SargeMaximus: Next Level (Primal Seduction + Executive + Paragon)

That’s the plan, thanks.

Fuck, no more supplements for me. Feeling wonky. Really hot. I’m thinking it’s the biotin. Gonna try sticking to food for the next little while. In other news, messaged that girl to see if we still on for tomorrow, no reply as of yet.

Girl got back to me. We’re on for tomorrow morning. Also, another girl online only this one is acting so out of the ordinary it has to be a manifestation or a prank. She’s been talking to me as if we were lovers long ago and we already set up a fuck date for Thursday night but it’s so Incredulous I can hardly believe it.

If we end up fucking I will post the convo with her pic but as it stands it just seems too good to be true. But if this is my newly manifested paradigm (which would include fucking this girl of course) then this is definitely more like it :slight_smile:

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enjoying your journal @SargeMaximus

keep rocking it! I think more and more good things will kick in over time :slight_smile:

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Thanks brother! I have noticed these manifestations seem to appear then evaporate and then appear stronger, then evaporate so I’m not counting anything till after I’ve had sex with these girls, but some of this shit is insane already.

This girl is asking me how I felt when I saw her profile. As if I had sex with her before and we were reconnecting it’s eerie.

Here I’ll post a pic one second

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Here. Like wtf it’s insane

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As I suspected, this girl vanished. Either she blocked me, was reported by someone, or she hid her profile. Either way, I knew it was too good to be true. Seems to be how these subs go. Just teasing

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Sarge i know you are relentless and well driven on your quest i respect that. Just be persistent and keep listening you should see tangible results overtime.

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Thanks man. I know things will improve over time. I just can’t believe how crazy some of this shit is already becoming. Like that girl from yesterday. Talk about a manifestation. I bet she just realized I wasn’t who she thought I was and blocked me. It was so strange but gives me hope for the future. Just hopefully the girls won’t think I’m someone else :stuck_out_tongue:

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Just left that girls house. Several blow jobs and I came as well but whenever I put the condom on to go penetrate, I went soft despite being fully hard both attempts. So that’s probably the only time I’ll see her unless she’s very understanding.

I just wish I didn’t have such ED and PE issues. Sex is so complicated because of it.

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Have you tried using different condoms? I say this because some of them have certain properties/additives to make you last longer and in my experience, they did to me what you said in that quote.

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Shit I didn’t know. But these are the same kind I used with my ex and never had a problem before

I think it’s a combination of not being particularly attracted to her and not having eaten yet. Although it’s strange because some days extreme hunger amplifies my boners

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Went shopping for my frozen squid rings. 3 different stores and none anywhere to be found. I swear as soon as I find a golden nugget of a food, the stores take them off the shelves. This has happened consistently to me.

As an aside: hot girls are everywhere but my head is telling me that even if I got a girl like that interested in me, my damn dick wouldn’t work just like today. Hoping paragon fixes the physical (if any) and hoping PS fixes all the psychological stuff

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Are you using Paragon for any other health issues? If not use Diamond Ultima. That will fix the ED.

Yes I’m hoping paragon can help with my food allergies and help heal my scars from when I had my appendix removed in February

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This is probably reconciliation, but I appreciate your approach to making sure you’re being healthy. Might wanna cut back on the loops a bit, or take a few rest days.

Back in my bachelor / hedonism days, I noticed this too. I came to two conclusions: one, if I were sleeping with a lot of younger women, the copulins from those encounters tended to run women off, almost as if they were doing it subconsciously. Two, depending on the time of the month, I had better success with bedding multiple women. Take a look at your calendar, see if the latter applies. When they’re ovulating, I had much more success than when they weren’t.

If he wants to watch porn, let him watch porn. I do not consume porn at all, but that’s because I became horribly addicted to it (back in like, 2013). I was also going through an incredibly rough period in my life, and I had cut myself off to the world. I replaced actual human interaction with porn. For those reasons, I have wiped it out of my life. I’d still advise avoiding porn, but if it’s not something you wish to do, then don’t.

It’s not a good result, but it’s a result. Here’s the thing – we create our subs much differently than other producers. Rather than trying to force a result, we gently challenge your subconscious through various techniques. In the most simplified example, if I ask you, “how do you constantly manage to meet and sleep with these Instagram model tier women,” you will probably respond with a logical answer of “I don’t.”

What if I asked, “why aren’t you able to constantly meet and sleep with Instagram model tier women?”

Much different response. So, what if I followed up with, “well, how do you plan on overcoming these issues?” Again, different response. Now you’re being led toward the path of success, not by force, but through a real dialogue with yourself. So, you have to ask yourself, why would a subliminal that’s written in this way cause a reverse reaction of pushing women away?

I’m not blaming you at all, because I believe this is a legitimate “result” that you’re observing. It just makes me wonder if you have a deeper issue with women that’s causing this to occur when you run a subliminal. Think about it – when you’re going solo (with no subs), you seem to do okay. But, as soon as you begin to run a title to accelerate your results, things tend to go this way. Is it the fact that the subliminal’s attempt to accelerate your results triggers something deep within (that maybe you don’t even want to face), causing these reactions?

Again, it’s not blame. It’s just something to consider. After my life fell apart that time, I had no desire whatsoever to meet women because I didn’t trust them after what happened. Thing is, at the time, I had no idea that this deep seated disdain existed. It was only after I began to truly delve into my psyche that I realized what was happening. I had a lot of really good, honest women try to date me and I’d just push them away somehow. Once I began to recognize what was going on, I was able to counteract this and was ready to date again.

Looking at your history here and elsewhere, I actually realized something about you – and perhaps I’m wrong, but here’s my assessment. I think we’re similar in a way, in that we both have the ability to see beyond “conventional knowledge,” platitudes and even the knowledge that’s being passed around as “red pill,” and we see these things so uniquely that it’s hard to actually explain it to people. This is an issue I’ve encountered at EVERY job I’ve ever had. When I had a manager that would just stand back and let me do my thing, I’d pull off some amazing stuff. When I had one that would micromanage, I’d end up getting fired because it was hard to convince them of anything. I think you also see things differently, but everyone jumps on you so fast that you get frustrated, and you’re still having issues articulating things.

I remember when you were once posting something about getting better results when you “hated people,” or something like that. And everyone was jumping on you, but what I perceived is that you were putting yourself in a persistent state of mind where you’d end up consciously changing your energetic aura (and body language) to that of someone with higher value. All people were seeing was that you “hated” someone and jumped on you, when there might actually be some truth to what you were perceiving.

I say this not to critique you, but to challenge a few notions. Perhaps, instead of starting with the seduction stack, you should’ve considered something like Mind’s Eye (to develop visualization skills) and Limitless (to develop your ability to mentally conceptualize and articulate ideas). That way, when it’s time to sit down and evaluate these results, things are much clearer.

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Thank you @SaintSovereign for taking the time to delve into these issues with me. I have a few thoughts thanks to your insight:

I’ve only been doing 1 loop a day. Are you saying I do less than that? Maybe I should take the week off and start again next monday as I was thinking.

This is amazing info, thank you. What can I do to keep from driving women off if it’s the copulins? Just checked my health app, mostly the sex I’ve had in the last few months has happened within the last half of the month. Not sure if that’s significant.

Thanks. I get it, it’s all the rage for most forum peeps. I just see it as my vice. I don’t drink, smoke, or do drugs. I watch porn. Oh well.

I do have a deeper issue with women and it’s one I think I am aware enough about to have it work for me. I pretty much owned who I am, flaws and all, and this is what got me results. I wonder if the subliminal is attempting to change me rather than help me be the best version of me.

Shit yes! This is exactly what I’m talking about or rather, you nailed it on the head. I do see things on a wider, almost timeless “meta” framework. The old adage “there’s more than one way to skin a cat” applies but so does a lot of things. Where to begin?

It’s definitely true I need to be free to make my own choices. I thrive on being myself, even if that means I do something the same as someone else, if I came up with the idea, it has more merit to me, and it “feels” better and seems to work more effectively. I think you probably were around when I mentioned how the only way I can get sales is to be genuine. Funny thing is I still follow a strict script and framework but it’s all a script and framework that I developed using what I know.

Same with my success with women: I used what I knew to work and through a lot of trial and error, developed a “genuine” way that works for me. I do theorize that the more close to my central self I am without apology, the better my results with women will become. This is kind of what I hope to accomplish. Not learning how to seduce women so much as freeing myself to seduce the way I do more effectively if that makes sense.

I do feel like PS is more of a road with guardrails. I think I need an offroad vehical, not a road. I hope that analogy makes sense.

No disrespect, these subs are amazing, but again, there is more than one way to skin a cat and seduction skills don’t have to be technical so much as energetic, at least in my experience. If you have a sub that will make me the offroad vehical I’ll definitely try that. Let me drive wherever I want. I don’t do well following the beaten path.

It’s funny I’ve been thinking about that recently too. I remember it very well so I know exactly what you’re referring too. The “hate energy” I call it. Over the years, I seem to have lost it or maybe I just got tired being hateful all the time. Your theory is sound I think. Definitely a means to place one at a higher value. I have said this before and I’ll say it again: I have never gotten such powerful signs of full attraction with women as I have when I was in my most hateful and “dark side” mode. Which seems silly to me because I was a virgin back then and never had sex, but even now having sex with women, they don’t treat me the way those girls did back then. They don’t treat me bad, but they don’t treat me like a rockstar either. Back then whenever I got into that state I felt like those women were at my personal disposal.

But then, I never slept with them. So there’s obviously a disconnect and I have made progress, but sometimes I wonder if all I needed was to know how to be direct like I am nowadays with that same energy. Anyhow, I’m rambling, but you make such good insights it stirs up my theories. Thank you.

I’m not sure what the benefit of those programs would be. I’m happy to help you develop the PS program if that’s why you need my thoughts to be clearer. But right now I’m trying to focus on what would accomplish my result rather than how better to explain my thoughts.

I’m happy to try and be more clear if that’s what you need. And I’m happy to buy programs and see what works and what doesn’t without refunds if they don’t work. I think you know I’m all about the journey and the results. Money is easy enough to make thankfully.

But back to this last bit you posted, have I understood you? Are you suggesting I use those programs to put my theories into more understandable “bits” for you and others? Or are you suggesting using those [programs would help me understand my deep rooted issues more clearly?

I do have a last question: Is it not possible to build a sub that gets results outside the “mainstream” accepted seduction tactics? I feel like on PS it is trying to train me to use pua but I know there are other, perfectly legal, ways to achieve the result. Is the goal of the program to make me a pua or to get the result I want? I’m not saying your sub is about pua, it’s just the best term I could find. Another could be “seducer”. One can sleep with women without being a seducer, for example. I see that in every regular dude walking next to a hot girl when I go out of the house.

Just some thoughts. Thank you for your insight, it’s very appreciated and gave me a lot to bounce ideas off of.

Edit: all that said, it may very well be that the seduction skills that will take my game to the next level are not (or don’t feel like they are) genuine and this causes me to reject those aspects. That’s another theory

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Currently thinking I take the rest of the week off subs and re-assess for next monday. May get another sub but we’ll see. Likely I’ll just downgrade myself to Paragon and Executive and drop PS. If PS is doing what I suspect it’s doing, it’s not aiding my goals.

Ok. Decided to take a break from these subs till next Monday then possibly start a new stack more aligned with me.

Currently thinking Heartsong with some other subs like godlike masculinity and wanted or libertine.
The only thing that has me reserved with heartsong is it sounds like a very monogamous focused sub. Not my thing. Seems all these subs have one or two things keeping me from being onboard 100%

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Saint himself said Heartsong is both for monogamy and Casual.

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