My only issues with Wanted are:
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It has a heavy focus on looks maxing which I already do.
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I’ve read multiple times it has anti porn modules which I’m not ok with
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That’s true. But maybe it will help you maintain your looks. Even more importantly, it does maximize your desirability and mystery which leads to attraction from women.
Just 2 of the benefits of WANTED are:
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“The man who arrests the gazes of women and fills their hearts with thoughts of equal measure sin and curiosity.”
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“Your behavior will become that of the man each woman dreams of in her worst, sweetest nightmares – the one that piqued her interest and kept her heart seized with thoughts of him every waking moment.”
Wouldn’t that result in more matches on dating apps and when you walk around?
Am not sure of this but even if it is true, Subclub won’t force you to be anti-porn. At the most, it just makes you prefer the real thing.
Just throwing some ideas out there.
I already maintain my looks. Can’t do much more than I already do.
Yeah I been reading about PS, Primal, and Wanted. Those points for Wanted are good but Primal and PS also sound good.
I appreciate that. Thing is: I already prefer the real thing. But I don’t want to run a program that will be trying to push me in one direction, however lightly, if I already know it’s not a direction I want to go in. I imagine I’d have the same issues I’m having with PS right now in that my own internal style and “self” will be trying to go a different direction than things are being manifested for me. At least, that seems to be how PS is working rn. It’s manifesting opportunities for seduction but not in my style. More textbook pua if I had to guess. A method I’ve already proven doesn’t work for me.
I need something that will help me increase the potency of my method. Women are attracted to me it is obvious but they need to go through my hoops not set hoops up for me.
That’s the key difference between styles. Mine isn’t a style that flawlessly jumps through hoops. Because even if you are the most masterful and amazing hoop jumper ever, you are still a man jumping through hoops. The paradigm is wrong from the very start.
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Oh okay. Gotcha.
Maybe Primal is more suitable for you then. Not tried Primal myself but I do know that it doesn’t use seduction techniques.
Just reread the last part of the Primal sales page. It does sound like you, me thinks:
- Dominance that comes naturally and is loved by women,
- Charismatic demeanor,
- Extreme nonchalance and enjoyment of everything you do,
- Relaxed optimism and knowing that all is well,
- Ability to have fun and be fun,
- Highly sexual, sensual, sexy, carefree attitude with women,
- Lack of social shaking (mental worry and anxiousness over every detail in the interaction)
- Freedom to be a highly sexual, sensual and sexy man,
- Masterful automatic calibration in social situations,
- Lack of sadness over rejection,
- Ability to be sexual and sensual in a way that is just right,
- Easy kino and verbal escalation,
- The uncanny ability to be physically and mentally completely relaxed at any moment,
- Development of wit and charisma,
- Automatic passing of social testing,
- Social intuition,
- Betterment of social status,
- And more…
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Yes that could be. I wonder if I don’t get results on PS if they would let me swap programs instead of get a refund? I’d much prefer to find something that works than simply get a refund.
Also, just a small note on the “hoops” thing, I’ve had many experiences in the past few years where women do things with me they say they don’t do with anyone because I’m special. So I know it is possible and this is not just a fantasy but based on experiences I’ve had.
Thanks for delving into this with me tho, much appreciated.
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Do PM SaintSovereign and ask. I haven’t done a swap or refund myself so I wouldn’t know how it works. I think he might be ready to do so since he clearly appreciates your journaling here.
Oh I absolutely know what you are talking about. The number of times I have heard women tell me things like “i haven’t done this before” or “i wish my bf/husband was more like you” is pretty numerous. And many times predictable too.
Glad to help, my friend.
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I imagine they wouldn’t simply because it’s effectively using programs for free at that point. I’ll probably just have to keep buying them till I find one that works. Which is unfortunate but what can you do?
Nice, I haven’t gotten “taken” women yet but I’m not opposed. There was/is (I don’t know if they moved or not. I don’t keep tabs on my neighbors) a hot woman living right next to me with her husband. I remember years ago we bumped into each other at the mail box and she said “I haven’t seen you in a while” I forget what I said but obviously nothing happened. Just another example of my inability to make anything out of those kinds of situations/approaches.
I’m gonna try and sleep. It’s 1 am here.
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True. Personally, i don’t do refunds since I prefer to think of it as investing in Subclub. And all the products here give me some benefits.
Am sure you will get there. It’s just a matter of time 
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Yeah thanks, I hope so. I also forgot that I actually have fucked a married woman before.
In other news dreams are strange but vivid. I don’t want this to be a dream journal, only a reality journal, but damn. Some very real images that even now, despite knowing how things are, they still feel real.
Starting my loops right now.
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Ran my loops. PS was fine, but about halfway through Paragon I got a ringing in my ear and a headache. I reduced the volume to as low as it will go. I could barely hear it. It’s crazy because the setting I had it at was only 1 point above the lowest. I don’t understand why that would cause an issue but it did.
Anyhow, after that I got super tired and crashed.
Edit: Post # 250! :o
30 day money back guarantee for all subs so if you don’t get results on PS you can request a refund
Yes I know but it also says they don’t want people abusing that so eventually they ban you from buying the subs. That’s why I think I’ll just have to keep buying till I find one that works good for me
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@SargeMaximus its better you keep it rather then asking for a refund. From what i remember certain shady customers were using this tactic to steal copies. In order to counter this SC implemented the black list.
The Black List has known offenders who are monitored for activity. If they try to cheat SC again i believe they are banned.
Better you are not added to the offenders list or it may create problems later.
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Yes and this is the unfortunate thing. Because if these subs don’t work for me, I’m the one out the money.
Executive seems to work so far.
In other news, spent the night with my fwb. The sex was good but after I came my dick was out of commission. It still is. This is one of the reasons I’m running Paragon tbh. It also seems to be dietary and recent sugar intake may be playing a role.
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You might want to look into taking ZMA and drink plenty of water try to reduce any sweet or refined sugars that you might be taking.
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Way ahead of you buddy. The only sugar I’ve been having lately is from the Gatorade I’ve been drinking for my headaches. Once I buy the zero sugar Gatorade I’ll be fine.
I get zinc from avocados and magnesium from squid every day.
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In talks with another potential fwb. We’ll see how things go. I’m thinking I need to restructure my listening schedule so that I have weekends off. When can I take a week break and how will that affect my results? Anyone know?
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How long have you been listening to this stack @SargeMaximus? It’s advisable to take a week long “washout” of no subs from time to time, which tends to accelerate results since the brain has time to process and execute the messaging in the script.
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I just finished my second week
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Generally a washout is good every 4 to 6 weeks or if you feel burnt out