST3
  • SSX
  • DD

Where I can adjust listening times to favor SSX over DD. I can work with this stack.

Update: I really wish I just stuck to this instead of sub-hopping in the last 10 days to try and get ahead of my current challenges, instead of doing the conscious actions and effort to work on them. This current off-day I’m having and feeling really makes me feel it. It’s been a while since I’ve felt like this (and I while since I could identify recon of this level). :frowning:

Another update: This feeling is so annoying to me. How can I get out of this funk? @Forum_Ambassadors. I am amazed by how much of a loser I feel like right now. I can’t believe me in this moment is the same person who went out and talked to dozens of new people in the last month. “Can I really succeed?” is what I’m thinking, even though I know it’s the recon talking.

I really thought Primal was more foundational like SSX because that’s how they were back before rewrites (Primal and SSX being light titles while PS was the sum of both), but I’m getting humbled right now