Season 3: Fire Versus Saint (9.2.24)

Yes its true results take longer with more titles,but im also in this for the long run,its a long term custom so i can just focus on work without worrying about switching subliminals or getting fomo when a new title drops.

Plus you will still get all the results anyway.

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I would say with less focused action. If you run more titles yet helping your intelligence (mind) focus on certain action and its outcome, at the same time helping you overcome subjective limitations, you would be more than okay.

It’s not like taking too many pills but choosing the right toolbox.

Subs are no magic pills but tools to help you do THE WORK. Always choose the toolbox you can make most of, doing what you need to do, and helping you bridge the “mental” gaps (missing links) towards your desired outcome.

Do what you must and become what you must with what there is at your disposal.

:snowflake:

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I hope a new year’s miracle happens where it comes out next week or before mid-January :sunglasses:

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[Disclaimer 1: Never have been part of a test group, no idea how test groups are structured @ SC.
Disclaimer 2: I’m running AoH as my 4th sub right now.]

Not sure a test group in a customer setting would make sense tbh. To get proper data, you would need control groups, @AnswerGroup would’ve to set the subs to run, for how long, in what order, taking into account how long a participant have already been listening to what before, trying to measure results etc. Personally speaking, I wouldn’t want to run subs like that. Totally get why @SaintSovereign is jealous of us, as we just get to play as we like with the subs or as long as they need to fully unfold their results.

Another problem would be complexity of instructions. You would have to take into account how dense a title is, e. g. 4 Stage4 subs probably shouldn’t be okay, light/heavy titles/Artisan/customs, how long a customer has already listened to subs (counting listening days and listening time) etc.

Easier solution could be expanding on the AC concept for a 4th title, AoH feels comparable light and easy, MDFY: Now customs could probably fall into this category.

@Lion

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I think these are very good ideas for running a light title as the 4th title in the stack. Somewhat like how we used to run Ultimas back in Q-tech days as the 4th title in the stack.

Maybe we can categorise which of the titles in the main store will qualify as a booster or “ZP Ultima” provided we run it as a microloop.

EDIT: ran UWX for 30s yesterday night and I feel I can express myself much better both in speech and writing today.

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Yup. Same reason I never joined an official test group.

Here’s the 12,000 posts thread from when Zero Point Technology was tested publicly.

Enjoy.

:wink:

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Free the 4th slot! Join the Rebellion! NOW :wink:

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Whether more titles take more time to produce results or not depends on the titles themselves and your actions. You’d be splitting your mental resources if you ran three titles with little or no overlap. If you take no action, your ass would end up in reconciliation.

Here is an example. If you run ASBR + RICH + EOG, that would be three money-making subs. If you consistently and relentlessly take focused money-making actions, you’d be creating avenues for the subs to manifest powerful results because you’d be focused on one goal: making money. All your mental resources would be working towards that. The subs would cover different aspects of the goal and synergize powerfully. Alignment of the goals, subs, and actions is a beautiful thing.

Similarly, if your goal is status and leadership and you run Emperor Daddy + Chosen + GLM, and if you’re out there interacting with people and also studying books on leadership, the subs would have an opportunity to shine.

Personally, I stopped running 3 subs a long time ago because I figured there’s nothing I can do with three subs that I can’t do with two carefully chosen subs. I also like to prioritize my goals and attack them with two subs. Sometimes I only run one. When I feel like I’ve made enough progress in one area or on one goal, I move on to the next one and I might choose different subs. Once again, alignment is a beautiful thing.

I really have no patience for moving at a snail’s pace by splitting my precious mental resources three ways and getting nothing done. My goals are too important and subs are just tools.

If you’ve ever trained in martial arts, you’ll probably understand why it’s infinitely better to fight holding one knife than holding two. Oftentimes, less is more.

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Haha! Free tbe 4th slot from the Cage.

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The exact reasons why I’m am sticking with one sub

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As much as I’d like to have a 4th Slot Liberation Researcher Projekt Badge, I’m still not at a point where I can commit to any fixed times or stacks, risking to be in the blind group.
Once I have a good enough income (local average would be enough already), I’d be in, but not as long as I’m struggling.

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The exact same reason why I’m sticking with one goal: Finding and Eliminating the one obstacle that stops me from working.

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That’s okay. Am sure there will be many takers to test this out.

Even I am not going to test this now. Am currently in a place that needs more focus.

Ironically literally my exact same goal although I consider it being stuck in place

Is that Khan?

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I'm doing it as well. Yesterday I had loops from 6 subs. No recon as of yet. Perhaps a slight irritation, but probably not stronger than my normal.
  • EoG1 8:00
  • AoH 8:00
  • Phoenix 3:00
  • Ascendet Love 3:00
  • DRLD 1:00
  • ME 1:00
  • PZzzz 0:20

I’m usually running microloops of three subs, only I’m in washout now, so I decided to go with a bang, so to speak.


Edit: Forgot a minute of ME

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Yes it is

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1 sub at a time is great
I’m cheating as it’s 1 short custom

“TKO” 11/15/24 ZPv2 MAX

01 Fortune’s Favorite
02 Free Pass
03 Godlike Masculinity (Module)
04 Mosaic
05 One Scent
06 Stark Core
07 Synergy: Perfect Manifestation
08 Synergy: The Golden One
09 Untouchable
10 WANTED Core

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That looks similar to the type of experiments I run. Although what I’ve been focusing on recently has been how the higher states of consciousness aid in processing, as well as especially the witness state without reacting. The sub run is kind of like dropping a stone into an already muddy pond, and then that witness or witness plus as close as you can get to unity is like a strange attractor to organise all that stuff.

Sadly I’m not as far along with that as I would like to be, because us unemployed folks still have obligations we need to deal with, can’t go sitting around in meditation all day long. Even so, the level of continued mental coherence is the bottleneck, which is what in other threads has been simplified as flow factor.

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Well, there may be delays. Like 25,000 other companies, we got caught up in the sudden and overnight closure of Bench Accounting services… four days before books are set to close. This means that we have to find a new accounting service and reconcile an entire year of tax documents for multiple properties. I should’ve seen the writing on the wall when Bain Capital became the main VC (Mitt Romney).

So, yeah. We’ll be fine, as we have colleagues that can do this by hand in Quickbooks, but it’s still a really annoying thing to deal with before New Years.

Stay tuned.

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