Sex Mastery Q vs Diamond Ultima, Paradox Of Choice, Premature Ejaculation

[Billions]

I wanted to make this post to revitalize an old thread posted by @Flacko417…

He asks, for Premature Ejaculation, is it better to listen to SMX or Diamond Ultima. Because he was talking about making a custom, everyone’s recommendation was both. But that made me think about it… which one is actually better suited to the task? Because “both” can be another way of saying “we don’t know.”

So let me rephrase the question…

What are the similarities between SMX Q and Diamond Ultima? Also, what are the differences? At the end of the day, what type of person/problem would be better suited towards SMX and what type of person/problem would be better suited to Diamond Ultima?

Reading the sales page, I think that these subs are way too similar sounding and need to be differentiated way more.

Wanted to open this up to the community as it’s an interesting question that I haven’t seen clearly answered yet.

You’re only able to choose ONE. Which do you choose and why? What are you deciding factors?

Here’s my post on @Flacko417 's post

@Billions

@Joa93 @raphael I’m kind of confused. if you had to choose one for premature ejaculation and having that be the reason that you don’t perform as well in bed, is it better to listen to SMX or Diamond?

Diamond…

“Diamond is a full featured aphrodisiac that focuses on the genital area and physical shifting — all toward the goal of enhancing sex for both partners. Think of Diamond as digital Viagra. Yes, it can be used by those who have issues with erectile dysfunction, low libido, desensitization from porn abuse and other issues (though you may need to run it as a major title for these reasons)”

Sex Mastery X…

" You will rapid improvements in sexual stamina and longevity, resulting in longer, more fulfilling lovemaking sessions. Sex Mastery X2 contains the same technique mastery scripting found in our other “Mastery X” programs, meaning you’ll automatically and intuitively pick up on sexual techniques that enhance pleasure for both you and your partner and be able to recall and execute that techniques at will.

They both essentially focus on premature ejaculation as one of the selling points on the sales page.

How does one choose between the two if he’s only going to choose one? Which is stronger at what points? Which is weaker?

[Sage_Ninjistic]

Hey bud, I honestly thought this was an announcement from the guys cause of the section it’s in. Can you move this to Questions or perhaps the Lounge?

[Sage_Ninjistic]

Now!

To get involved in this delightful convo. I think I was a part of the discussion you’re referencing and if I remember right, I recommended Diamond.

I was actually thinking about it the other day, and in terms of…

@Billions

for Premature Ejaculation, is it better to listen to SMX or Diamond Ultima.

I’m actually going to switch my (theoretical) answer from them to SMX. Why?

Because of the sales page and my own recent results. I’m sure anyone that’s read through the DIAMOND thread has read one or four of my reviews. And to me, Diamond still is all that and a bag of chips.

But for longevity/stamina in bed? Sexual Mastery X all day. I even typed out the full name instead of shortening it cuz I’m that serious my guy.

The last four times I’ve had sex, I could have easily kept going, gone again right after or gone again after a very brief intermission. Sensitivity wise, on my end, I can’t say anything on Diamond vs SMX as I was porn free on Diamond and currently on a porn spree (that’s ending) as I’ve been using SMX.

Personally, anyways.

My girlfriend raves about our current sex (even though we’re going through it right now).

I didn’t report anything in my journal on these sessions but I should have.

For science.

Edit: P.S. I have never suffered from PE, so I can’t say anything on that, sorry.

[Billions]

Thank you for pointing that out! I just changed it to questions.

[Billions]

So you think SMX is better for PE. And when would you recommend that people take diamond? What does diamond ultima do better or more efficiently than smx?

@malkuth i made a new thread for this because that was an old thread

[Billions]

Ultimately the problem comes down to the fact that any main discussion thread is 1000’s of posts long and not easy to skim. I’d love a refresher on your experiences of diamond ultima in a more easily findable forum like this one.

[StateOfBeing]

You don’t use the “summarize topic” button?

[Billions]

I’ve never heard of it… but i can go check now lol

[Sage_Ninjistic]

I somehow ignored the fact that there was a whole post here.

Let’s have a look.

@Billions

What are the similarities between SMX Q and Diamond Ultima? Also, what are the differences? At the end of the day, what type of person/problem would be better suited towards SMX and what type of person/problem would be better suited to Diamond Ultima?

They’re both sexual subs and somehow sorely underreported.

One is geared towards enhancing technique and resultant pleasure, the other enhances… well…Everything else, actually.

Diamond got my mini Ninji fuller. Shower water on me was pleasurable. Sex Mastery has had no noticeable effect on my Hood of Man or sensitivity, though, now that I type it, even after PMO multiple times, sex still somewhat feels great.

Sex Mastery (PEOPLE CORRECT ME IF IT’S ACTUALLY SEX AND SEDUCTION) has been known to make people be more relaxed and present in conversation with both males and females.

I’ll edit and add whatever comes to me.

[StateOfBeing]

This is for anyone else that never knew this button existed. Cuts the post down from 200 to 43

[Trader]

@Sage_Ninjistic

mini Ninji

This is better than Little Bill

[Sage_Ninjistic]

One does not simply do better than “Little Bill”. That’s a classic.

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Billions

So you think SMX is better for PE. And when would you recommend that people take diamond? What does diamond ultima do better or more efficiently than smx?

@malkuth i made a new thread for this because that was an old thread

Yes, so Diamond to me is better for performance (harder erections and so on). I think that’s its intent (I mean, c’mon. Diamond.)

[Sage_Ninjistic]

I’m pretty sure there’s overlap between the two in terms of performance benefits.

[Leandros]

I put both in a custom with Libertine

Problem solved

[Sage_Ninjistic]

I’m not sure why I didn’t recommend this, but submit a support ticket @Billions, and let us know what you hear

[friday]

From experience, definitely Sex Mastery Q.

Diamond even though it has scripting against premature ejeaculation (confirmed by Saint Sovereign) has a tendency to make you shoot your load either way haha, especially if PE is a concern you do not want that extra sensitivity.