Seeking advice for progression/stack

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#1

Greetings everyone!

This is my first post here and I’ve come to seek advice from you guys.
Here is my situation: I am likely coming out of a long term relationship and am currently isolated and will remain so for the next 10-12 months (until I will get accepted in a Master’s degree program abroad).

I want to make the most out of this time that I am spending alone.
I know what my issues are and what I want to see changed.
I got into a relationship that started off really nice and but eventually devolved into a provider sort of of relationship that was heading for a marriage that would have likely been sexless.
I am seeking the opposite of that.
I have a ton of emotional trauma/insecurity/feelings of inferiority/negative self-talk to work through and many beliefs that work against me in seduction and in society. Fitness wise I have sorted things out(I am deep into calisthenics now that I no longer have access to a gym). But I want to get to the point where I carry myself confidently and fearlessly, and just approach any woman that catches my interest and get things done without procrastination and hesitation. I was one of the early buyers of [another company’s product] but that did not work out for me. While I do not wish to blame the product, I am certain that I have much negative conditioning in my mind that holds me back from manifesting the masculine life I want.
So to cut things short, I am interested in giving subliminal club a try and have the time and money to spare.
I am not interested in becoming a rich guy(I do not want to be valued for money or security), I just seek inner confidence and fun sex with no strings attached.
Looking at the shop, the multistage version of Khan caught my eyes, as well as Dragon Reborn. My intuitive thinking tells me that it might be a good idea to run Dragon Reborn first and then Khan multiple times. Is there a known order which would ease one into them, or is it a better idea to just focus on a multistage program like Khan from the get go and run it 2-3 times in a row? What is the difference between ZP and Refresh? Are there other products in the shop that would align with my goals?

Thanks in advance!

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#2

Welcome here to our magnificent world.
You can look here under the Stacking Ideas section.

Probably the first one would be the best one for a start.

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#3

Thanks Conan for the link, but it is not specific enough for what I am trying to find out.

It seems clear to me that I eventually want to run Wanted Black, but that I should probably stick to Khan for this year.

From browsing the threads around here, it seems like a good idea to stick to Khan Stage 1+2 for quite some time, maybe the whole year? As stage 3 and 4 lead towards action, which won’t be possible due to my isolated location. Has somebody done a whole year with just Khan Stage 1 and would that be adviseable?

I am into fitness and also learning languages/math most of the day, so it seems to me that Limitless and Spartan might go well with the Khan journey? I’ve read that either of them also help with the “recon” thingy that is mentioned on these forums. What about Elixir?

Last question: What is the difference between Khan Black and Khan Multistage? The former also has stages. Would one of them be preferable as a first sub?

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#4

Khan and Khan Black are both titles for advanced users. Meaning it’s advisable to have some experience with SC subs, how you react, to get your first recon etc.
I’d look into ascension or primal for your goals.
The difference between Khan and KB is, that Khan is very broad, whereas KB is focused on healing sexuality. Both very fitting titles considering you goals, but I would start with a more beginner title.
Did you order the SC Masterclass? They have some pretty good info in there. If you don’t, I can send you the links.

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#5

Primal but khan if you have the time and willpower for a long run could give you a great transformation

#6

This was because of you, most likely. Nothing personal against you. It just always is about you. Being able to take responsibility for your life and the fact that you create your reality is the precondition to changing it, so first of all congratulations and amazing that you’re willing to go that deep into self-awareness. You already know you have things to work through and that’s already healing you.

Can you edit out the name of the provider? Just suffice to say that you used another provider. There’s a rule to not provide specific names. Why? Idk. Probably just not to spark controversy or have anyone think the site is creating false accusations against other providers. No drama here as much as possible.

Cool.

I have no idea what Refresh is… if that’s another product then again, just leave it out.

Before we get into titles, first of all, let’s challenge this a bit. Why are you going into isolation? Isolation is never healthy for extended periods of time. Periods of Monk Mode are okay if they’re specific, relevant, and have an end date, but long term isolation is extremely unhealthy most of the time. If you’re running Khan, or any title, being able to interact with people to see how you’re expressing the subs and for the subs to have “action” to work with will be most important.

Also with this isolation bit I’m a bit confused as to whether or not you plan on going out and approaching. You mentioned negative beliefs around seduction. Is that something you’re actively doing?

I’m going to recommend titles based on this sentence, exclusively. Khan is a possibility… just don’t even touch DR right now. There’s literally no point. Just don’t touch it. As far as I can see, everything that you want is achievable from Khan, if you’re willing to commit to it. It’ll be hard but you can do it.

Best title for you though is Emperor. It’s hard, which you don’t seem afraid of, but it’s not THAT hard, which is important. It’s an all in one sub, that’ll give you that confident and fearless vibe. It’ll work on productivity way better than Khan will. It has light physical shifting for your fitness goals… not that you need them, but the fact that it has some parts of the script that are going to be easy for you will make the whole listening experience easier for you.

And instead of running Khan right now, run Sex and Seduction X, with the upgraded “New Romance Experience.”

This is what Saint said about the New Wealth Experience… until there’s a new wealth experience upgrade to the other subs, the new wealth experience is a replacement for the manifestation of RICH and the healing of Ecstasy Of Gold (which is the wealth multi-stager, like Khan/Dragon Reborn)

So running the upgraded Sex and Seduction X title which is currently the ONLY title in the store that has the New Romance Experience upgrade should be your #1 priority.

Emperor + Sex & Seduction X = Confident, Fearless, Powerful, Productive, Successful, Unbeatable Mindset, Able to approach women, fantastic conversations, positive sexual beliefs, manifestation of experiences with women that make all of your seduction/women beliefs click effortlessly

Once more titles are updated to the New Romance Experience, that answer would probably change, but for the mean time, this is the vibe.

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#7

Thanks for all the feedback so far!

This was because of you, most likely. Nothing personal against you. It just always is about you. Being able to take responsibility for your life and the fact that you create your reality is the precondition to changing it, so first of all congratulations and amazing that you’re willing to go that deep into self-awareness. You already know you have things to work through and that’s already healing you.

Exactly! I don’t find it useful to blame others or a subliminal for my failures. Even if others were part of it, I would still gain more by assuming that I hold all the responsibility.
A few months ago, I began doing extensive contemplations, where I focus on one single memory or issue, and I found this pattern in my mind and past behaviour that loved to offload responsibility by playing the blame-others game. It looks childish to me now.

Can you edit out the name of the provider? Just suffice to say that you used another provider. There’s a rule to not provide specific names. Why? Idk. Probably just not to spark controversy or have anyone think the site is creating false accusations against other providers. No drama here as much as possible.

Ah, I don’t mean to create any drama. I just wanted to convey that this is not the first time I am attempting to use subliminals.

Before we get into titles, first of all, let’s challenge this a bit. Why are you going into isolation? Isolation is never healthy for extended periods of time. Periods of Monk Mode are okay if they’re specific, relevant, and have an end date, but long term isolation is extremely unhealthy most of the time. If you’re running Khan, or any title, being able to interact with people to see how you’re expressing the subs and for the subs to have “action” to work with will be most important.

Also with this isolation bit I’m a bit confused as to whether or not you plan on going out and approaching. You mentioned negative beliefs around seduction. Is that something you’re actively doing?

I have to care for someone, so this limits where I can be right now. It is for a limited time though, so in 10-12 months I should be out and about. I actually would love to go into “monkmode” for a bit, but I can’'t do that right now.

The difference between Khan and KB is, that Khan is very broad, whereas KB is focused on healing sexuality. Both very fitting titles considering you goals, but I would start with a more beginner title.
Did you order the SC Masterclass? They have some pretty good info in there. If you don’t, I can send you the links.

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve studied the sale page of each relevant sub and went through some of the journals here.

I’ve come to the conclusion that I absolutely need to avoid falling into “new shiny thing/stack” trap, and just focus on Khan Stage 1 for a good while, so I went ahead and got the multistage original Khan one, not the Black one. It is clear to me that I need an “alpha” multistage subliminal right now, and out of all the titles, the Khan series appeals the most to me. Since I have much time for it and am not in a hurry, I will likely spend many months on Stage 1. I also got Sanguine to help with Khan Stage 1, as that one also resonates the most with me, even though logically, the Spartan one is more allied with my fitness goals. But I feel confident in my fitness routine and would love to focus on overall healing and the breaking down of my beliefs and it should do good to keep my mood optimistic.

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