I am guessing Mind‘s eye ……cuz，it has been talking about it for a very long time…. 
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Just wanted to say both Emperor Daddy and Primal Romance look incredible
and a big thank you to @SaintSovereign and @Fire
Emperor Daddy I’m excited for as a potential mainstay- possible to replace ASBR or alternative until I can focus more on my own ventures.
Primal Romance to explore a very underdeveloped area of my life
Both will have to wait for a bit, but very excited about their existence and bought both of course, for the collection 
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Round 1 has ended, post battle comments welcome. Instead of focusing on who “won,” (in our eyes, only the customers win) let us know what title resonated the most with you and why.
Think in terms of creativity, of interpreting customer wishes, which copy resonates with you more and why, features in the titles that you’d like to see incorporated into others (and why), etc.
Focus on the product, not the producer. This is important, as the goal here is to refine future development.
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The six million dollar man in bed. Cures ED…will they give you a bionic thing…
I think Primal Romance was the title the catalog needed, Emperor Daddy didn’t feel necessary.
The Emperor variations need to die, create new titles around new archetypes with these characeristics rather than hanging on the coat tails of other titles.
Feels lazy even though the objectives in Emperor Daddy was needed by some of our older members.
EDIT: Also an incredibly CRINGE name to have to type.
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Both, since EmpD resonated with me as a “historical” being, meaning, it taps into my life experience and boosts those powerful characteristics of mine that made me what I am now, particularly, I’m referring to this:
It would be great if that feature was adapted in every title. Tapping into your life experiences, and whatever useful there can be in your subconscious mind, in order to boost the target characteristics. I see an immense potential in that.
For PR it’s about settling in your own psychology, embracing it with your whole being. That really helps you align with your ZP a lot. Particularly this:
What I like about both titles is that they tap into your natural energy, elevating it. That’s really helpful in terms of executing the scripting I believe.
Those are the most important points to me. I may add some more later on.
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Agreeing with @Monarch here on several points. Even though I won’t be running it for the foreseeable future, I found PR’s description connects well with my modus amoris, and also it sounds like it could even be used as a spiritual title, more so than the aura based titles.
EmpD had some interesting concepts like the union of vital energy with experience, but a lot of it feels like variations on an existing theme, almost like New Emperor + runs of KB and CFW or something. And I think a new user would be more likely to click on it if it had a different name 
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That’s in the NSE. Standard part of it.
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New wealth experience is all it requires, in my opinion.
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Agreed. I don’t see this as really Fire vs Saint. It’s an SC event and the customer ultimately wins. More choices, the better.
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Both are creative but right now I probably need more from Emperor Daddy for my use case. The vitality scripting, the alpha, leadership, seduction and wisdom in my day to day.
PR is something that’s wanted and needed by many folks to feel whole. I am one of them. A happy and fulfilling romance is an essential part of what makes me happy. It wasn’t my top priority but I’d be miserable without it. Life loses its color.
I like it both. Is that ok? Hahaha…
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As for incorporating, I’d like the vitality feature to be incorporated more in other titles when it’s optimal. I found this to be true when I ran KB. Things click. What this feature aims to address is one my kriptonites. Prolonged stress levels from within and without isn’t good. Energy is like the currency for my body. If there’s more of it, there’s more I can do it. The world is my oyster once again so to speak.
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I dreamt of building pillars with KB when an older gentleman with white hair came to help me with the last one. That was definitely EmpDaddy’s influence.
I enjoy seeing the Emperor brand expand in new ways.
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I personally think that Emperor Daddy was an excellent entry and filled a much needed niche with us 40+ men (and there are a lot of us here). I do not agree that this was unneeded and hanging on the coattails of other subs. I think the triple Emperor stack holds pretty much everything a man could need or want.
As for Primal Romance I think it is excellent too, and look forwards to running it with EmpD in the future, but women, sex and romance just isn’t in my personal focus right now. Bringing real financial freedom into my life is my main focus, but when I achieve this EmpD and PR will most likely be going into my long term stack.
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In one of the updated or new releases the copy mentions experience. What if a person has nothing but negative experiences regarding something such as wealth?
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NSE always attempts to transmute negative experiences into positive wisdom. Always been a tenet of it.
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Would love to see the OG Wanted updated with the KB Vitality scripting in EmpD. Use that energy for physical shifting for attractiveness including male enhancement and height inducer.
Also the performance scripting from DIAMOND, Sex Mastery X, and Primal Nights in the PR title would be a useful addition to OG Wanted.
We can differentiate Wanted from Wanted Black by turning Wanted into a purely physical shifting and performance based title as opposed to Wanted Black being an auric and close to spiritual title.
Keep some commanalities like nonchalance and seductive hot and cold game of course along with a lighter seducer aura compared to WB.
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Only running Primal Romance in a custom right now with Heart Song. Just two days on it so far.
Too soon, to say but loving the connection with some of my friends feels deeper.
Emperor Daddy does seem like something I’d like to run since I’m 30 turning 31 in a few month’s. So my priorities seem to be leaning in that direction. Like how it affects others around you in knowing you can support take care of them.
I like the scripting of having others address you as “Daddy” or any variation that works for you. That’s from EmpD. Kinda of nice to hear and experience and kind of be like oh I’m seeing the results a bit more naturally.
Primal Romance I like the appreciation of your type of romantic partner in my case I appreciated a lady’s beauty more. Haven’t had a chance for the reality bubble to experience with anyone yet, but that’s one of the thing’s I’m looking forward to.
As to what should be incorporated in future titles, I’d be hard pressed to say “Primal Romance is a complete redefinition of how you experience love, intimacy, and connection. It pushes beyond the surface, transforming every interaction into something profound.”
That piece there spoke to me in what I’d like to see incorporated into the other one’s in the future. As to why it just seems pretty novel and applicable to other titles on changing how we define romance, wealth, art, etc.
Feel like there’s something important in changing our internal definition of certain words that hold meaning above.
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I really resonated with PRs copy. As of two loops in, I can’t quite pinpoint differences other than I am taking my time with this one. I already have the love of my life. We already talk about how great of a relationship and sex life we have.
She is a Disney girl who LOVES it so I’m excited to see how I express this sub to her.
As far as the thinking about her wishes and feelings. I struggle really hard with seeing others point of view and desiring to fulfill their needs without an angle to my own goals especially with ADHD. I noticed that I was quite resistant on the first couple of loops so I’m excited that I found a title that resonates with me, yet is a significant challenge to me emotionally that encourages growth in an area of weakness.
I appreciate that even though you were resistant to the sexual aspect of PR, that you let the community have input on that.
Also in a comment when I first asked about some adds to PR, you stated that there was no power couple type scripting, yet the title naturally leads to that just by being in tune with one another.
The thing with both these titles is that they were very distinct and different from any of the other titles. Both copies clearly demonstrated the value of artistic license that just oozes in the scripting. I hope that continues.
EDIT: I had some results immediately after posting this. Wife and I had a playful interaction and I can already feel the script at work in the energy between us. She looks more beautiful than ever.
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+1. Definitely! 100% agree.
+1.
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I actually added that after seeing it requested a few times. I was concerned with people thinking both parties had to run PR to get the “power couple” scripting, but went for it anyway.
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Very much agree with @Ravenscout. I suspect men over 40 make up a big portion of the customer base. Would love to see more subs catering to this demographic. Really like the humorous edge of Emperor Daddy.
Conceptually I find Primal Romance even more appealing. Pure romance was missing so far. What would help customer experience with the elaborate copy, evergrowing product families and corresponding designs would be a short summary of all titles in one family in comparison which capture the essence and maybe the unique aspects.
Clarity overall could improve a little, especially in the Q store as it is always expanding and changing. (e. g. a foldout for the core product sites with the whole sub description from the main store, a (very) short manual for MDFYs and Synergys, notes for the different categories (mostly advised maximum of modules), links from Focus modules to the corresponding Synergy modules, links from modules to the cores/subs they were mined from etc.)
EDIT: More module spinoffs would be grand! In the past I often put cores into customs for only 1-2 unique aspects, so putting quite a bit of scripting into it as well, that I didn’t really need. I perfectly understand that it’s a bit critical to spinoff the unique selling point on a product, on the other hand: Give us Pillow Talk from Primal Nights or Reality Bubble from Primal Seduction and probably hundreds of customs will be remade in an instance.
Totally love the reimaginings! Alchemist: Singularity as meditation sub is a great hook.
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