Season 2: NFTW (which one are you?) [11.11.23]

[Prioritas]

Run it for 3 months before you swap off. Give it time to work.

[Iceman]

Very interesting, that’s always been my sub.

Am on khan these days though

[Sungaze]

@Parsifal

Maybe you just didn’t notice them consciously.

Yeah that’s probably the case

[Sub.Zero]

I’ve noticed that each sub in my stack (TWTP, Phoenix, and Primal) needed around one month to manifest the whole scope of the results and another month to reach the “optimal depth.” I’m going to see what the third month brings but as of now TWTP, I’ve been listening to for over two months, seems to be focused on ingraininig that scope and depth of the results into the deeper levels of my subconscious mind.

[James]

I’m curious about the stack you mentioned but replace Primal with Khan.

[Prioritas]

Why not run Index Gate in your stack instead of Phoenix?

Total Breakdown is already healing you, and Index Gate will move you forward towards your goal of becoming a programmer.

[James]

I was just thinking that ironically enough.

[Doc]

Is there still a primer in majors/customs?

And if i have a custom with more than 3 cores would it be better to listen 7min loops or are 3/5mins ok or 3:30/5:30 if there is still a primer?

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[Lion]

@Doc

Is there still a primer in majors/customs?

Yes there is.

@Doc

And if i have a custom with more than 3 cores would it be better to listen 7min loops or are 3/5mins ok or 3:30/5:30 if there is still a primer?

It doesn’t exactly work that way. We don’t know the length of the primer or where the whole script ends.

You can still start with 30 seconds or 3 minute microloops whether the custom has 2 or 3 Cores. And then increase the listening time gradually based on how much reconciliation you are experiencing and your results.

Also, please start a separate thread for questions like these. Will help avoid derailing the thread. Thank you .

[Prioritas]

@Lion

@Doc

Is there still a primer in majors/customs?

Yes there is.

I think I remember Saint saying they removed the whole primer with ZPv2

[Lion]

@Prioritas

I think I remember Saint saying they removed the whole primer with ZPv2

Hmm. Why does that sound familiar? Will ask him.

[Malkuth]

@Prioritas

I think I remember Saint saying they removed the whole primer with ZPv2

Hmm…

That’s true. Somehow, at that time, the Primer was removed from the programs and then morphed to become Ascension Chamber, right? I was not quite keeping that history straight, and so I deferred responding to this question.

But I think that sounds right to me.

Anyway, for all practical purposes @Lion’s response is still right, because, primer or not, his instructions for recommended listening approach are accurate.

[Malkuth]

@Prioritas

I think I remember Saint saying they removed the whole primer with ZPv2

Here it is:

Season 1: Silence! The King Speaks. [5.16.23]

There is only minimal primer remaining in any build, and was refashioned into a standalone title: Ascension Chamber. The primer was fantastic (those who have run AsC can attest), but it added A LOT of processing to each title. By keeping only what was necessary, people’s results improved because they weren’t having recon against the scripting that was in the primer.

[Lion]

Thank you, @Malkuth. Minimal primer is the answer so there is still a primer.

[Malkuth]

@Lion

Thank you, @Malkuth. Minimal primer is the answer so there is still a primer.

Reminds me of what they used to say on the Decoder Ring Theatre podcast.

It was something like,

A: “And you know what they call barely winning?”
B: “What?”
A: “Winning.”

[Lion]

@Malkuth

A: “And you know what they call barely winning?”
B: “What?”
A: “Winning.”

Hahaha!

[Sage_Ninjistic]

@Iceman

I would say overall, not context specific.

@Prioritas

In that case, Emperor.

What came to mind for me is Hero Origins.

[Sungaze]

@Parsifal

Maybe you just didn’t notice them consciously.
I listened to subs for quite some time consciously without noticing them. I even asked in here if they added the bird sounds only to being told that they were there all the time.
Listen with the intention to find them.

It was low volume actually…

@SaintSovereign @Fire can you please confirm this?
Volume should be high enough to ear the birds? Are there any other clues to know that volume is enough?

[Fire]

@Sungaze

@SaintSovereign @Fire can you please confirm this?
Volume should be high enough to ear the birds? Are there any other clues to know that volume is enough?

You guys are overthinking it. Just relax and listen to a comfortable for you volume.

[TheGreenMan]

@SaintSovereign

What no one is going to expect is what we’ve done with Love Bomb.

Any idea when it will drop? Would love to try NLoE in a custum.