Emperor is not chase style in the least. If anything it’s the least chasing sub that still hits big for attraction that I’ve experienced. The issue with seduction on Emperor in my experience is it’s direct and simple or don’t bother. Historically I’ve been a guy who capitalizes when there is interest even if it means jumping through hoops and on Emperor I had more interest from woman than I’ve ever had, and couldn’t have given less shit about it. Not saying Emperor will do that necessarily cause that but for me it wasn’t a priority.
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That sounds like my style too: direct, no jumping through hoops, she’s either dtf or gtfo
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Wouldn’t girls test for that kind of character trait? I know they do with me
that’s very Emperor
not sure
my sense is maybe if your meeting them in a social environment with other competing males
and If a girl is testing for that 1 on 1 for that character trait, a guy could have a competency in handling it as a demonstration to just her vs. the reality of another man actually attempting something. These could be different skills in my experience.
I used to absolutely crush it in nightlife where I felt free and uninhibited and dominant, and could have ONS fairly easily but when girls would get to know me after we slept together, I did so many insecure/off things cause I was so insecure about my actual life that nothing went anymore.
people’s dominance can be situational in my experience, of course there are men whose dominance is not situational and that’s obviously better in the long run.
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Yeah that’s what I’m after myself. But just a week or two ago I had a date with a girl who skillfully maneuvered the situation so I felt compelled to give her a ride to a place she was going to after the date. Granted, it was on my way home, but the fact that she never re-engaged contact tells me it was a test I failed. So, I find it hard to believe these kinds of innocent seeming situations would be skillfully navigated by my brother who can’t recognize a blatant one like when he got tooled.
Anyhow, how long have you been on emperor? Do you have a journal? I feel like I need something more than my current stack is providing
Ok i might be wring about love song. You have obviously done your home work.
I use to day game using emperor and was crushing it going direct with girls.
I tried daygame for years, it never worked for me. I do think I have a different personality or whatever than most
A lot of guys who have narcissistic tendencies (not necessarily a bad thing) or just authenticity in that they only say yes when they mean yes and only say no when they mean no. Need zero skill or intelligence to navigate tests. They just just say and do what they want and feel like. I’ve found this is one of those counter intuitive ways smart guys get in their own way thing.
I was at a party talking to this girl and she got a plate of food a drink and she handed me the cup and said do you mind holding this while I eat, I took the cup for a second and then was like ‘I really don’t want to hold this, you can manage’ and handed it back and we both burst into laughter. I wasn’t avoiding a shit test, I just didn’t want to hold her fucking cup.
To me tests are simply seeing if you’ll be congruent to your own authenticity and integrity. If I wanted to hold the cup or give someone a ride and I said no so ‘as not to be used’ - the insecurity and in congruence of that could be read as a failed shit test too.
I blew so many dates with incredible woman cause instead of just covering a drink or meal I made a big deal not to pay or be taken advantage of.
Anyway not saying any of this definitively as truth-just my experience and conclusions
haha yes, been on Emperor solo or in customs for 16 months, it’s called AzrielLight Emperor Q -it’s enormous, and has a lot of just free consciousness writing for my own processing, I’ve also been completely not focused on dating/sex the last year, although I did have a few great situations going on for parts of the journal, so I don’t know how valuable you’ll find it for your own situation.
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In my situation, saying no to her would have been me thinking too much about it. I didn’t have a problem dropping her off on my way home. It’s only after she ghosted that I started analyzing things.
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Starting to feel like these subs are of the “we won’t make you change, but you won’t make progress till you do” variety. We’ll see how things go this week.
Pretty much all my confidence is gone.
My Mom just called me to invite me to her place with my brother for a movie sometime this week. I can’t remember the last time she invited me to a social event let alone when we last hung out.
Sadly my issues with my mother go far and deep. I’ve pretty much accepted how she is but I dont think she has of me.
It oddly seems that my relationship with my mother somehow affects my success with women. My brother who is quite successful is also my moms favorite son.
I maintain that the issues between us are due to unhealthy patterns and mind sets she holds. I have done extensive self development to uncover and deal with my own.
Years ago on different subs, I was more accepted in my family. So I thought this was an interesting development.
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As planned, I ate my regular meals today including beef. I did NOT have my smoothie however. No headaches save for slight barely noticeable ones. It is likely the headaches were caused by something in the smoothie rather than the beef. So, tomorrow I’ll have my smoothie without the watermelon and avocado which I suspect may be causing the headaches.
I also do leg day tomorrow
Yes mother to son relationship does affect your mindset towards women.
I know it from personal experience because, i have the same issues like you with my mom, who has BPD (by my observation , not clinically tested).
While growing up i had faults beliefs about getting love from women , i felt like if my mom doesnt show love to me, maybe it means i am unworthy of it.
maybe you can relate, anyway i slowly started loosing contact with her. maybe there are other ways to strengthen it instead . because she is not a bad person, i’m sure your mom isnt aswell. they just have personal issues they havnt dealt with growing up, probably some traumas buried deep inside.
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Yeah exactly. I know I’m worthy of love and do not try to earn it from women. Just like I never tried to earn it from my mom. I’m very much my own person and imo it’s my moms loss. That’s why when I got into pick up I thought I’d be the next Mystery because so many things pick up advised I’m already a natural at like being independent and not being affected emotionally by women. My only disappointment comes not from being rejected but not achieving my goal
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hey i recognize your name from the sedfast forum.
its crazy to find you here after all these years.
how are things going for you?
are you getting a lot of lays since you started using subs?
are you still in touch with any of the guys from sedfast?
i really miss that forum; no place ever had more legit talented when it comes to attracting women and getting laid.
Oh, a fan! Jk. 
I’m doing good man, how are you?
I did start getting laid after using subs from another company years ago, yes. I only started these subs a little over a month ago.
I’m on another forum now that has a few of the old Sedfast members there. Not really in touch with them but we interact from time to time. As for legit talent, I have to disagree at least in my experience. I didn’t start getting laid till I tossed out all the advice I got from that forum and started doing my own thing.
In other news, just got back from the gym. Not much to report, I was doing slightly higher weights but I felt on my squats at one point that I would have to break form to continue lifting so I counted that as a failed set and simply stopped. I substituted leg presses instead which I was able to do 2 sets of 10 @ 90 lbs! The failure on my squats (2nd set of 30lbs) I believe indicates my core must be weak, since the leg press I could lift significantly more but didn’t engage the core as much. So it’s a process, I’ll do more core this friday. I still have to ease into things as I have atrophied quite a bit from years of not hitting the gym. Still, it feels good to be making what little progress I am.
On the women front my fwb texted me last night apologizing for saturday. I texted her about 45 mins later saying “Oh?” expecting her to elaborate but she didn’t. Can’t tell if she’s playing games or not but not much to do except what I’m always doing which is looking for new girls.
Other than that I used Heartsong and Primal this morning. It doesn’t look like I’ll be knocking doors today. There is a ridiculous amount of smoke in the air from forest fires and I’m not about to walk around in it. Not to mention the heat is supposed to get high today. So looks like I have the next few days off still.
No gym or subs today. One day on, one day off feels like not enough. My mind feels hungry for more sub input but ima leave it where it is rn.
In other news, all my women and dating prospects have vanished. I do think that since trying to incorporate pua I messed with what was working and fucked my self over.
It’s funny because I tried to pick subs that were congruent with my personality but somehow ended up picking PS which is designed to get you to try to be a pua. Totally fucked up.
I can only hope my current stack is closer to the mark. May have to add Libertine to get that sexual attraction from women back which seems to be gone as well. But I’m not a fan of using titles with ultrasonics in them since I can only listen with headphones.
Also watched a great video on YouTube from one of PayPal cofounders. He basically talks about what I’ve been saying about game and pick up all along which is that in order to be massively successful you DONT want to be competing, because then you are limited and you won’t stand out.
I do think some of the paradigms these subs operate on are limiting in that same way.
Far more interesting to women is a completely different man than she has ever encountered rather than a man who simply is the best of the bunch.
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Weather was decent today after all so I ended up knocking doors. $200 in an hour. Not bad. Super easy. Some people did seem testy today. Not sure if it was my aura or just they don’t trust door to door guys. Either way, don’t really care as I made some quick cash. Also added more money to my stock portfolio but have yet to buy anything. I suspect some of my positions may dip further so I’m waiting to buy the full dip, not a daily dip.
In other news, my mom flaked on the movie night we had planned. Not surprised tbh.
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God damn fucking shit! I gotta stop working out on Wednesday. Wednesday is the worst day for me because it’s the only day my landlord lets me use his washer and dryer, which is great because it’s free and I love my landlord, but that little fact puts a time squeeze on EVERYTHING else throughout the day. Add on top of that I needed groceries after working out and when I came home I had to put the groceries away, set up my computer space (I move the laptop from my room to the living room nearly every day. I should just buy another laptop) move the wash into the dryer and start another load, AND make my 2nd breakfast (yes, I eat 2 breakfasts on workout days. My smoothie and my regular breakfast).
All that put me into a very irritable mood because I don’t like being under a crunch. I hate it. Especially when it can be avoided.
SO, I think I’ll make Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday my workout days from now on.
Also, today was back day. I HATE back day. It always seems to take forever. Those workouts are just endless and I didn’t do them all because I’m just returning for the first time to back day after a while off, so easing into things.
I also almost didn’t go I was SO tired this morning. I just slept in and was good to go.
Anyhow, not much to report. There were like 3 girls hovering around me at the gym but they will have to do the approaching. I’m not into it anymore and too focused on my tasks. In fact, as I went into the grocery store there was a cute girl with a short (not mini) skirt who I thought of approaching but was too time crunched as it was and I thought to myself “THIS is exactly why online dating suits me so well. When I’m out and about I don’t have time to chat up girls, and when I do have time I’d rather be looking for girls online than walking around.”
Anyhow, I don’t think this is Recon (In before someone says it) I’ve ALWAYS been annoyed with time crunches like this, and that annoyance is just spotlighting every other little thing that annoys me.
Anyhow, that’s all I got for now.
Edit: Oh yeah and at the store a guy in line ahead of me hesitated to go to the till and looked at me as if expecting me to go first. I motioned for him to go because I’m not a dick.
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Out of nowhere I had a real heart to heart with my brother. Talked about a few things that have been bothering me about how I may have treated him in the past and trying to level with him about myself now and my relationship with my ex and the patterns I have. He, in turn, leveled with me about himself too and it felt like we really got a good understanding that I hoped for.
Definitely a Heartsong thing. It not only hit me as something I had to do but I was able to do it easily and without even thinking about it. Normally I’m afraid how I’ll come across but this was pure soul speaking. Very nice.
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