Season 3: Fire Versus Saint (9.2.24)

#603

I personally think that Emperor Daddy was an excellent entry and filled a much needed niche with us 40+ men (and there are a lot of us here). I do not agree that this was unneeded and hanging on the coattails of other subs. I think the triple Emperor stack holds pretty much everything a man could need or want.

As for Primal Romance I think it is excellent too, and look forwards to running it with EmpD in the future, but women, sex and romance just isn’t in my personal focus right now. Bringing real financial freedom into my life is my main focus, but when I achieve this EmpD and PR will most likely be going into my long term stack.

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#604

In one of the updated or new releases the copy mentions experience. What if a person has nothing but negative experiences regarding something such as wealth?

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#605

NSE always attempts to transmute negative experiences into positive wisdom. Always been a tenet of it.

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#606

Would love to see the OG Wanted updated with the KB Vitality scripting in EmpD. Use that energy for physical shifting for attractiveness including male enhancement and height inducer.

Also the performance scripting from DIAMOND, Sex Mastery X, and Primal Nights in the PR title would be a useful addition to OG Wanted.

We can differentiate Wanted from Wanted Black by turning Wanted into a purely physical shifting and performance based title as opposed to Wanted Black being an auric and close to spiritual title.

Keep some commanalities like nonchalance and seductive hot and cold game of course along with a lighter seducer aura compared to WB.

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#607

Only running Primal Romance in a custom right now with Heart Song. Just two days on it so far.

Too soon, to say but loving the connection with some of my friends feels deeper.

Emperor Daddy does seem like something I’d like to run since I’m 30 turning 31 in a few month’s. So my priorities seem to be leaning in that direction. Like how it affects others around you in knowing you can support take care of them.

I like the scripting of having others address you as “Daddy” or any variation that works for you. That’s from EmpD. Kinda of nice to hear and experience and kind of be like oh I’m seeing the results a bit more naturally.

Primal Romance I like the appreciation of your type of romantic partner in my case I appreciated a lady’s beauty more. Haven’t had a chance for the reality bubble to experience with anyone yet, but that’s one of the thing’s I’m looking forward to.

As to what should be incorporated in future titles, I’d be hard pressed to say “Primal Romance is a complete redefinition of how you experience love, intimacy, and connection. It pushes beyond the surface, transforming every interaction into something profound.”

That piece there spoke to me in what I’d like to see incorporated into the other one’s in the future. As to why it just seems pretty novel and applicable to other titles on changing how we define romance, wealth, art, etc.

Feel like there’s something important in changing our internal definition of certain words that hold meaning above.

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#608

I really resonated with PRs copy. As of two loops in, I can’t quite pinpoint differences other than I am taking my time with this one. I already have the love of my life. We already talk about how great of a relationship and sex life we have.

She is a Disney girl who LOVES it so I’m excited to see how I express this sub to her.

As far as the thinking about her wishes and feelings. I struggle really hard with seeing others point of view and desiring to fulfill their needs without an angle to my own goals especially with ADHD. I noticed that I was quite resistant on the first couple of loops so I’m excited that I found a title that resonates with me, yet is a significant challenge to me emotionally that encourages growth in an area of weakness.

I appreciate that even though you were resistant to the sexual aspect of PR, that you let the community have input on that.

Also in a comment when I first asked about some adds to PR, you stated that there was no power couple type scripting, yet the title naturally leads to that just by being in tune with one another.

The thing with both these titles is that they were very distinct and different from any of the other titles. Both copies clearly demonstrated the value of artistic license that just oozes in the scripting. I hope that continues.

EDIT: I had some results immediately after posting this. Wife and I had a playful interaction and I can already feel the script at work in the energy between us. She looks more beautiful than ever.

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#610

+1. Definitely! 100% agree.

+1.

:snowflake:

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#611

I actually added that after seeing it requested a few times. I was concerned with people thinking both parties had to run PR to get the “power couple” scripting, but went for it anyway.

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#612

Very much agree with @Ravenscout. I suspect men over 40 make up a big portion of the customer base. Would love to see more subs catering to this demographic. Really like the humorous edge of Emperor Daddy.

Conceptually I find Primal Romance even more appealing. Pure romance was missing so far. What would help customer experience with the elaborate copy, evergrowing product families and corresponding designs would be a short summary of all titles in one family in comparison which capture the essence and maybe the unique aspects.

Clarity overall could improve a little, especially in the Q store as it is always expanding and changing. (e. g. a foldout for the core product sites with the whole sub description from the main store, a (very) short manual for MDFYs and Synergys, notes for the different categories (mostly advised maximum of modules), links from Focus modules to the corresponding Synergy modules, links from modules to the cores/subs they were mined from etc.)

EDIT: More module spinoffs would be grand! In the past I often put cores into customs for only 1-2 unique aspects, so putting quite a bit of scripting into it as well, that I didn’t really need. I perfectly understand that it’s a bit critical to spinoff the unique selling point on a product, on the other hand: Give us Pillow Talk from Primal Nights or Reality Bubble from Primal Seduction and probably hundreds of customs will be remade in an instance.

Totally love the reimaginings! Alchemist: Singularity as meditation sub is a great hook.

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#613

I have to roll with EmpD on this one, mainly because I have put in my time with the romance titles and am more focused on wealth/success at this point. I feel like the current number of romance/seduction titles current far outweighs the number of wealth titles, and EmpD was a much needed archetype to add into the mix; being well balanced, while at the same time not overly dominate and more suited for a wide variety of people seeing that it doesn’t seem to cause any workplace issues or status challenging. To people saying it’s redundant, after 4 loops now I can assure that while some of the objectives may be similar, it truly operates completely different in a way that most of the users here would probably enjoy. Anyways, both killer releases and looking forward to testing PR down the line as well after a 3-6 month wealth sprint.

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#614

Both titles are very creative, although I believe PR fills a bigger hole in the repertoire than EmpD.

Both are equally good at that!

Right now PR, I was waiting for a title that has a sexual edge, but was centered in the concept of romance and building strong emotional bonds, rather than going out hunting lol.

I would love to see this one as a Q Module and on the updated version of Sex Mastery

Improve physical intimacy with the inclusion of performance scripting from DIAMOND, Sex Mastery X, and Primal Nights.

So far I havent listen to the new titles, so I cant give feedback on that.

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#615

My vote goes to Emp D this go around. This stacked with DRG will cover a lot of ground for me over the next few months.

PR looks like an amazing title and will most likely run it down the line. Emp D lines up with my goals more so is all.

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#616

Do you feel Emperor Daddy is solid for wealth-focused goals so far?

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#617

It’s hard to say as my main focus has been landing a new roll not optimizing sales performance right now so I wouldn’t make any major changes yet. My impression as of now, is that it has a place in a wealth or sales stack, but shouldn’t be the driver. That said, with EOG and TSB, it seems to fit in very well, and be much less disruptive then something like Wanted Black or Khan, while still giving you some of the benefits that people run those titles for. Calm, relaxed authority. Positive leadership. Depth of conversation, Wisdom, Vitality, all objectives of EmpD that should be very beneficial for wealth.

It certainly doesn’t feel or run like a lot of the other romance titles but again my stack is mainly geared towards wealth. Pretty early for me to tell until I start having more on call metrics to judge it, but as things stand right now the only other archetype for sales I would place above it is probably HOM. It feels much less serious and intense then Stark Black, and has more of an emphasis on social skills, and charisma, rather then inovation and fame, dominance. I would say you could go with either one though, depends what fits your sales style better. At the very least, it feels great to be able to step away from the seriousness/intensity of StarkBlack, being able to enjoy life while still be career driven and focused. I’ve also really enjoyed the maturity scripting, as I feel more focused on my goals and improving my life style, then going out and talking to girls which always tanks my performance.

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#618

Hi Guru are you performing eye exercises ? i can share some of them if you are not.

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#619

It’s okay, my friend. Am doing fine.

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#620

I purchased Emperor Daddy and ran a thirty second loop

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#621

That’s the Open Parenthesis, the “(”.

Now add the Close Parenthesis, the “)”.

Come up with three doable actions, however big or small, that you can do today that will feed your inspiration, motivation, or sense of movement in the direction of this program.

The action might just be

  • Write a list of possible actions.

or it could be

  • Call [X] to say hi and continue our interesting discussion about our creative ideas
  • Read a paragraph from that book that was giving me useful information or inspiration
  • Shine my shoes

whatever it is you want to do.

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#622

For me, it’s clearly PR.
EmpD sounds good as well, but not for my current situation.

PR sounds perfect for reigniting a burdened relationship. Reigniting romance, deeper connection and the sexual edge. What could you want more if you want the fire back.

It’s a nice in-between Heartsong and seduction.
You don’t have to waste processing power for manifestation or healing (though wasting is the wrong term when it comes to healing).

For me it filled an open gap. Also I like it pretty much how open you were about the title, how you interacted with the community and cared for what we want. And also it wasn’t part of your plans, originally, you added what the (communicating part of the) customer base desired.

It’s something I’d like to see more from fire as well. Although it seems like I’m more team Saint in the first two rounds, I’d guess those who’d love to run AASB would love to be integrated more into production.

I hadn’t given much thought to this one, but rather than integrating parts in updates and new titles, I’d love to see a few modules for q-store mined from PR. Like the deep connections, the romance and fun part, etc.

Btw, a nice to have add on for the description would be a section describing the modules origin and where they were integrated later.

Example

Bliss of Romance

[Sales copy]
Category: Romance and Sex
Mined From: Primal Romance
Part of: New Heartsong

This would allow to more easily plan a custom and to avoid redundancies.

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#623

I’m probably not the right person to vote on this, because the way I handle subs lately is to expose myself to the scripting so the SubC mind absorbs it and takes it on. Allowing all my scripting exposure to gel into a cohesive whole that I can make use of as needed/in the moment.

Finding more and more lately that repeat listening to titles seems to kickstart them fast like Ultimas used to do.

Saying all that, I definitely will be doing 3X of both PR and ED. Both sound amazing to me for different reasons.

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